Jarell Quansah

[SB]

I saw their poor result yesterday & apparently they play with a back 3 & he was the right sided of the 3.

[Buzzo]

It would be nice to get a lead in games though and take the pressure off the defence a bit.

Yeah for sure. Though they need to score in the first few mins as things stand

[BG1973]

I don’t think our wingers are responsible for us us conceding 20 goals in 12 league games this season.

It would be nice to get a lead in games though and take the pressure off the defence a bit.

[Exiled_red]

I don’t think our wingers are responsible for us us conceding 20 goals in 12 league games this season.

I think the whole thing is somewhat self perpetuating we aren't winning games because we aren't scoring enough goals and are conceding too many. Strikers are probably thinking if defence can keep a clean sheet we can score the goals to win us the game. Defenders are under pressure to keep a clean sheet because strikers aren't scoring enough.

I've mentioned this before but I have this idea that for a side like use 2-1 is probably the 'par' scoreline, we should be capable of scoring a couple of goals against anyone and probably shouldn't concede more than 1. If you win 3-2 your attack has done better than par and your defence worse, so attack won you the game. If you win 1-0 your defence has out performed par and your attack hasn't etc.If you look at recent games both have underperformed by this metric in 5 of the last 7 PL games

[baitman]

The high line thing would work better if we were back to being pressing monsters, but as we obviously aren't then we need to sit deeper until slot and his arse kisses kick some of these lazy cunts in the bollocks

[Buzzo]

I agree with that also.

But that’s the real worrying issue. The sheer volume of issues.

On here tho, all of the chat is about Salah etc and whilst he should be dropped the real issues are staring us in the face. We cannot defend and the flip side of that is we are always conceding goals therefore we are always chasing games and teams can sit back and absorb and the desperation to succeed as an attacking force increase exponentially. If we can build a solid defensive set up out of possession then we definitively have the players to score goals.

[fidget]

It's definitely tactical but they've got no pace either.
By the time they've cut back to shoot (or occasionally put a cross in) the opposition are set and it's congested.
I think we've got the squad to play far more effective attacking football but in my opinion there's no place for Mo or Gapko in the starting 11.

[Buzzo]

The thing for me is not that the wingers don’t track back because they cba. It’s tactical. Its not junior football,”Mo, Cody why the **** aren’t you tracking back”?

You could fix that in one day.

The point is that the traps and trigger points that are set where we press as a unit aren’t working and then the releases are equally not on when we do. All the underlying stats in our attempts to press are good - we just aren’t turning over the ball.

The idea is that we win the ball back and then have players in advanced areas where we can counter quickly with players in advanced positions. Otherwise we change to a low block.

The issue (or at least one of them) is so clearly tactical.

[Norbs]

They're not helping when the oppostion don't have to worry about a goal threat or them tracking back.

Helps even less that our opponents know they'll cut inside at some point as we have zero threat from a crossed ball.

[fidget]

They're not helping when the oppostion don't have to worry about a goal threat or them tracking back.

[Buzzo]

Yet if our wingers were any good not sure we'd be talking about it.

I don’t think our wingers are responsible for us us conceding 20 goals in 12 league games this season.

[BG1973]

I just think it all opens up potential risk. Risk of a new player who you donÂ’t know not settling, a transfer not working out, an injury. A kid thatÂ’s been through the ranks, knows the club, knows (well does anyone) the systems, knows the players. Why get rid? The biggest wins ever are when one of our own breaks through and Quansah profiles and progression was not far from perfect.

Also, human beings hate massive levels of change and it feels staggering to me that the level of incoming and outgoing players wasnÂ’t identified as a risk through disruption.

I was loving the ambition of the transfer window but weÂ’d just won the League so was concerned by the levels of it. Then throw in Diogo passing and it really is creating a potentially vulnerable environment which is suboptimal on elite sport.

Yet if our wingers were any good not sure we'd be talking about it.

[vlahka]

Now theres a player who undeservedly won the position lotto!

[baitman]

It's ok. Rhys Williams is still with us

Can he play right back.

[Doc_Piptorious]

He seems to be a player who gets affected too easy by his mental state. He was absolutely horrid before we sold him. Whats more a shock is getting rid of a defender who single handed got us back into CL. We could sure use one of those right now!

It's ok. Rhys Williams is still with us