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    #16
    Originally posted by Muddled View Post
    Klopp will be heading over to Real Madrid and Ancelotti will go to Manchester City. Benitez will stay in Italy leaving only De Boer who might fancy a new challenge. Is that really a step up? I think the manager-merry-go-round that will take place this summer has made the grass look greener on the other side.


    Indeed, Rafa would fancy coming back but he's a divisive character to say the least and he's certainly not overly loved by Ayre it would seem, not sure FSG would take the risk with him tbh.

    De Boer I've no idea if he'd be a step up on Rodgers or not he could come in and moves us forwards or he could bomb, he's certainly no shoe in to be a step up on Rodgers.

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      #17
      It was a 3 year plan cos he got a 3 year contract. He got ahead of his plan and got it extended but now he's going backwards. The performances have been listless and the recruitment pathetic. He'll be under pressure very quickly next season if he's not off to a flyer. Changing mid season is worse than doing it now if there's any doubt. Maybe Rafa will hold off on a job until he see's what happens if we continue with Rodgers.

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        #18
        Originally posted by G View Post
        It was a 3 year plan cos he got a 3 year contract. He got ahead of his plan and got it extended but now he's going backwards. The performances have been listless and the recruitment pathetic. He'll be under pressure very quickly next season if he's not off to a flyer. Changing mid season is worse than doing it now if there's any doubt.
        Yeah, I'd agree with the latter. His position could become untenable very quickly and any poor performance will be jumped on, adding more fuel to the fire.

        His second year was a vast improvement on his first with this third year being slightly better than his first. Whilst there has been a backwards step, it has not been two steps and we have improved since Rodgers first came in.

        Rodgers failed in the summer. Quite majestically. Whether you want to pin the blame on Rodgers or pin the blame on our recruitment team, Liverpool got it wrong. If we can get it right off the pitch this summer, I think Rodgers will get it right on the pitch.

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          #19
          No he doesn't.

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            #20
            He doesn't really deserve another season but I'm curious what the team will be like when (if?) we get a couple of decent strikers in.

            I'd be surprised if next season isn't Rodgers last here though.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Muddled View Post
              Yeah, I'd agree with the latter. His position could become untenable very quickly and any poor performance will be jumped on, adding more fuel to the fire.

              His second year was a vast improvement on his first with this third year being slightly better than his first. Whilst there has been a backwards step, it has not been two steps and we have improved since Rodgers first came in.

              Rodgers failed in the summer. Quite majestically. Whether you want to pin the blame on Rodgers or pin the blame on our recruitment team, Liverpool got it wrong. If we can get it right off the pitch this summer, I think Rodgers will get it right on the pitch.
              The problem is there's nothing to suggest we'll get it right off the pitch. The window when Sturridge and Phil came in is the only unqualified successful one under this arrangement and it was 2 years ago. Not all on him but he's part of it and gets the final say according to himself. If we can get that structure fixed and he's willing to work under it then fair enough but something has to change this summer and not just new players brought in.

              The fact we are somehow still 5th without having had a striker of note all season is grounds for hope.

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                #22
                Poor transfer record, baffling team selection/subs, can't organize a defence, tactically naive, can't win the big matches, etc...

                I'm sorry, but it's clear to me that last season was down to having the best player in the world on great form and a healthy Sturridge in our side. The manager had little to do with it, imo. In fact, I would guess that if had a truly good manager last season, we would have walked the title. Time to go.

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                  #23
                  Nah, want rid. Soz.
                  3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                    #24
                    No. The team has badly regressed since last season.

                    Since then we've lost our best player and also we're losing our talismanic captain.

                    Aside from the good run post January the teams performances this season are best described as listless.

                    On the evidence of the last three seasons with Rodgers in charge its looking more than likely that Rodgers got lucky and caught lightening in a bottle with Suarez last season

                    Rodgers (and the committee) have spent a lot of money on sub-standard ****e. Players who aren't 'Liverpool quality'

                    I wouldn't have any issues with him going in the summer.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
                      No. The team has badly regressed since last season.

