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    Hence two years. Can't imagine that Ancelotti is incapable of bedding in and coaching new players.
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      Why would we want a stopgap appointment?

      Wouldn’t be helpful in convincing the out of contract players to re committing for a start.
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        Well just for me, because I wanted Xabi above all, I thought a top stop gap would be ideal and then Xabi would arrive. We've got a pretty good team and squad that I imagine surely someone like Ancelotti would keep competitive for 2 years or even a year while we waited. Now I kinda think that while there would probably never be a good time for Klopp to go, this was possibly a bad time in terms of other big teams looking for managers.

        Then again, the next top tier have to come from somewhere so hopefully Amorim will be one of those. Can't generate actual excitement artificially though. It's not like when Klopp was coming in.
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          We need to forget about Alonso. If he comes to us at some point it’s going to be because we’re struggling and have sacked a manager, nobody wants that. And who’s to say what Alonso’s status will be when we are next looking for a manager. I really hope we tie up a manager quickly, cut the speculation and push fans to quickly rally around and support the new guy with optimism. Constant references to the future of Xabi will only undermine the new manager. Ideally, our new guy is ace, stays for ages, meanwhile Alonso goes to Chelsea or City and we can grow to dislike him and put the idea of him coming behind us.
          Last edited by Kenneth; 11-04-24, 10:33 AM.
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            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
            We need to forget about Alonso. If he comes to us at some point it’s going to be because we’re struggling and have sacked a manager, nobody wants that. And who’s to say what Alonso’s status will be when we are next looking for a manager. I really hope we tie up a manager quickly, cut the speculation and push fans to quickly rally around and support the new guy with optimism. Constant references to the future of Xabi will only undermine the new manager. Ideally, our new guy is ace, stays for ages, meanwhile Alonso goes to Chelsea or City and we can grow to dislike him and put the idea of him coming behind us.

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              Ah yeah I get that. The Xabi ship has sailed and he only comes to us in the near future if the new guy ****s up. I was just saying my preference pre-Amorim etc.
              Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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                I'm dreading what happens and that transition with a new guy. Just so accustomed to Klopps incredible personality and the aura he has around him. Going to be interesting.

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                  Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                  I'm dreading what happens and that transition with a new guy. Just so accustomed to Klopps incredible personality and the aura he has around him. Going to be interesting.


                  That for me is the biggest loss we are going to feel.

                  A new guy might well come in and match or even better in time what Klopp brought tactically, but we are going to have to get used to having a manager that is a football manager again rather having a guy whose personality, moral and sheer character transcending the sport more than just a tad.


                  Amorim will be interesting on that front if we get him. He can be a bit of a snide ****house at times. Spikey in the way some of the managers that get slagged off on here are rather than the gruff agression Klopp showed from time to time.


                  More than a few shades of a young Mourinho to Amorim at times, though if he brings a similar level of success to us that version of Mourinho brought after leaving Portugal, I think most will forgive the snide side.


                  Trophies being the fine line that separates supreme self confidence from unwarranted arrogance.


                  To be honest I love people that fully back themselves and that think/know they have the tools/knowledge to win, win and then win some more. So am kind of hoping that, if Amorim comes in, as the months tick away we see an assured self confidence being fed time after time by the results on the pitch.
                  I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


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                    It's impossible to replace Klopp in that respect, he is a great man. I don't know much about this fella, certainly not his personality, clearly there's something about him that interests us. I can't see pool supporters taking to a snide though, although in saying that people will definitely forgive certain things if success is involved.

                    I look at Arteta, a genuine horrible classless snide and seems to have galvanized the Arsenal side in the shape of horrible snides just like him. I would hate that culture at LFC.

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                      It’s funny the difference 12 months can make - this time last year there were plenty of supporters genuinely questioning whether Klopp was on the wane and if we should be looking elsewhere.

