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Shaggy 06-11-20 09:52 AM

Will never, ever tire of seeing this.


RedReet 06-11-20 10:05 AM

I thought it was gonna be the Robbo vid against City. :D

Irishnev 06-11-20 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3667930)
Will never, ever tire of seeing this.

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldWrap/s...35052014211072

The pass from Ox on the outside of the boot to create that chance was brilliant - he was so good at that time and then Roma :sigh:

foresterbloke 06-11-20 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RedReet (Post 3667933)
I thought it was gonna be the Robbo vid against City. :D


baitman 06-11-20 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by foresterbloke (Post 3667955)

love that fighting spirit :rock:

Shaggy 06-11-20 11:51 AM


Pablo 06-11-20 11:53 AM

Shit. Either way I'm glad he's not off to play for Spain but it does leave me concerned the injury is more troublesome than we thought.

Pablo 06-11-20 12:00 PM

Hmm it looks like he's in the background training here if you look carefully so maybe it's just precautionary:


That is him in the background with the red boots on right?

Buzzo 06-11-20 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3667958)

I think a safety first approach makes sense. I'd rather he missed the City game and internationals and we get him for the rest of the season than rush him back and risk injury over the next 2 weeks.

If we play like we did against Atalanta, City will have their hands full.

Montana 06-11-20 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 3667960)
Hmm it looks like he's in the background training here if you look carefully so maybe it's just precautionary:

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1324647584061923328

That is him in the background with the red boots on right?

It definitely looks like Thiago there in the background

RedReet 06-11-20 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3667962)
I think a safety first approach makes sense. I'd rather he missed the City game and internationals and we get him for the rest of the season than rush him back and risk injury over the next 2 weeks.

If we play like we did against Atalanta, City will have their hands full.

While that's probably the sensible approach and I'd maybe do the same, it's still a bit hard to stomach if he makes his PL return at the same time as that f*cker Richarlson. :grr:

Buzzo 06-11-20 12:40 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb having watched 'inside training' in its entirity and predict that Jota starts and Bobby remains on the bench.

RedReet 06-11-20 12:45 PM

I've predicted that Bobby will start as he's Klopp's go to man for big games, but I guess Jota has the advantage of being harder to prepare against for Guardiola. Even though he might watch videos and study his style, it will still be hard to prepare as Jota could start in any of teh forward 3 positions and frequently change throughout the game. With Firmino, he's knows exactly what he's up against.

I love Bobby and would find it very hard to drop him, but equally it's hard not to get excited by seeing the same front 3 as Atalanta.

Buzzo 06-11-20 01:00 PM

I thinks it’s impossible to not play Jota just now.

The extended clip they showed didn’t feature any of the starting lineup, but did feature Bobby with Shaq, Milner, Williams etc.

Pepe79 06-11-20 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReet (Post 3667970)
I've predicted that Bobby will start as he's Klopp's go to man for big games, but I guess Jota has the advantage of being harder to prepare against for Guardiola. Even though he might watch videos and study his style, it will still be hard to prepare as Jota could start in any of teh forward 3 positions and frequently change throughout the game. With Firmino, he's knows exactly what he's up against.

I love Bobby and would find it very hard to drop him, but equally it's hard not to get excited by seeing the same front 3 as Atalanta.

Pepís known what to expect from Firmino since heís been here, itís rarely ever helped him. Bobby is always great at disrupting them in these games, I donít think theyíve ever really found an answer to him. Apart from when weíve been down to 10 men, or still drunk from celebrating the title :D

RedReet 06-11-20 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe79 (Post 3667972)
Pepís known what to expect from Firmino since heís been here, itís rarely ever helped him. Bobby is always great at disrupting them in these games, I donít think theyíve ever really found an answer to him. Apart from when weíve been down to 10 men, or still drunk from celebrating the title :D

Ha, if we don't win, one set of armchair supporters will have a field day.

Get the 3 points and nobody will care if it's Origi that starts up front.

rudedog 06-11-20 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReet (Post 3667973)
Ha, if we don't win, one set of armchair supporters will have a field day.

Get the 3 points and nobody will care if it's Origi that starts up front.

Apart from Origi maybe :haha:

Shaggy 06-11-20 01:37 PM


Corndog 06-11-20 04:18 PM

If it were up to me, I'd go for this:

----jota-----------Mane-----------Salah
-------Gini------Hendo----Milner
----Robbo--Gomez--Matip----TAA
------------------Alisson---------

Subs:

Adrian,
Phillips,
Firmino,
Shaqiri,
Tsimikas,
Keita,
Jones

frank the tank 06-11-20 04:33 PM

I think I would agree. Not sure if Milner will start though. Huge call in midfield.

