Jarell Quansah

[peterbread]

This is an interesting part in the Joyce article about Leoni

The sales of Sepp van den Berg to Brentford 12 months ago and Jarell Quansah this summer to Bayer Leverkusen (Liverpool have a buy-back clause which also includes a pre-agreed contract should he return), together with the permanent departure of Nat Phillips to West Bromwich Albion, means there is a route into Arne Slot’s plans for Leoni.

Does anyone know if that’s usual. I’ve never heard of that before.

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[Tatterdemalion]

I can't think of any with youngsters that we have sold, but we have sold very few youngsters that have gone on to do very much.

Different circumstances but I was wondering if Ian Rush's return from Juventus was a result of a buyback clause? Only real possible one I can think of

From memory, no. As I recall they weren't that impressed with him. He had issues with settling in (language - no joke) and the Italian game didn't really suit his style - he really didn't score that many goals for them (9 in the league?). As I recall, Juventus offered him to us. Memory might be deserting me though.

EDIT: I do recall though, that he left us for £3.2m and came back for £2.8m the next season. Huge money in those days.

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Can anyone recall us ever having used it before though to bring someone back?

I can't think of any with youngsters that we have sold, but we have sold very few youngsters that have gone on to do very much.

Different circumstances but I was wondering if Ian Rush's return from Juventus was a result of a buyback clause? Only real possible one I can think of

[Tatterdemalion]

Oh I think it’s a great idea & all but I can’t remember us cashing in on it previously.

I don't think we ever have. But always a first time.

[SB]

Not me, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea. A bit like a sell on fee but a future discount rather than a future premium. Ideal would be negotiating a buyback fee and a sell on fee

Oh I think it’s a great idea & all but I can’t remember us cashing in on it previously.

[Tatterdemalion]

Can anyone recall us ever having used it before though to bring someone back?

Not me, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea. A bit like a sell on fee but a future discount rather than a future premium. Ideal would be negotiating a buyback fee and a sell on fee

[SB]

Buy-backs - they are essentially options on a player's development and I'm glad we're using them. It demonstrates that we believe in the player enough to want to protect our input to their value. It also means that we are essentially using the buying club as a tool to develop 'our' players and no doubt it helps in negotiation to quote a fee plus or minus buyback making the fee inclusive of buyback look more attractive even if it isn't, thus ultimately increasing net income. Personally, I think it's a no brainer for players at Quansah's level.

Can anyone recall us ever having used it before though to bring someone back?

[Tatterdemalion]

Buy-backs - they are essentially options on a player's development and I'm glad we're using them. It demonstrates that we believe in the player enough to want to protect our input to their value. It also means that we are essentially using the buying club as a tool to develop 'our' players and no doubt it helps in negotiation to quote a fee plus or minus buyback making the fee inclusive of buyback look more attractive even if it isn't, thus ultimately increasing net income. Personally, I think it's a no brainer for players at Quansah's level.

[Exiled_red]

Yeah, not the best season last year.

Was a very good one previously.

Needs games. Shame he wont get them here. I reckon he will be a top centre back in a couple.of years.

I wonder how often buy-backs are utilised?

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Madrid have used them a few times Carvajal, Morata, Casemiro, Chelsea used one to bring back Tammy Abraham, PSG to bring back Simons

[Doc_Piptorious]

Yeah, not the best season last year.

Was a very good one previously.

Needs games. Shame he wont get them here. I reckon he will be a top centre back in a couple.of years.

I wonder how often buy-backs are utilised?

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Think Spanish clubs use them a bit.

[Charly]

Yeah, not the best season last year.

Was a very good one previously.

Needs games. Shame he wont get them here. I reckon he will be a top centre back in a couple.of years.

I wonder how often buy-backs are utilised?

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[Tatterdemalion]

Good luck Jarell.

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Jesus, you want them to do their best, not ponder suicide.

[vlahka]

Go off do mint elsewhere and you can come back. Do ****e and you might end up at Everton.

Jesus, you want them to do their best, not ponder suicide.