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Buzzo 08-01-19 02:50 PM

Here is a decent summary of his injury and state of mind. I think the problem is basically the lack of mobility in certain positions coupled with the style of game that made him successful which was in basing able to chase almost anything down.

You have to feel for him. But if any sportsman has the attributes to make it work it is Murray. Can he reinvent himself?

Fingers crossed, the tour has been far more boring without him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/46793299

Buzzo 10-01-19 09:09 AM

Tough draw for Andy, who lost 6-1, 4-1 v Novak in a practice match yesterday. Apparently not looking that movie.

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Three-time Grand Slam champion Andy Murray will face Spain's Roberto Bautista Agut in the first round of the Australian Open.

British number one Kyle Edmund, who reached the semi-finals last year, has a difficult draw against Tomas Berdych.

In the women's draw, British number one and 2016 semi-finalist Johanna Konta will play Australian Ajla Tomljanovic.

British number two Heather Watson faces Petra Martic, while Katie Boulter is up against Ekaterina Makarova.


Buzzo 10-01-19 06:25 PM

Outrageous from Dan Evans :haha:


Buzzo 11-01-19 02:12 AM

Not sounding good for Andy :(

Will we ever see his likes again?

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Britain's Andy Murray fears this week's Australian Open could be his last tournament.

The three-time Grand Slam winner, who is struggling to recover from hip surgery, was in tears as he spoke to journalists in Melbourne on Thursday morning.

"I'm not sure I'm able to play through the pain for another four or five months," he said.

"I want to get to Wimbledon and stop but I'm not certain I can do that."

Murray was visibly emotional the morning after his chastening practice match against Novak Djokovic.

Watched by around 2,000 people on the Margaret Court Arena show court at Melbourne Park, Murray was 6-1 4-1 down when the two players called it a day.

The Scot, whose movement was laboured, held serve only once.

In his news conference, Murray conceded: "I'm not feeling good, I've been struggling for a long time.

"I've been in a lot of pain for about 20 months now. I've pretty much done everything I could to try and get my hip feeling better and it hasn't helped loads.

"I'm in a better place than I was six months ago but I'm still in a lot of pain. I can still play to a level, but not a level I have played at."

Murray, who has slipped to 230th in the world rankings, is due to face Spanish 22nd seed Roberto Bautista Agut in the first round in Melbourne.


Buzzo 11-01-19 02:14 AM

:(

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From the moment Andy Murray walked into the news conference at Melbourne Park, you felt a sense that something wasn't quite right.

Asked a simple opening question of 'How are you feeling?', an emotional Murray struggled to get an answer of "not great" out before covering his face with his cap and sobbing underneath.

Murray has often showed his emotion on court but this was different. This was raw emotion in a place where players - and indeed sport stars generally - don't like to show their true feelings in front of the world's media.

A sombre silence filled the room before Murray returned to the room, a little more composed, and managed to tell us more.

The toils of the past four months: going to Philadelphia to work with rehab expert Bill Knowles and realising he still can't reach the required physical level which brought him three Grand Slam titles, plus perhaps the harsh reality of being unable to compete with Novak Djokovic in a practice session here yesterday, have hit Murray.

Despite his fragile state, he still managed to fulfil his media duties and there was even evidence of his dry wit coming out as he was interviewed by television crews after the main news conference.

But a cracking voice was never far away as he discussed the pain in his hip and in his mind as he contemplated his future.

And when his media duties were done, the tears flowed again between him and coach Jamie Delgado as they shared a heartbreaking embrace in a corridor in the media centre corridor.

Buzzo 11-01-19 08:41 AM

Some incredible response to Andy’s news.

:cry:

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Nick Kyrgios on Instagram: "Andy, I know you take me for a joker most of the time, but at least hear me out on this one old friend. You will always be someone that impacted the sport in so many different ways, I know this was never the way you wanted to go out, but hey it was a heck of a ride.

"You took me under your wing as soon as I got on tour, and to this day you have been someone I literally just look forward to seeing. You are one crazy tennis player, miles better than me, but I just want you to know that today isn’t only a sad day for you and your team, it’s a sad day for the sport and for everyone you’ve had an impact on. Which leaves me big fella..

"These are a couple photos, that should make you smile and think, I was actually a little bit of a younger brother to you. Anyways, I just want you to know, and I’m sure you already do, everyone wants you to keep fighting and to keep being you. Good luck at the Australian Open Muzz, I’ll be behind you."

