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    #91
    Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
    I got a load of abuse for saying something much milder than that the other day.
    You said he had no support.

    Please accept my apologies anyhow as my response to you was less than constructive. I had a raging hangover and was in a mood.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Norbs View Post
      You're not allowed to waiver seeing that you've criticised others for doing so in the past. You have to see it through to the end I'm afraid
      I'm close to wavering I'm afraid. He needs to turn this around very soon though. He did it last year for 20 games.
      Are we winning?

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        #93
        Match wise. I can't bring myself to discuss what I just saw. Moreno and Ings were the only positives.

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          #94
          Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
          You said he had no support.

          Please accept my apologies anyhow as my response to you was less than constructive. I had a raging hangover and was in a mood.
          Amongst people I know he hasn't.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
            Lovren's problem is his decision making. He panics and doesn't help himself.

            We were too predictable today and I don't think Rodgers will turn this around.
            I think he's positionally poor as well as not doing the basics when isolated

            I keep saying it but every time he steps out the width of the penalty box he's likely to **** up because he always wants to jockey
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              #96
              Defensive mistakes.

              Always the excuse rolled out. Do people not think that after 3 years years we shouldn't be making them and the new players bought should be less prone to them? Moreno made loads last season as did Lovren. He's made a few now this season and finally we've been punished. I'll forgive Gomez cos hes young.

              Defensive mistakes is a managerial cop out. He trains them, he coaches them, he buys them. You can get away with them when you have an attack that works but we've been clueless in that regard too for over a year and that looks like continuing.

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                #97
                atmosphere was absolutely poison never heard so much aggression at a player than lovren after that goal, even felt sorry for him

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Chris View Post
                  Does he ****, he has his own mad issues but backing off isnt one of them. You were berating him for jumping in all the time the other day, make your mind up.
                  Here we go again putting words in my mouth

                  The problem with Lovren is he always jockeys

                  Watch the game again first half he backed off a couple of times and Milner slaughtered him for it
                  Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                    #99
                    Losing Suarez, then Sterling, haven't done us any favours. Both were very good at pressing from the front.
                    Are we winning?

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                      Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                      Losing Suarez, then Sterling, haven't done us any favours. Both were very good at pressing from the front.

                      3 years and he still hasn't sorted out the defence or midfield is as big a concern as losing them players
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        It could have been worse, Allen could have played

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                          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                          It wouldn't make any difference they would still make individual mistakes that cost us goals, the second and third goals today happen regardless of who is in front of them, the first possibly different midfielders might have closed it down or got a block in but it's mostly poor defending.

                          The problem is that we have those two in the side we need to have a defensive LB to cover for Lovren so he doesn't get dragged wide. We have one or two midfielders sitting in front to offer protection. That is basically half the team trying to make up for the fact that we have dodgy CBs, meanwhile they still make stupid errors which cost goals and with all that going on defensively we have no creativity or threat going forward. It's a cluster****.
                          united have daly blind playing centreback for them. anyone would fancy going up against him because hes tiny, weak and slow as **** but schniederlin gives them so much protection you cant get at him.

                          having a decent defensive midfielder who can track runners, deal with aerial threats and is very mobile is only going to help them. lucas is decent but he isnt top class by any means.

                          if sakho comes back into the team and moreno goes back to left back i would play joe gomes at defensive modfield and see what he can do. hes got all the attributes and he makes lovren look good.
                          [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                            The defence was shocking all round but it really is worrying that we aren't scoring goals. The balance is all wrong. I thought the midfield was horrendous today and is our biggest problem, they did nothing for the back four & did nothing for the front line..totally outplayed. What exactly are they doing? What's the plan? Lucas looked exactly what he is... unfit and lacking match sharpness. Can, well I still think he has a long way to go. Jack of all trades but a master of none. Milner's work rate is very impressive but what is he playing so deep? The balance is all wrong in the middle and has been since the season started, we have too many players that work hard but don't really affect the game enough.

                            Felt sorry for Benteke, horse**** service coming to him. Final ball was atrocious. I think we have the makings of a good team here but I still have that feeling from last season that Rodgers just doesn't know what way to set us up.

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                              At least we have some easy games coming up anyway.

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                                Liverpool 0-3 West Ham
                                West Ham manager Slaven Bilic: "We played good, we started well. We were well organised, and had a plan. The players worked to the plan perfectly. Their movement, concentration and possession was top level.

                                "We parked the bus but we didn't put the handbrake on. It was simply great defending when we didn't have the ball."
                                "I will make the boys feel your support"
                                Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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