Title Race

[john316]

They'd be stupid if they did. Won every trophy bar one. Le Tissier was in a relegation battle virtually every season.

[Fredo]

if city beat wigan its looking like we have to play them on a monday after a weekend game

When do they play Wigan - on the same weekend we play ours? If so, then it's par for the course no?

[ChesterDave]

Our game v City is scheduled for FA Cup Semi Final weekend so we will have no game while City play in the cup.

[Fredo]

Our game v City is scheduled for FA Cup Semi Final weekend so we will have no game while City play in the cup.

So that gives us a great opportunity if we're still in it by then!

[ChesterDave]

We should just tell UEFA to do one. As I understand it the rule is supposed to be no top flight matches clashing with CL. There are top fligh games in France and Scotland tonight so once City get knocked out we should just use one of the 1/4 final dates instead of playing Saturday and Monday.

[Fredo]

I think that would be a distraction. Get them while they're down.

[Shaggy]

From RAWK. Interesting...

United and Spurs fans are now doing the sort of thing people on here have been doing the past X years. Looking 5 fixtures down the line and building up these ideas of "well if they only get 2 points from the next 12..." or "if we get 13 from 15...".

Let's get this right kids - statistically we've been closer to the three sides above us than we have the teams 'competing for 4th'. "Oh, but stats don't tell you the whole picture, you can twist them however you want". Well, "the league table doesn't lie" and all that nonsense. We're 6 points ahead of anyone else competing for 4th. That's 6 points with a +32 goal difference on Spurs. That's a three game swing over eleven games. Spurs, the closest challenger for 4th, need us to drop points in 3 more games than them between now and the end of the season. Everton need us to drop points in 3 more games than them between now and the end of the season. Manchester United need us to lose four more games than them. Over the next 11. Not draw. Lose. Do you know how many we've lost this season? 5. Do you know how many league games we've lost since the start of 2013? 8 in 45. I'll go back even further. Since United won at Anfield last season on the 23rd of September 2012, we've lost 10 games. Out of 60 in the league. That's not with Sturridge or Coutinho. That's Rodgers record besides the first 5 games. We aren't an easy team to beat. Haven't been in a long ****ing time. More than long enough to say it's part of the Brendan Rodgers Liverpool DNA, not a streak. We've lost one set of back-to-back fixtures under Rodgers, and they were away to City and Chelsea. But hey, we must be ****ing due a collapse, because that's what piss-pants logic dictates, right?

There is literally ****ing nothing suggesting we're in a race for 4th instead of a title. I'm not even attempting to be an arrogant dickhead about it. It's just the only thing saying that is ****ing cowards logic.

Practically every decent statistical model has us nailed on for top four. Our goal difference (usually a decent indicator) is 2nd best in the league. We're the only team to have kept even remotely within touching distance of City's goalscoring. This Liverpool team had scored more goals after 25 games than any of Arsene Wenger's Arsenal teams had. More than any of Ferguson's league winning teams had. More than any of Chelsea's teams. More than Keegan's Newcastle, more than ****ing London club or Keegan's Newcastle. More than the 87-88 team. We're not lucky to be where we are. We're closer to the top than we are to anyone who thinks they're in a 'race for 4th'. We've been picking up 2 points a game steady enough for long over a year now. With Suarez, without Suarez. With Sturridge, without Sturridge. The only thing that doesn't look 'title contenders' about us is our defensive record. And y'know what? It's roughly in the same ball park as United's and Spurs' ones. Not that it ****ing matters, because no team below us in the league has scored more than our front 3, never mind the rest of the team.

I'll just say this to end:

If the league had started January 1st 2014, we'd be top.

On December 25 2013, we were top.

Here's a ****ing thought for you - maybe we are in a false position. But maybe it's not because we're 'due' to slip up or United or Spurs are ready to pounce and hanging in there. Maybe it's because we were unlucky having the two toughest fixtures in the calender back-to-back, over 3 days, during the most congested period in the calender? Maybe that's it. Because we were top of the league before those two games to the bankrolled pair. We're top of the form league since those two games. Maybe we are in a false position after all...

Or ****ing maybe, just maybe I should be scared of the name of other clubs, or guard against optimism lest I look foolish for actually being bullish about what is one of the best teams in the country, whether you want to measure by form, underlining statistics, the league table, basic common sense gleaned from watching matches or anything else that isn't piss-pants cowards logic because you're scared to fail and think your posts on here matter a jot about what will happen between now and the end of the season.

[captainfog]

I think a draw away to Southampton won't be a bad result to be honest. A win would be immense (I think we will win by the way), but if we draw I hope people on here accept that's still a decent result in a tough away fixture.


They won't though of course, they'll be a mixture of suicidal and apoplectic with rage

I kind of agree, but in the context of league if we want to win it then this is a must win game. If we fall 6 points behind the leaders with 10 games left I think we will have left ourselves just a little bit too much to do in too little time. Got to keep in striking distance and then **** them up when we play them at home.

[dom9]

"I'm not even attempting to be an arrogant dickhead about it“

What a "****ing" bellend.

He has a fair point, but he makes it so aggressively.

[Fredo]

Why the attempt at points scoring though, has he been challenged by United fans? I'd ignore them rather than writing an essay about how we're in a strong position and them not.

And he'll have eggs on his face if we are due a collapse. Better wait when there's 5 games left.

[BigChief]

I've got a certain "Get your league tables out for the lads" thread to revive at Redcafe. The anticipation is killing me.

[ronanm]

"I'm not even attempting to be an arrogant dickhead about it“

What a "****ing" bellend.

He has a fair point, but he makes it so aggressively.

I think Pablo was a little more eloquent with his logic

[EwarWoo]

From RAWK. Interesting...

Love it

Get him in here, we'll kill his spirit

[Liverpel]

Who's having a go then?

http://www.the-mustard.com/predictor.html

By jiminy, we can do it!

Pos. Club Pld GD Pts
1 Liverpool 38 56 85
2 Man City 38 54 83
3 Chelsea 38 39 83
4 Arsenal 38 35 82
5 Tottenham 38 6 67
6 Everton 38 15 66
7 Man Utd 38 10 57
8 Newcastle 38 -2 56
9 Southampton 38 4 52
10 West Ham 38 -2 46
11 Stoke 38 -11 44
12 Sunderland 38 -16 44
13 Hull City 38 -7 40
14 Swansea 38 -8 40
15 C Palace 38 -21 38
16 Aston Villa 38 -16 35
17 West Brom 38 -12 34
18 Norwich 38 -32 34
19 Fulham 38 -41 27
20 Cardiff 38 -51 23

[TheElephantMan]

I don't think anyone believes that it's impossible, because it is possible. I'm sure that nobody currently realistically expects us to win the league. As long as we're up there then without getting too carried away - why the **** not?! We can do it. It would be unbelievable if we did, would love us to win it for Gerrard's sake as much as anything.