Ryan Gravenberch

[Exiled_red]

I think he's bang average but why no minutes today after scoring on Sunday? His confidence must of been higher than normal. His reward? Zero minutes.

The subs were really odd. I thought needing a goal the most attacking subs we could have brought on were Danns, Elliott and Gravenberch, I really expected to see all of them. Only Elliott came on, 3 changes in defence and a DM brought on

[BobTheCharmer]

I think he's bang average but why no minutes today after scoring on Sunday? His confidence must of been higher than normal. His reward? Zero minutes.

[SB]

Plenty of overseas players have taken a season or so to adjust so it can happen.

[DerKrampus]

He needs to adjust to the physicality of the PL - once he's done that he'll be a much better player.

[SB]

Lovely goal from the lad today & an important one at that. Well played son well played.

[Corndog]

He started brightly but he’s 21 and also had injuries this season so inconsistency might be down to that

[rudedog]

It was £34m that we paid. Bayern Munich had got him cheap as he was in the final year of his contract.

I had major concerns about him before he was signed and he hasn’t done too much so far to make me think I was wrong

However, he’s still young and it’s obvious that he has some potential but he needs to be playing regularly to develop. That’s the main problem - Alexis, Szoboszlai, Jones and Eliot are all way ahead of him.

[baitman]

Either way deserves a bit more time imo. Same thinking would have sold Jones to Villa or someone a couple seasons back.

I get what you're saying but as a home grown Jones hasn't cost us anything really.
There were many times it looked like he needed a loan to get more game time and improve but not at the expense of the first team. It may be that squad injuries have meant we had to stick with him and it seems to have eventually paid off well.
To pay 40m for someone who is scared of his own shadow and doesn't have the inner man strength seems like we've bought a dud.

[Fivex]

Either way deserves a bit more time imo. Same thinking would have sold Jones to Villa or someone a couple seasons back.

[baitman]

Signed for bm in june 22 for 18m. Played 25 times.

They then sold him to LFC in sept 23 for 40m.

I dont think bm get rid of classy talent on a whim.

[red g]

Nunez scored loads before he joined us. Looked promising last season because his effort is always flat out 100%. Grav doesn't come off the back of anything good. He's such a ****ing pussy. A new manager will bring in new players, he's very much at risk of being moved on.

I wouldn't mind this being my not good trophy cabinet/acheivements

Ajax

Eredivisie: 2018–19, 2020–21, 2021–22[31]
KNVB Cup: 2018–19, 2020–21[32]
Bayern Munich

Bundesliga: 2022–23[33]
DFL-Supercup: 2022[34]

Netherlands U17

UEFA European Under-17 Championship: 2018[31]
Individual

Ajax Talent of the Future (Abdelhak Nouri Award): 2018[36]
Ajax Talent of the Year (Marco van Basten Award): 2021[37]
Eredivisie Talent of the Year: 2020–21[38]
Johan Cruyff Trophy: 2020–21[39]
Eredivisie Player of the Month: March 2021[40]
Eredivisie Talent of the Month: March 2022[41]
Eredivisie Team of the Month: March 2022[42]

[BobTheCharmer]

Think BG's point regarding Nunez was that Nunez got another season to do better and we are seeing this season the result of getting another season to show what you can do once settled.

Nunez scored loads before he joined us. Looked promising last season because his effort is always flat out 100%. Grav doesn't come off the back of anything good. He's such a ****ing pussy. A new manager will bring in new players, he's very much at risk of being moved on.

[SB]

It's ok SB, we know it takes you a bit longer to twig what is being said to you because of, well you know....your condition.

Ha, my post was open to interpretation so you can't take all the blame. Most, but not all

Yes it was & no I won’t

[BG1973]

Phew, glad to admit I got that wrong

Ha, my post was open to interpretation so you can't take all the blame. Most, but not all

[Doc_Piptorious]

It's ok SB, we know it takes you a bit longer to twig what is being said to you because of, well you know....your condition.