If it was Curtis Jones, then that would be huge backing by Jurgen. Perhaps Keita instead ......but not sure we would start with Keita and Matip both back on their first starts after injury in this game.

To have Shaqiri and one of our front 4 (Bobby or Jota) on the bench is great. Options if we need them.

A win here - without Virgil, Fabinho and Thiago - arguably our 3 best outfield players (and if not "best" then perhaps most important) would be fuckin huge for us.

Irishnev 06-11-20 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Corndog (Post 3667987)
If it were up to me, I'd go for this:

----jota-----------Mane-----------Salah
-------Gini------Hendo----Milner
----Robbo--Gomez--Matip----TAA
------------------Alisson---------

Subs:

Adrian,
Phillips,
Firmino,
Shaqiri,
Tsimikas,
Keita,
Jones

Gini, Hendo and Milner is a nightmare midfield IMO. We need our most dynamic players and Milner isnít that anymore - he can give 20 mins at the for Naby hopefully

Rich 06-11-20 04:45 PM

I think my midfield would be Gini - Hendo - Keita.

Buzzo 06-11-20 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 3667994)
I think my midfield would be Gini - Hendo - Keita.

Same :handshake:

spud_gun 06-11-20 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Irishnev (Post 3667990)
Gini, Hendo and Milner is a nightmare midfield IMO. We need our most dynamic players and Milner isnít that anymore - he can give 20 mins at the for Naby hopefully

:handshake:

No way Milner starts. Naby or on Tueday's performance Jones.

Liverpool 06-11-20 05:30 PM

pretty crazy how we've got 700 midfielders and are struggling to fill that third shirt for Sunday. :sigh:

Corndog 06-11-20 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Irishnev (Post 3667990)
Gini, Hendo and Milner is a nightmare midfield IMO. We need our most dynamic players and Milner isnít that anymore - he can give 20 mins at the for Naby hopefully

I wouldn't say it's a nightmare at all, I'm pretty sure that midfield has beaten city before and yes they are all a couple of years older and city have changed since then but they are all exceptionally fit players.

Depends what you mean about dynamic but Ox aside, klopp midfielders have never been about pace in the centre or even agility really, they have always been about controlling the game, pressing ins one situations and being back with discipline in others. They are generally about getting onto he ball and feeding one of the forwards or fullbacks so that they can shine.

Curtis has had a lot of minutes recently and keita is only back from injury.

Milner has been mr dependable since he came to LFC. I think his experience would benefit the team against city.

Irishnev 06-11-20 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Corndog (Post 3668005)
I wouldn't say it's a nightmare at all, I'm pretty sure that midfield has beaten city before and yes they are all a couple of years older and city have changed since then but they are all exceptionally fit players.

Depends what you mean about dynamic but Ox aside, klopp midfielders have never been about pace in the centre or even agility really, they have always been about controlling the game, pressing ins one situations and being back with discipline in others. They are generally about getting onto he ball and feeding one of the forwards or fullbacks so that they can shine.

Curtis has had a lot of minutes recently and keita is only back from injury.

Milner has been mr dependable since he came to LFC. I think his experience would benefit the team against city.

Dynamic means quick, able to cover the ground at pace and be good in transition. Milner is a great guy to have in the squad but his age has been really showing and while he can cover a lot of distance he looks slow which is understandable given his age. If we are ahead and want to see the game out then bring him on but he is not starter quality for me anyone unless we are stuck or rotating and certainly not vs City.

The Milner, Hendo, Gini midfield seemed to be rolled out by Klopp for European away games which we constantly lost. This would be a big leap to start Curtis because he has shown some up and down form in recent games. He was however excellent against Atalanta.

Iíd start Naby who is dynamic - he was part of excellent wins vs Ars and Chelsea. Given him 60 mins and then see the game state before seeing who we bring on.

Corndog 06-11-20 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Irishnev (Post 3668013)
Dynamic means quick, able to cover the ground at pace and be good in transition. Milner is a great guy to have in the squad but his age has been really showing and while he can cover a lot of distance he looks slow which is understandable given his age. If we are ahead and want to see the game out then bring him on but he is not starter quality for me anyone unless we are stuck or rotating and certainly not vs City.

The Milner, Hendo, Gini midfield seemed to be rolled out by Klopp for European away games which we constantly lost. This would be a big leap to start Curtis because he has shown some up and down form in recent games. He was however excellent against Atalanta.

Iíd start Naby who is dynamic - he was part of excellent wins vs Ars and Chelsea. Given him 60 mins and then see the game state before seeing who we bring on.

