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    #16
    RICHARD DAWSON! That's him. Gee whizz, proper forgot all about him.

    For the record I barely follow County cricket anymore so I've not seen or heard his name since he last wore the England shirt. Can hardly find the time to keep up with County cricket. That and the fact Derbyshire are the worst team ever.

    MAHMOOD STRIKES!
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      #17
      Originally posted by enema of the state
      i may not follow yorkshire but a now a duffer when i see one bowl
      But you've obviously never seen him bowl, save for a few Test matches on unfavourable pitches.
      Have you seen him bowl live on a turning pitch?
      He was instrumental in Yorkshire county championship win, he regularly bowled sides out.
      rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

      Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
      1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
      2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
      5: Crouch

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        #18
        Well it's good to have someone on here to educate me about the finer points of the game. If I'm honest i only really follow cricket in terms of England.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          #19
          Richard Dawson
          Dawson was chosen for England's winter tours of India and New Zealand in 2001-02 tours after helping Yorkshire to the Championship title.

          He collected four wickets on his debut Test at Mohali and featured the following winter in Australia when he deputised for Ashley Giles and batted with considerable bravery against a barrage from Brett Lee.

          He is a good fielder and was picked in England's 30-man pool of players for the 2004 ICC Champions Trophy but missed out on final selection, although he toured UAE and Sri Lanka with England A at the start of 2005.

          Produced several impressive performances the following summer, including a half-century in the three-wicket County Championship win against Worcestershire, and took over the Yorkshire captaincy when Craig White was sidelined with a knee injury.

          The season ended with promotion in the Championship, Dawson playing his part with 430 runs and 27 wickets.

          Was offered a new contract at the end of the 2005 season.

          Richard Dawson

          Key facts
          Full Name: Richard Kevin James Dawson
          Born: August 4, 1980, Doncaster
          County: Yorkshire
          Other Teams: England, England A
          Test Debut: v India, 2001
          Batting Style: Right Hand Bat
          Bowling Style: Right Arm Off Break

          Last edited by G_Man; 17-08-06, 07:21 PM.
          rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

          Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
          1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
          2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
          5: Crouch

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            #20
            Originally posted by G_Man
            But you've obviously never seen him bowl, save for a few Test matches on unfavourable pitches.
            Have you seen him bowl live on a turning pitch?
            He was instrumental in Yorkshire county championship win, he regularly bowled sides out.
            well and good mate but all that matters to me - as someone wholl almost never watch yorkshire ccc - is whether he CAN bowl on unfavourable pitches to good batsmen. dawson couldnt, i think panesar can
            drunk knows best

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              #21
              Originally posted by enema of the state
              well and good mate but all that matters to me - as someone wholl almost never watch yorkshire ccc - is whether he CAN bowl on unfavourable pitches to good batsmen. dawson couldnt, i think panesar can
              How do you know though? You've never seen Panesar bowl down under and Australia 2001/2 were widely lauded as the greatest cricket team EVER.
              rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

              Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
              1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
              2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
              5: Crouch

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                #22
                Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
                RICHARD DAWSON! That's him. Gee whizz, proper forgot all about him.

                For the record I barely follow County cricket anymore so I've not seen or heard his name since he last wore the England shirt. Can hardly find the time to keep up with County cricket. That and the fact Derbyshire are the worst team ever.

                MAHMOOD STRIKES!
                They won their first game at home in 4 years last week
                I live with Steptoe.

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                  #23
                  ****s sake. Trescothick AND Cook have now dropped catches
                  rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

                  Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
                  1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
                  2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
                  5: Crouch

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by G_Man
                    How do you know though? You've never seen Panesar bowl down under and Australia 2001/2 were widely lauded as the greatest cricket team EVER.
                    i dont KNOW (i said i THINK) yet nobody does but he turns the ball much more than dawson did, he turns it the other way - which is an advantage even though australia will probable have a few lefties and most importantly i KNOW he can get good batsmen out starting with tendulkar and recently Younis, inzamam and yusuf on a third day pitch at manchester.

                    monty is a different class to dawson
                    drunk knows best

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by enema of the state
                      i dont KNOW yet nobody does but he turns the ball much more than dawson did, he turns it the others way - which is an advantage even though australia will probable have a few lefties and most importantly i KNOW he can get good batsmen out strting with tendulkar and recently Younis, inzamam and yusuf on a third day pitch at manchester.

                      monty is a different class to dawson

                      Well you can have an opinion but you sound like you're making a statement of fact. The fact is you are not in a position to judge

                      Manchester was a turning pitch, it ALWAYS has been. Have a look at Shane Warne's record at English grounds. You'll find he does quite well there.

                      You think Dawson hasn't got any good batsmen out? Shows what you know about him then
                      rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

                      Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
                      1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
                      2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
                      5: Crouch

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by G_Man
                        Well you can have an opinion but you sound like you're making a statement of fact. The fact is you are not in a position to judge
                        pardon me if my OPINION sounded like a fact

                        i am in a good position - watching cricket actually - to state my opinion and hence to judge
                        drunk knows best

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by G_Man
                          Well you can have an opinion but you sound like you're making a statement of fact. The fact is you are not in a position to judge

                          Manchester was a turning pitch, it ALWAYS has been. Have a look at Shane Warne's record at English grounds. You'll find he does quite well there.

                          You think Dawson hasn't got any good batsmen out? Shows what you know about him then
                          so is brisbane, melbourne and sydney - shaney boys got a fair few wickets there too...how many wickets did dawson get us there?

                          if he was any good, hed still be in the side
                          drunk knows best

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by enema of the state
                            pardon me if my OPINION sounded like a fact

                            i am in a good position - watching cricket actually - to state my opinion and hence to judge
                            You're in a godd position to judge having seen Panesar in what less than half a dozen games and you can compare him to a player you can't even remember.

                            Whatever.

                            Your comment about getting good players out-how about Justin Langer? How about VVS Laxman? You think they can't play spin?
                            rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

                            Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
                            1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
                            2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
                            5: Crouch

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                              #29
                              the old trafford pitch has changed GREATLY since the 1993 and 1997 ashes.

                              now its very fast and bouncy and its been a seamers pitch since the summer of 1999
                              drunk knows best

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by enema of the state
                                so is brisbane, melbourne and sydney - shaney boys got a fair few wickets there too...how many wickets did dawson get us there?

                                if he was any good, hed still be in the side
                                What does this prove?

                                You said you'd seen Monty get wickets at Manchester. My point was any half decent spinner would get wickets at Manchester because it's a turning wicket, always has been.
                                rnm is funny,funny like funny haha.

                                Goals 2006/7 (CS, PL, CL)
                                1: Agger, Bellamy, Fowler, Alonso, Garcia
                                2: Gonzalez, Kuyt, Riise
                                5: Crouch

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