Buzzo 11-01-19 08:49 AM




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British number one Johanna Konta, speaking to PA: "There have been so many examples of when Andy has stood up for us - not just for women's tennis but women in general.

"He has also been blessed with two daughters and I think he's grown up with a really strong female role model with his mum and now his wife is also a strong character so he is surrounded by great, strong women.

"Honestly I can't imagine the sport without him. He has just been there all the time."

Buzzo 11-01-19 09:15 AM

Fucking gutted about this.

At least in team sport the team survives. This is like being told there will not be a Liverpool to support next season.

He’s had a great career in the face of the greatest era in men’s tennis. Before injury struck he reached 3 Slam Finals in 2016 and World Number 1 for 41 weeks until he limped out of Wimbledon 2017.

It felt like it was his time to dominate and then... that’s it. Finished. Must be very tough to take.

Also - what a guy :respect:

He’s the reason I play tennis :(

Buzzo 11-01-19 09:18 AM

This... What a shot to win the Davis Cup.


Buzzo 11-01-19 09:29 AM


Shaggy 11-01-19 11:09 AM

Press conference was hard to watch.

I love him. He's an inspirational bloke.

RichC 11-01-19 11:16 AM

Held his own for a period of time in an era of tennis where we've got 3 of the best to ever play the game.

Real shame it's going to end like this for him but the strain it must take on you to try and keep up with Federer, Djokovic and Nadal is insane.

Also highlights I guess that Federer and Nadal in particular are freaks of nature

Shaggy 11-01-19 11:40 AM

Christ I feel genuinely gutted this morning. :(

labourRed 11-01-19 11:44 AM

Yeah, i welled up at some of the coverage this morning. It's heartbreaking seeing him not see out his wonderful career on his own terms. One of the good guys as well.

Buzzo 11-01-19 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3527480)
Christ I feel genuinely gutted this morning. :(

Me too :(

It's really emotional reading the tributes to his career, and hitting to think that it is pretty much the end for him.

I'll go as far as to say he is my favourite ever sportsperson. Tennis is instantly a worse game without him. In the era of the superstar he felt like a normal guy with incredible talent and desire who was fighting (and holding his own) against alone absolute titans.I

I just hope he makes it to Wimbledon as tries to serve volley his way through the tournament.

Buzzo 11-01-19 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by labourRed (Post 3527481)
Yeah, i welled up at some of the coverage this morning. It's heartbreaking seeing him not see out his wonderful career on his own terms. One of the good guys as well.

Yeah.

Didn't think he's be the first of the big 4 to go :sigh: he was flying before the injury took him.

Becoming of the end of an era.

We will still talk about them in 30/40/50 years...

Pablo 11-01-19 12:22 PM

He's had an amazing career and he can be super proud of himself. It's probably for the best that he quits now though before he gets caught for doping. Same applies to Nadal, Djokovic and probably a few others.

I'm being a tit of course, and I've no proof, but I've always suspected it. No one can be that fit without assistance.

I think this is where the injuries come from too, they've pushed their bodies way beyond what they would normally be capable of.

Shaggy 11-01-19 12:33 PM

This is just perfect, Murray in a nutshell. A brutal rally, amazing winner to finish it and almost single-handedly win it for GB, pure emotion in the celebration, before having the humility and grace to stop and go over to his beaten rival(s). Just amazing.


Buzzo 11-01-19 12:55 PM

[quote=Shaggy;3527491]This is just perfect, Murray in a nutshell. A brutal rally, amazing winner to finish it and almost single-handedly win it for GB, pure emotion in the celebration, before having the humility and grace to stop and go over to his beaten rival(s). Just amazing.


:handshake:

:respect:

Yeah, I love how he extricates himself from the pile up to go and shake hands with the Belgian team. Class.

Im getting emotional watching all these FFS.

This one gets me everytime. The look on Murrays face when he sees the heartbroken Del Potro realise he isn't getting Olympic Gold takes over his own sense of joy. And then the embrace at the net. 2 absolutely phenomenal sportsmen.

What a fucking legend.


Irishnev 11-01-19 02:15 PM

[quote=Buzzo;3527501]
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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3527491)
This is just perfect, Murray in a nutshell. A brutal rally, amazing winner to finish it and almost single-handedly win it for GB, pure emotion in the celebration, before having the humility and grace to stop and go over to his beaten rival(s). Just amazing.