But none of Klopps CMs bar ox are pacey. naby is incredibly slow....I also wouldn't call curtis jones quick.

They are agile players but they aren't fast. My only concern is I don't think Jones or Keita are strong enough defensively for City.

I thought Keitas form was pretty average before his injury, he seemed a passenger in many games this season.

Irishnev 06-11-20 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Corndog (Post 3668025)
But none of Klopps CMs bar ox are pacey. naby is incredibly slow....I also wouldn't call curtis jones quick.

They are agile players but they aren't fast. My only concern is I don't think Jones or Keita are strong enough defensively for City.

I thought Keitas form was pretty average before his injury, he seemed a passenger in many games this season.

We both want a positive result this weekend - I donít care who we achieve it with but would prefer not to see Milner start. If he does heíll get my full support :handshake:

Iím going to agree to disagree - I suspect Naby will start :D

Corndog 06-11-20 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Irishnev (Post 3668030)
We both want a positive result this weekend - I donít care who we achieve it with but would prefer not to see Milner start. If he does heíll get my full support :handshake:

Iím going to agree to disagree - I suspect Naby will start :D

No worries, I think you're right, keita will likely start

SB 07-11-20 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishnev (Post 3668030)
We both want a positive result this weekend - I donít care who we achieve it with but would prefer not to see Milner start. If he does heíll get my full support :handshake:

Iím going to agree to disagree - I suspect Naby will start :D

:handshake: Naby or Jones for me.

Norbs 07-11-20 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SB (Post 3668055)
:handshake: Naby or Jones for me.

With Henderson to make way? ;)

danperkins 07-11-20 09:20 AM

Shaqiri for me but I think Keita will get the shout.

Rigadon 07-11-20 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RedReet (Post 3667973)
Ha, if we don't win, one set of armchair supporters will have a field day.

Get the 3 points and nobody will care if it's Origi that starts up front.

I'd start Jota but wouldn't complain if Firmino started. Either way, we win, draw and lose as a team. Understand where you are coming from, but really hope there isn't a blame game if we fail to beat City. Best outcome, Jota has a great game and Firmino nets the winner.

Rigadon 07-11-20 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by danperkins (Post 3668061)
Shaqiri for me but I think Keita will get the shout.

Shaqiri has looked good this season. Just not sure if he has the positional discipline/awareness to start in midfield against City. I'd go Keita.

RedReet 07-11-20 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigadon (Post 3668065)
I'd start Jota but wouldn't complain if Firmino started. Either way, we win, draw and lose as a team. Understand where you are coming from, but really hope there isn't a blame game if we fail to beat City. Best outcome, Jota has a great game and Firmino nets the winner.

:handshake:

SB 07-11-20 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Norbs (Post 3668060)
With Henderson to make way? ;)

:haha::haha: Clown :p

Norbs 07-11-20 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SB (Post 3668190)
:haha::haha: Clown :p

:haha:

RedReet 08-11-20 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by foresterbloke (Post 3667458)
https://www.kettlemag.co.uk/wp-conte...B-810x426.jpeg

UK:
Sunday 8th November at 4:30pm
Donate to your local food bank

Australia:
Perth Time: 9th November at 12:30am
QLD Time: 9th November at 2:30am
NSW/VIC: 9th November at 3:30am
Live on Optus Sports

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This is it!

We are top of the league and if we intend to stay there, we need to beat a fairly flat Manchester City. They are still a great side but on the back of our thrashing of Atalanta, we have a fully firing front three and a maybe some key players back for selection such as Thiago and Matip.

I can't help but be overconfident about this one but we certainly won't underestimate them.

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MAN CITY

Table: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/t...ter-city/table

Top scorers (Premier League)

Phil Foden - 2
Raheem Sterling - 2
Nathan Ake - 1
Kevin De Bruyne - 1
Gabriel Jesus - 1
Riyad Mahrez - 1
Kyle Walker - 1


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LIVERPOOL

Table: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/t...iverpool/table

Top scorers (Premier League)

Salah - 7
Mane - 4
Jota - 3
Firmino - 1
Robertson - 1
VVD - 1 :(

Injuries: https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

Just realised, we also played City last year at 4.30pm on Remembrance Sunday. Hopefully the result is the same this year.

danperkins 08-11-20 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rigadon (Post 3668066)
Shaqiri has looked good this season. Just not sure if he has the positional discipline/awareness to start in midfield against City. I'd go Keita.

:handshake: I think that's probably why he hasn't played that much under Klopp when he has been fit. Lovely footballer, capable of things that most of our midfielders cannot do but the graft and the tactical side of it probably isn't his forte.


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