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    #76
    Originally posted by Alex View Post
    Ok right.

    So we now have Lovren, Lallana and probably Monero. All of which will improve our first 11. So who out of the other 8 starters do you want to change? Henderson, Sterling, Sakho, Sturridge, Coutinho?

    Markovic looks like he might take a season, or he might hit the ground running. Same with Emre Can.

    I really only see Lambert as a hit/miss signing at the moment. It all depends on how he does. But come on, he was a £4m signing. Most clubs will throw that at a player just to sign for them nowadays. Its nothing in modern football.
    You've named 3 players there, one of which isn't even here. Is Lovren really an improvement over Skrtel, Agger or Sakho? Its an addition, sure, so it adds more depth to the squad, but I'm specifically talking about improving the starting 11. Lallana will improve us, but then its considerably offset by the loss of Suarez. Monero isn't here yet and even so, he's a prospect too.

    With regards to Markovic and Can, you've only confirmed the point I was making there. £85m or so at the moment, and we've not improved the starting 11, which is potentially a balls up of biblical proportions.
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      #77
      Originally posted by Redspin View Post
      I really don't know where to start in responding to this twaddle, so I won't bother
      Why reply at all then?
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        #78
        Originally posted by tanner View Post
        You've named 3 players there, one of which isn't even here. Is Lovren really an improvement over Skrtel, Agger or Sakho? Its an addition, sure, so it adds more depth to the squad, but I'm specifically talking about improving the starting 11. Lallana will improve us, but then its considerably offset by the loss of Suarez. Monero isn't here yet and even so, he's a prospect too.

        With regards to Markovic and Can, you've only confirmed the point I was making there. £85m or so at the moment, and we've not improved the starting 11, which is potentially a balls up of biblical proportions.
        Lallana will improve us, your right.

        Like it or not Lovren will create stability for the starting 11. He will start more games than Agger who might well be out the door sooner or later.


        Do you expect every signing we make to be instantly awesome? Because look at the other sides around us. They tend to make one or two additions a year to improve the squad. Then a few others who will grow into potential players.

        Who have we brought that looks like they could go balls up?
        *Except Michael, who died.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Alex View Post
          Lallana will improve us, your right.

          Like it or not Lovren will create stability for the starting 11. He will start more games than Agger who might well be out the door sooner or later.


          Do you expect every signing we make to be instantly awesome? Because look at the other sides around us. They tend to make one or two additions a year to improve the squad. Then a few others who will grow into potential players.

          Who have we brought that looks like they could go balls up?
          As I've said, we've improved the squad but weakened the starting 11. One or two established world class players and some young prospects are what I'd expect to see from £100m spending spree. You may disagree, but I'm not going to keep going over this.
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            #80
            Originally posted by tanner View Post
            You've named 3 players there, one of which isn't even here. Is Lovren really an improvement over Skrtel, Agger or Sakho? Its an addition, sure, so it adds more depth to the squad, but I'm specifically talking about improving the starting 11. Lallana will improve us, but then its considerably offset by the loss of Suarez. Monero isn't here yet and even so, he's a prospect too.

            With regards to Markovic and Can, you've only confirmed the point I was making there. £85m or so at the moment, and we've not improved the starting 11, which is potentially a balls up of biblical proportions.
            Originally posted by tanner View Post
            As I've said, we've improved the squad but weakened the starting 11. One or two established world class players and some young prospects are what I'd expect to see from £100m spending spree. You may disagree, but I'm not going to keep going over this.
            Which one is it?
            *Except Michael, who died.

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              #81
              Of course our starting XI is weakened. We just lost Luis Suarez, the best forward on the bloody planet IMO so it's natural that we're going to feel that. Hopefully the team steps us a bit and we can improve depth and other positions but overall we'll be that bit weaker. I'm happy with the players we've signed abut we need a striker badly, I'm not going to panic yet but I reserve my right to do so later on in the window.
              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                Which one is it?


                I said Lallana would've improved us, but its severely offset as we've lost Suarez...
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                  Of course our starting XI is weakened. We just lost Luis Suarez, the best forward on the bloody planet IMO so it's natural that we're going to feel that. Hopefully the team steps us a bit and we can improve depth and other positions but overall we'll be that bit weaker. I'm happy with the players we've signed abut we need a striker badly, I'm not going to panic yet but I reserve my right to do so later on in the window.


                  I would've expected a couple of established world class players to come in for £100m as I've said, which would bridge the gap from losing Luis. I just think theres a lack of balance in this transfer window, considering how much we've spent.
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                    #84
                    Think we are in about the same place as last year. Suarez going is offset by the defence improving.

                    Suarez is a huge loss, but the manager forging his own back line is a positive.
                    *Except Michael, who died.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Alex View Post
                      Think we are in about the same place as last year. Suarez going is offset by the defence improving.

                      Suarez is a huge loss, but the manager forging his own back line is a positive.
                      I don't think we've improved the back line at all, we've added depth, not improved. Saying that, I'm not a huge fan of Sakho though. Adding Lovren to the back line has not left us in the same place as last year at all.
                      Last edited by tanner; 06-08-14, 02:11 PM.
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                        #86
                        Providing we get a good striker and left back in i'm quite confident we'll get top 4 again.
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                          #87
                          Originally posted by tanner View Post


                          I would've expected a couple of established world class players to come in for £100m as I've said, which would bridge the gap from losing Luis. I just think theres a lack of balance in this transfer window, considering how much we've spent.
                          Even then though there's no guarantee that "established world class players" would make the difference. Look at how many times a Veron or Torres has turned out to be completely useless for the team they joined.

                          Not sticking up for us having not signed any big names mind because I do think that we need to sign up a striker that is proven to be able to do the business. But having said that, I think I'd be walking around with a pretty smug grin if we signed a total unknown who proved to be a world beater
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                            #88
                            I think we had no choice now, we had to increase the depth and competition for places, we are competing on four fronts this season, five if you count the ICC like United

                            If things go well we could be in a envious position next summer with a good squad and an excellent base to build on and then we can allow ourselves the marquee signings.
                            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Chris View Post
                              We'll probably go down unless Sturridge plays 38 games.
                              Looking quite prophetic really.
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                                #90
                                Top 8 I reckon.

                                I think this season is going to be a difficult one as Brendan is having to rebuild a pretty short lived team that was based all around the amazingness of Luis Suarez and then of course, you add that Daniel Sturridge hasn't been available.

                                Can't be arsed with all this sack Rodgers shouting that has started because its a difficult period, it was always going to be hard after Suarez left, as it would be for any team coping with losing someone who is at that level of brilliance - losing Sturridge has only exacerbated that - its ****ing ****.

                                That said though, on the other side there is the shouting about the transfer dealings. Its still early, and there is something to be said for reserving judgement whilst the new team beds in, but Lovren looks an utter disaster, Markovic's value could have been spent better elsewhere and Balotelli just doesn't seem to fit on any level whatsoever. Lallana looks ok, but he doesn't have enough pace to be truly dynamic.

                                All this is putting a greater strain and reliance on Sterling, who is being bounced about from central to wide and expected to be amazing and creative every time he gets the ball. He's not Messi, he's never going to be at that level.

                                I know there is some defence of Joe Allen, but I just can;t see it. He seemed to gain value when he was injured and was held up as being some kind of answer to the early season troubles - it felt like grasping at the time and looks exactly like that every time he starts. I don't think its any coincidence that Liverpool are flat, lifeless and lacking in dynamics when he starts - bring him on as an option to retain possession when a game is tight and the sting needs to be taken out of the game. He seems a squad option, not an important first teamer - he's just too small, one dimensional, weak and easily bullied.

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