The Last Point for Andy Murray's Incredible Double Olympic Gold | Rio 2016 - YouTube

:handshake:

:respect:

Yeah, I love how he extricates himself from the pile up to go and shake hands with the Belgian team. Class.

Im getting emotional watching all these FFS.

This one gets me everytime. The look on Murrays face when he sees the heartbroken Del Potro realise he isn't getting Olympic Gold takes over his own sense of joy. And then the embrace at the net. 2 absolutely phenomenal sportsmen.

What a fucking legend.

The Last Point for Andy Murray's Incredible Double Olympic Gold | Rio 2016 - YouTube

Small counties like ours dont often get global superstars and the one thing I liked about Murray was that he was able to represent Great Britain whilst being truly Scottish.

We have the McIlroy situation that never seemed to fit as well.

Sorry to see him go but he won grand slams in the time of the 3 of the greatest ever tennis players. In another era he would have dominated the game.

captainfog 14-01-19 10:32 AM

This is sad to watch. Reckon this will be his last match. He's fighting, but his body looks broken.

Buzzo 14-01-19 10:47 AM

:handshake:

Outside chance he might try and bow out at Wimbledon, but I can't imagine he will want to if he isn't going to be competitive.

The end of an era.

Buzzo 14-01-19 10:48 AM

Kyle Edmund lost to Berdych.

Buzzo 14-01-19 11:32 AM

Andy wins the third set, goes ballistic.

Its such a shame, because other than not being able to turn on one hip, he still has all the tools and attributes to be competing at the very top.

captainfog 14-01-19 11:33 AM

Murray wins the 3rd set! Remarkable. Can't see him lasting another 2 sets though, limping in between points.

What a legend!

Buzzo 14-01-19 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by captainfog (Post 3528251)
Murray wins the 3rd set! Remarkable. Can't see him lasting another 2 sets though, limping in between points.

What a legend!

:handshake:

So much Yeah, doubt his hip is looking forward to five sets.

He HAS to keep going to Wimbledon, will be much easier than hard court.

It feels like a fitting venue for him to go out. I reckon he can win a few early rounds there, if he gets a kind draw.

RichC 14-01-19 12:29 PM

into the fifth set it goes.

captainfog 14-01-19 01:18 PM

I shed a little tear at the end there.

Bit awks when he said he would try and make a comeback and then they played a video of a bunch of his fellow pros wishing him a good retirement :haha:

Buzzo 14-01-19 01:21 PM

Likewise :(

Sounds like there is a minuscule chance that he can make a comeback. But has a major operation to take on first.

I reckon he’d have had to pull out of he’d won today after 5 sets.

Buzzo 14-01-19 02:07 PM

It was a bit weird at the end :haha: Obviously the odds are stacked against him but...


Buzzo 21-01-19 06:35 PM

It’s kicked off a bit between Dan Evans and Jamie Murray...!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/46943740

Shaggy 27-01-19 11:55 AM

That was some display from Djokovic. Battered Nadal :rock:

Shaggy 27-01-19 12:08 PM

15 Slams. Anyone think he can catch Federer's 20?

I could see him winning Wimbledon and the US this year, and those two plus Oz again next year. Think he'll go close.

Buzzo 27-01-19 01:28 PM

I think he can.

He is the best player around by a distance right now.

If he can stay fit for the next 3/4 years then he can do it.

Sooo frustrating for Andy - this would be the time for him to challenge and win some slams.

Zapater 27-01-19 01:43 PM

Depends how he goes injury wise. He could get a few gimmies towards the end of his career like Federer got at the start of his. We are going to be somewhat between eras until the Zverev's, Tsitsipas' and Thiem's of the world mature and step up.

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Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3530799)
I think he can.

He is the best player around by a distance right now.

If he can stay fit for the next 3/4 years then he can do it.

Sooo frustrating for Andy - this would be the time for him to challenge and win some slams.

:haha: Murray was (is?) a decent enough player, but even at best wouldn't have gotten near Nadal and Novak the way they played this tournament.

labourRed 27-01-19 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3530791)
15 Slams. Anyone think he can catch Federer's 20?

I could see him winning Wimbledon and the US this year, and those two plus Oz again next year. Think he'll go close.

I think Rafa will still win a few French Opens but good grief he was poor today, even with Djokovic being the best I've seen to date.

Rafa looked like fodder today. A real chance for him to get to GOAT winning everything twice. Maybe that and Djokovic's game were too much pressure.

