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    Which doesn't change the point
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      Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
      Classic myopic fan syndrome. Sturridge is not 'one of the best strikers in the world', even when fully fit, and he's not going to magically save us.
      Whatever you think of his skills he is our best striker and we don't have a like replacement for him, it will make a massive difference having him back.

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        Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
        It's only because Suarez was on another planet that he scored so many goals. He had a great season playing in an attacking team with great movement and pace. He's not going to walk in to this team and change our style completely and bang in a goal an hour.
        So everything that anyone did last season was because Suarez was doing all the creative stuff?

        He was playing in an attacking team with movement and pace? Did all of that come from Suarez? No, it was down to all the forward players. He might not have got the same number of goals without him, but I think he would have been up in the high teens.

        Sterling and Henderson had as much to do with a lot of the attacking play in the second half of the season. Setting up the base and starting the moves.
        *Except Michael, who died.

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          Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
          Whatever you think of his skills he is our best striker and we don't have a like replacement for him, it will make a massive difference having him back.
          I think he's an excellent striker, and obviously our best by a huge margin. There's too much expectation on his return and too much of the explanation of our problems is put on his absence.
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            Sturridge is massive for Liverpool - I'm amazed that you'd underrate him to be honest Kenneth. The stats speak for themselves. He was the second highest goalscorer in the league last season and that wasn't just down to Suarez - he scored winning goals in the first three fixtures whilst Suarez was out - that can't be just down to Suarez, can it?

            He's a superb footballer with everything you want in a striker - pace, power, technique, work ethic, shooting skills, passing range and a he's a brilliant finisher. To say he won't have an impact when he comes back is way more myopic

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              Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
              Which doesn't change the point
              Well yeah, it does actually. You said "It's only because Suarez was on another planet that he scored so many goals." yet Daniel Sturridge has 10 goals in 12 league games that Suarez didn't play so that point is bull****.

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                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                So everything that anyone did last season was because Suarez was doing all the creative stuff?

                He was playing in an attacking team with movement and pace? Did all of that come from Suarez? No, it was down to all the forward players. He might not have got the same number of goals without him, but I think he would have been up in the high teens.

                Sterling and Henderson had as much to do with a lot of the attacking play in the second half of the season. Setting up the base and starting the moves.
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                  Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                  I think he's an excellent striker, and obviously our best by a huge margin. There's too much expectation on his return and too much of the explanation of our problems is put on his absence.
                  Not necessarily on his absence. On the absence of a striker with both good movement and reliable shot on him.

                  No end product.

                  An early goal for confidence changes the texture of the game totally.

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                    Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                    Sturridge is massive for Liverpool - I'm amazed that you'd underrate him to be honest Kenneth. The stats speak for themselves. He was the second highest goalscorer in the league last season and that wasn't just down to Suarez - he scored winning goals in the first three fixtures whilst Suarez was out - that can't be just down to Suarez, can it?

                    He's a superb footballer with everything you want in a striker - pace, power, technique, work ethic, shooting skills, passing range and a he's a brilliant finisher. To say he won't have an impact when he comes back is way more myopic
                    I didn't say he won't have an impact. I'm just not buying that he's going make a night and day difference to our performances.
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                      Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                      I didn't say he won't have an impact. I'm just not buying that he's going make a night and day difference to our performances.
                      Once fit I think he will.

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                        Originally posted by Chris View Post
                        Well yeah, it does actually. You said "It's only because Suarez was on another planet that he scored so many goals." yet Daniel Sturridge has 10 goals in 12 league games that Suarez didn't play so that point is bull****.
                        He scored loads in a team set up to attack with pace and sod the consequences. A set up we employed to get the best out of Luis Suarez. Do you think we'll revert back to that when Sturridge eventually gets back in the team?
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                          He's going to make a big difference - a lot of what they're trying to do will click into place when he's offering educated movement. He'll be knowing the types of runs to make which helps the midfield decide where to pass or predict where to pass to.

                          That knowledge of style and movement that was learned during last season can only have a huge positive impact to both confidence and intuitive thought.

                          Nobody in that team knows anything about Mario and what he is or isn't going to do, much the same as he doesn't have a clue what kind of service or ball is going to be played to him by Coutinho or Sterling.

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                            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                            He scored loads in a team set up to attack with pace and sod the consequences. A set up we employed to get the best out of Luis Suarez. Do you think we'll revert back to that when Sturridge eventually gets back in the team?
                            I hope he reverts back to that system, because not only did it get the best out of Suarez it also got the best out of Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson & Coutinho

                            If he doesnt revert back to that system I dont expect to see much if any improvement in results even with Sturridge in the team
                            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                              Its not necessarily the system though, having the familiarity of Sturridge back, as well as having the confidence in what he's going to do will be huge for everyone behind him. Those players that aren't playing very well haven't become bad players - they're missing a key component. Sturridge will bring a degree of that back.

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                                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                                He scored loads in a team set up to attack with pace and sod the consequences. A set up we employed to get the best out of Luis Suarez. Do you think we'll revert back to that when Sturridge eventually gets back in the team?
                                Who knows, we didn't go hell for leather at the start of last season, infact it was ultra defensive if anything and what happened? Sturridge still scored in every game. He belts goals in regardless of the style, he did it at Bolton, he did it from the right wing under AVB at Chelsea, he's done it here with Suarez, without Suarez, it doesnt matter, he always gets the job done because he's that good.

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