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                        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                        It's impossible to replace Klopp in that respect, he is a great man. I don't know much about this fella, certainly not his personality, clearly there's something about him that interests us. I can't see pool supporters taking to a snide though, although in saying that people will definitely forgive certain things if success is involved.

                        I look at Arteta, a genuine horrible classless snide and seems to have galvanized the Arsenal side in the shape of horrible snides just like him. I would hate that culture at LFC.




                        Think sometimes a team needs someone in it that they can look at and say "He's a *******, but he's our *******".

                        Same thing can apply to the guy managing the team if the *******ly acts are aimed outwardly.


                        From what I can gather about Amorim is that he looks after his own publically and tries to foster that "Us against everyone" attitude that Mourinho went in for, but will engage in the making of snide coments toward the media, refs etc.
                        I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


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                          All depends on how the football goes I guess. Well, and it’s loveable rogue, badly and it’s Nigel Pearson levels of cringe.
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                            Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View Post
                            Think sometimes a team needs someone in it that they can look at and say "He's a *******, but he's our *******".

                            Same thing can apply to the guy managing the team if the *******ly acts are aimed outwardly.


                            From what I can gather about Amorim is that he looks after his own publically and tries to foster that "Us against everyone" attitude that Mourinho went in for, but will engage in the making of snide coments toward the media, refs etc.
                            I think you always need a few cunts on any successful team, I have zero issues with that but it's always nice to have the guy in charge there to watch over that and keep things in check. The us vs them attitude is great to build that camaraderie and rapport between players, manager & the fanbase but there's also a fine line where you can turn into a classless, blinded bunch of cunts like Chelsea, City & Newcastle supporters, that are prepared to sacrifice everything else for success. Really though it will come down to whether he wins things or he doesn't. Is he wins, then things will be forgiven or over looked or praised & if he doesn't, it's bye bye.

                            I just think it's going to be a fair bit of chaos next season.
                            Last edited by danperkins; 11-04-24, 12:49 PM.

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                              Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                              I think you always need a few cunts on any successful team, I have zero issues with that but it's always nice to have the guy in charge there to watch over that and keep things in check. The us vs them attitude is great to build that camaraderie and rapport between players, manager & the fanbase but there's also a fine line where you can turn into a classless, blinded bunch of cunts like Chelsea, City & Newcastle supporters, that are prepared to sacrifice everything else for success. Really though it will come down to whether he wins things or he doesn't. Is he wins, then things will be forgiven or over looked or praised & if he doesn't, it's bye bye.

                              I just think it's going to be a fair bit of chaos next season.

                              Think the opposite tbh.


                              The change in personality will be jarring for us as fans, but I suspect the behind the scenes from the training ground right up to the Chief exec positions are all going to be running smooth from day one.


                              Lot of talk about how Edwards is ensuring that for every new face coming in, there are some familiar (to him and those at the club) faces in key roles to make sure that there is no slip up or deviation from how they mean the new era to begin.

                              By all accounts the support networks etc are all very much being put into place now so that even the more mundane things like who greets new players, who arranges accomodation for them, who helps set up bank accounts and whatever is all in place. Much of those who used to do that will be staying in place and any one new is already being trained in.

                              As sad as it will be to see Klopp's final game and final interview as manager, I think there will be a growing excitement to see what comes next and to watch the next chapter unfold.

                              Think the fact this handover is different to what usually happens when a manager leaves is key. The majority of times a footy manager leaves a club it is because he is being fired or is quitting after everything has gone belly up and a club is in a bit of chaos.

                              This time we have everything starting from a position of real strength and solidity on and off the pitch.


                              A new manager walks in, gets handed a top class squad that has a lot of young players in it, has the sort of budget available to him that only a handful of clubs can better, has world class training facilities, has a stadium that will be packed with a loud and loyal fanbase, behind the scene teams of professionals that are at the top of their game and owners that are not quick to pull the trigger when things get a bit tough.


                              We are a dream club for a talented ambitious manager.
                              I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


                              Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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                                Amorin denies an agreement is in place.

                                Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                                Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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