Buzzo 27-01-19 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapater (Post 3530803)
Depends how he goes injury wise. He could get a few gimmies towards the end of his career like Federer got at the start of his. We are going to be somewhat between eras until the Zverev's, Tsitsipas' and Thiem's of the world mature and step up.



:haha: Murray was (is?) a decent enough player, but even at best wouldn't have gotten near Nadal and Novak the way they played this tournament.

Disagree.

At his best he was a level below them but hed still be challenging. And on occasion would bloody a few noses.

RichC 27-01-19 01:54 PM

Nadal didn’t turn up today, played nowhere near the levels of earlier in the tournament. Djokovic worthy winner today but fuck me that was made easy for him.

Certainly going to be getting close to Federers 20 titles I think, wouldn’t rule out Nadal getting a bit closer as well

Really need to see the younger guys step up soon as the dominance of the top 3 men has now been for a ridiculous period of time.

Buzzo 29-01-19 10:16 AM

I see Andy has gone under the knife this week to have that hip resurfacing op.

So he is obviously hoping that this op gives him another chance at playing. Apparently Bob Bryan had the same op and returned to playing 6 months later.

No guarantees but it would be Andy Murray as fuck to actually be retired by the entire tour before coming back to compete at the top.

Fingers crossed :rock:

Shaggy 29-01-19 10:53 AM

I reckon this is more about improving his quality of life. Bob Bryan was a doubles player wasn't he, and I'm sure Murray was pretty clear that there'd be next to no hope of returning to top level singles after this op. Reckon he might make a swansong at Wimbledon but otherwise we're done.

Buzzo 29-01-19 11:10 AM

I tend to agree that it may be the end of the road, though reports are saying that he will rehab and see how he gets on.

I'd need to look out his exact quote, but this operation was as you say to get rid of pain thus increasing his quality of life, but that he didnt know how it would work in terms of playing, no way he wont look into it. He has apparently been keeping in touch with Bob Bryan who played doubles at the AO this year after having the same op.

The odds are heavily stacked against him, but you never know... Im not giving up hope until he unequivocally says he has retired :haha:

I'd have though almost zero chance of Wimbledon this year though as the recovery is apparently a minimum of 6 months.

RichC 29-01-19 11:18 AM

I'd be shocked if Murray makes it back to anywhere near the top level if he did try to make it back to the tour.

I'd say this surgery is for his long term well being and quality of life. He's been World Number 1, won 3 majors and a double Olympic champion and not forgetting his rather healthy bank balance;unless he felt he could get right back to the top of the game I just don't think he'd risk it

Pablo 29-01-19 11:19 AM

Poor Buzzo. I believe you're in stage 1 of your 7 stages of grief. Denial :D

Buzzo 29-01-19 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 3531056)
Poor Buzzo. I believe you're in stage 1 of your 7 stages of grief. Denial :D

:haha:

:sigh:

:handshake:

Saveloy 06-03-19 02:16 PM

Pain free now, post op.

Says rehab is going well and he's 'doing it for Buzzo'

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ying-prospects

Buzzo 06-03-19 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saveloy (Post 3539472)
Pain free now, post op.

Says rehab is going well and he's 'doing it for Buzzo'

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ying-prospects

:D:D:D:D

:rock::rock::rock::rock:

It amazing what a bit of positive support can achieve.

It would be so amazing to see him back at the top. There must be a chance.

It would be his career as a metaphor of one of his matches if he bounces back from being retired at the Aus Open to compete at the top again.

Buzzo 06-03-19 02:26 PM

That last quote gives you an insight into what he really thinks/hopes.

He was getting to Slam 1/4's on one leg. Anything is possible with 2.

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"I think it is possible to return to singles, but I don't want to say it is highly likely because it hasn't been done before. I can't look at another tennis player and say that guy has done it.

"The surgeons said I can try but couldn't give me any guarantees.

"The thing that gives me hope is that in Australia and in the past 18 months, my hip was in a really bad way and I was still able to compete and win matches against very good players."

"If my hip is better now and with less pain there is a chance I could do it again."


RichC 06-03-19 09:55 PM

The reality is though he wasn’t was he; he wasn’t getting to the second week of slams with his issues certainly on a regular basis.

Can he crack on and challenge to win again ? Maybe but let’s see. He needs to prove to himself at the very least that he can at least compete let alone win.

Buzzo 06-03-19 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC (Post 3539549)
The reality is though he wasn’t was he; he wasn’t getting to the second week of slams with his issues certainly on a regular basis.