                      Since then we've lost our best player and also we're losing our talismanic captain.

                      Aside from the good run post January the teams performances this season are best described as listless.

                      On the evidence of the last three seasons with Rodgers in charge its looking more than likely that Rodgers got lucky and caught lightening in a bottle with Suarez last season

                      Rodgers (and the committee) have spent a lot of money on sub-standard ****e. Players who aren't 'Liverpool quality'

                      I wouldn't have any issues with him going in the summer.
                      Nah, Suarez was brilliant, so were Sturridge, Coutinho, Sterling, Henderson, Gerrard etc...

                      As an attacking force we were bloody fantastic, and it wasn't simply just down to Suarez, there were a few others that contributed too.
                      Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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                        #26
                        Definitely deserves another season. We need stability.

                        He deserves another season of working with the likes of Can, Markovic and Moreno (young players usually take at leat a year to settle into a new club). A fit Sakho, Sturridge and Lucas would also make us a much better side. Gerrard going is (imo) a blessing in disguise (is that a saying?). I also hope Sterling goes (disruptive, disrespectful and stupid)

                        Rodgers isn't immune from criticism. Some of his signings have been poor and some of his comments to the press are cringeworthy. But his football, on times, is excellent and he is trying to build something for the long term.
                        Last edited by Rigadon; 17-05-15, 06:49 PM.
                        Another MASSIVE game

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                          #27
                          Undecided.

                          I don't think he *deserves* to be sacked. Not yet. Just got enough credit in the bank and I think he's a thoughtful and progressive coach.

                          But, as ever, if there's someone better available I'd like us to at least talk to whoever that candidate might be.

                          It's a very difficult one. Gauging it from social media, forums, fans I've spoken to etc...it seems the tide has really turned.
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                            #28
                            For me, it depends on who the replacement would be.

                            We need some sort of footballing winner who is a leader at the club, because the lack of them is alarming. As I've said before, they're all infants.

                            There's no point with us trying to model Arsenal, because they have a legend in Wenger for all the inexperienced folk to look to for guidance. The Dortmund model is different too, because they went from a real high in 2002, to then flirting with relegation and lower than mid-table finishes. Their model of cheap talent and bringing in a promising rookie manager was suitable for their situation.

                            We've been around the European places for ages, and yet we've become a club where everyone, from the owners, boardroom, manager, and players are infants. The most experienced football winners at the club are Kenny Dalglish and and Ian Rush!

                            We've basically become an apprenticeship football club, and that angers me.

                            Rodgers is a progressive coach, but at times, his constant chopping and changing are the equivalent of footballing quantum mechanics. It's too much. Furthermore, does he know how to build a team? Ideally, he'd have spent a few more years at Swansea to really sharpen his skills at managing in the top end of the game, ironing out the flaws, but he's at Liverpool Football Club.

                            I think Rodgers will come out as a top coach, but will the pressures of the club tire him to the point where it affects his and our development, and he needs to leave. Trying to be too clever with certain things, or developing too many players added with the expectations of the club?

                            Furthermore, I don't know what we're trying to achieve. Last season as a reference point was fast, energetic football. This season, it's been the opposite, and recruitment has been awful tool. Rodgers doesn't inspire me anymore. He's boring, and I don't really care what he has to say, because now I think of him as a wannabe, applying all sorts of theoretical concepts, hoping for them to work, rather than someone who has been there, done that, and bought the t-shirt. Young players need a charismatic leader, or someone who has the background to support their work.

                            He stays, unless there is a better manager who wants the job. Yet I have no confidence that the club would even ask the likes of Klopp about the job. I don't know many fans who are even excited about next season, or seem genuinely optimistic. What does that say about where we are?

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                              #29
                              I don't really care about what brendan deserves, it's about what is best for the club. If we can get a manager with experience, and particularly experience of winning trophies then we should.
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                                I don't really care about what brendan deserves, it's about what is best for the club. If we can get a manager with experience, and particularly experience of winning trophies then we should.

                                And if he does stay he should be ****ing gagged.
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