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He seems to be a player who gets affected too easy by his mental state. He was absolutely horrid before we sold him. Whats more a shock is getting rid of a defender who single handed got us back into CL. We could sure use one of those right now!
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I just think it all opens up potential risk. Risk of a new player who you donÂ’t know not settling, a transfer not working out, an injury. A kid thatÂ’s been through the ranks, knows the club, knows (well does anyone) the systems, knows the players. Why get rid? The biggest wins ever are when one of our own breaks through and Quansah profiles and progression was not far from perfect.
Also, human beings hate massive levels of change and it feels staggering to me that the level of incoming and outgoing players wasnÂ’t identified as a risk through disruption.
I was loving the ambition of the transfer window but weÂ’d just won the League so was concerned by the levels of it. Then throw in Diogo passing and it really is creating a potentially vulnerable environment which is suboptimal on elite sport.
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I agree with all of this. Quansah seemed to have loads of potential. And in a team that went on to win the league, it seems bizarre how he wasn't given further opportunities to develop. I suppose I get the plan must have been to get that Italian kid and Guehi. But why we kept Gomez - who Slot clearly doesn't trust or is too injury prone - and not Quansah seems weird.
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We do supposedly have buy back option I have said previously that I wonder if we were effectively considering his move a 2 year loan if stuff worked out and he developed we bring him back.Originally posted by frank the tank View PostWe have a buy back clause though don't we???
They obviously think Leoni is a better prospect. Or at least they did before his injury
They also thought that they were getting Guehi. That is the real **** up
It will be interesting to see what happens with Konate as he has been much worse repeatedly than Quansah was on the opening day of last season, and he needs dropping, but injuries are preventing that.
We all knew that we needed another CB and thought the Guehi deal would go through. Hindsight is 20:20 but Quansah could also have filled in at RB so was someone who gave us options, on top of that he was HG. I guess if Guehi comes in we are saying he is an upgrade at essentially the same price as we got for Quansah
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He basically got castrated on national tv in the first game. Great for the confidenceOriginally posted by Charly View PostI agree. He was very promising for a 21 year old centreback.
VVD was written off at 22.
He had a terrible season last year, but I dont think Slot gave him the best of opportunities.
Id have kept him alog with Neco Williams and Nat Phillips. Players with potential who could fill in at premier league level.
Now we are missing a backup right back and 2 backup centrebacks for the sake of what? £55m for the three.
Hindsight, and all that. But I would have stuck with the "young 'uns" who actually give a ****.
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I agree. He was very promising for a 21 year old centreback.
VVD was written off at 22.
He had a terrible season last year, but I dont think Slot gave him the best of opportunities.
Id have kept him alog with Neco Williams and Nat Phillips. Players with potential who could fill in at premier league level.
Now we are missing a backup right back and 2 backup centrebacks for the sake of what? £55m for the three.
Hindsight, and all that. But I would have stuck with the "young 'uns" who actually give a ****.
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Slot yanked him at HT of the first game and then basically ignored him after and only played him out of position, almost sabotaging him in a way to justify his agenda. Same thing he's done with Chiesa, Morton, Elliott etc.Originally posted by Buzzo View PostI’m genuinely baffled at why we sold Quansah. Particularly with Konates contract situation.
He was not the finished article but he wasn’t far off it either. He’s started strong at Leverkusen and would have had more than one or 2 starts if we’d not sold him. Played the entire game for a Leverkusen team that beat City away at the empty the other night.
Make it make sense?
I hate when we jettison genuine prospects.
Im completely done with Slot now. Never liked him as a person from the start tbh and this typical Dutch pigheadedness and unwillingness to change now is going to cost him.
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There must have been some kind of agreement with Leverkusen that although the deals were separate, it was part of the Wirtz arrangement
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We have a buy back clause though don't we???
They obviously think Leoni is a better prospect. Or at least they did before his injury
They also thought that they were getting Guehi. That is the real **** up
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Slot has surrounded himself with too many arse kisses.Originally posted by Sus View PostI agree 100% with this - I'm also annoyed by the fact that Slot hooked Quansah after 45 minutes (!!) for losing his duels yet Konate loses his duels every week and is a guaranteed starter
Just another example of Slot seemingly having unshakeable opinions on certain players
I think we should get rid of quansah... yeh, too right Boss... (or would it be bosch)
Quansah just needed a bit more time, now he'd be alongside virge every game.
A stupid .mistake.
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I agree 100% with this - I'm also annoyed by the fact that Slot hooked Quansah after 45 minutes (!!) for losing his duels yet Konate loses his duels every week and is a guaranteed starterOriginally posted by Buzzo View PostI’m genuinely baffled at why we sold Quansah. Particularly with Konates contract situation.
He was not the finished article but he wasn’t far off it either. He’s started strong at Leverkusen and would have had more than one or 2 starts if we’d not sold him. Played the entire game for a Leverkusen team that beat City away at the empty the other night.
Make it make sense?
I hate when we jettison genuine prospects.
Just another example of Slot seemingly having unshakeable opinions on certain players
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I’m genuinely baffled at why we sold Quansah. Particularly with Konates contract situation.
He was not the finished article but he wasn’t far off it either. He’s started strong at Leverkusen and would have had more than one or 2 starts if we’d not sold him. Played the entire game for a Leverkusen team that beat City away at the empty the other night.
Make it make sense?
I hate when we jettison genuine prospects.
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I wonder if this is effectively saying the club want you here long term go and have a good couple of seasons regular game time and show us you are worth it...Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View PostNever heard of it myself, but sounds like something that the club has put in place knowing that the player himself wants the option of a (better paid) return.
Normally a buy back clause is only between the two clubs and still requires the player to yay or nay it if that buy back option is triggered.
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Originally posted by peterbread View PostThis is an interesting part in the Joyce article about Leoni
The sales of Sepp van den Berg to Brentford 12 months ago and Jarell Quansah this summer to Bayer Leverkusen (Liverpool have a buy-back clause which also includes a pre-agreed contract should he return), together with the permanent departure of Nat Phillips to West Bromwich Albion, means there is a route into Arne Slot’s plans for Leoni.
Does anyone know if that’s usual. I’ve never heard of that before.
Never heard of it myself, but sounds like something that the club has put in place knowing that the player himself wants the option of a (better paid) return.
Normally a buy back clause is only between the two clubs and still requires the player to yay or nay it if that buy back option is triggered.
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