Can he crack on and challenge to win again ? Maybe but let’s see. He needs to prove to himself at the very least that he can at least compete let alone win.

:handshake:

I’m talking about the last Wimbledon he played when he limped to the 1/4s (I appreciate that was 2 years ago :sigh: Since he has been rehabbing and coming back he hasn’t been able to play back to back matches.

That said he took Roberto Bautista Agut to 5 sets in his ‘last’ match and Agut went to the 1/4s of the Aus Open.

The big question is fitness. Ability isn’t an issue. It would be amazing if he managed it.

Buzzo 26-03-19 06:40 PM

Nick Kyrgios :haha:

It's a legal serve :handshake:


Shaggy 26-03-19 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3543955)
Nick Kyrgios :haha:

It's a legal serve :handshake:

https://twitter.com/MattHoltTips/sta...76249060700161

:haha::haha::haha:

Shaggy 31-05-19 10:34 PM

Been so immersed in the CL final build up, and I give so much less of a shit now Murray's not around, that I had absolutely no idea that not only has the French Open started - already, wtf?! - but they're into the 4th round already :haha::haha:

captainfog 01-06-19 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3561398)
Been so immersed in the CL final build up, and I give so much less of a shit now Murray's not around, that I had absolutely no idea that not only has the French Open started - already, wtf?! - but they're into the 4th round already :haha::haha:

:handshake:

Buzzo 01-06-19 09:07 AM

I’ve watched a bit.

Jo Khonta having her best tournament in France.

I’ve entered a box League and won my first two matches last weekend :rock:

Buzzo 03-06-19 05:11 PM

Lazarus begins his return :rock:

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Andy Murray is planning to make his return to competitive tennis in the doubles at the Fever-Tree Championships at Queen's Club later this month.

The Briton, 32, has not played since the Australian Open and had a hip resurfacing operation in January.

The former world number one, who has since said he is "pain-free", aims to play alongside Spain's Feliciano Lopez.

The tournament in London will start on Monday, 17 June - two weeks before Wimbledon begins.

BBC tennis correspondent Russell Fuller said: "I don't see this as the start of a doubles career but as a stepping stone.

"He's not ready for singles at all but I think he intends to give it a go later. It is incredibly early days. He's only been back in full training for two weeks.

"It's an obvious way to ease yourself back in, but who knows what will happen from here."

Three-time Grand Slam champion Murray had a hit with Australian Nick Kyrgios at Wimbledon last month and posted a video of him serving on grass on his Instagram account earlier this week.

Murray has said he could play doubles at Wimbledon but effectively ruled out competing in the singles this year.

Former British tennis player Naomi Cavaday says Murray will not want to feel any pressure on his return and that will be reflected in his choice of partner.

"In this particular situation Andy would have asked around the locker room to see who was set," said Cavaday.

"He wouldn't want to play with a serious doubles guy, then there is pressure on the match. He doesn't want pressure on the match, he just wants to play on court.

"So a singles guy who isn't solely focused on doubles means there isn't a huge pressure because that guy isn't trying to make a living."

The Scot had the hip resurfacing operation - which keeps more of the damaged bone than a hip replacement, smoothing the ball down and covering it with a metal cap - in London on 28 January.

Sixteen-time Grand Slam doubles champion Bob Bryan had the same surgery in 2018 and was back playing again, alongside twin brother Mike, five months later.

BBC Sport will have live coverage from the west London club across television, radio and online.

Buzzo 04-06-19 02:21 PM

Konta just obliterated Sloan Stephens 6-1, 6-4 to get to the semis of the French.

Pablo 05-06-19 08:42 AM

Saw Murray related news on BBC Sport. Checked this thread. Saw Buzzo had posted. Chuckled to myself. Left.

Buzzo 05-06-19 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 3563003)
Saw Murray related news on BBC Sport. Checked this thread. Saw Buzzo had posted. Chuckled to myself. Left.

Thanks for your contribution :haha:

I did also post about Jo Konta. She has an amazing chance of a final, and... if she plays like she did yesterday of winning.

Buzzo 12-06-19 01:14 PM

Planning his return to singles late 2019...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48609943

Shaggy 12-06-19 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3564314)
Planning his return to singles late 2019...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48609943

Remember when they retired him in Melbourne :haha:

I really don't think he should bother though. He'll be nowhere near his level. It'll be like watching Ian Rush playing centre midfield on loan at Sheff United in 1998.


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