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PTP 17-07-06 10:40 AM

Were do spurs get their Money?
 
Spurs are about to sign Duff

Linkhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/5186380.stm

Rich 17-07-06 10:46 AM

Big, popular London club - it will have some rich financial backers.

IanTheRed 17-07-06 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PTP


Strange isn't it. Levy couldn't find two pennies to run together until last summer...then Arnesen gets tapped up.

Spurs agree something with Chelski, all behind the scenes to save Chelksi's faces and a probable points deduction...and suddenly start splashing the roubles.

I'll guarantee (my Spurs mate also agrees) that Chelski are semi-funding Spurs on the proviso that they don't say anything, in return for a wedge of money, first choice of players they release and first choice on any promising kids Spurs have. Nice little agreement.

Rich 17-07-06 11:44 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, but where is the logic in something like that?

spud_gun 17-07-06 11:57 AM

I was just about to post somthing similar.

There's only a couple of ways that they can have so much money.

The chairman is dipping into his own pocket in order to fund the transfers or the club are lining themselves up to be Leeds Utd mrk2.

They have no money from the champions league, no cups runs to speak of. No 60,000 seater stadium that is full every week.

Strange one.

Oh and i still don't see them getting into the Champions league this season.

PTP 17-07-06 12:02 PM

interesting theory - Cacodemon, i think he means thats spurs have something on chelsea which could cause problems if released, If you remember chelsea tapped up and basically robbed Franc Arnesan(jol's no.2) off spurs, Spurs were pretty fucked off about it and were going to sue - giving the situation chelsea were in with regards tapping up, they were going to get the book thrown at them - all of a sudden it went quiet and spurs were happy

Rich 17-07-06 12:08 PM

I realise that, however most Management/staff 'transfers' are usual a scale of 10 times lower than player transfers. How often do you hear about a club releasing it's manager for

IanTheRed 17-07-06 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PTP
interesting theory - Cacodemon, i think he means thats spurs have something on chelsea which could cause problems if released, If you remember chelsea tapped up and basically robbed Franc Arnesan(jol's no.2) off spurs, Spurs were pretty fucked off about it and were going to sue - giving the situation chelsea were in with regards tapping up, they were going to get the book thrown at them - all of a sudden it went quiet and spurs were happy

Exactly PTP. My Spurs mate believes this to be true...after the Ashley Cole tapping conviction the authorities were ready to throw the book at Chelski and when they tapped up Arnesen it hit the fan. Many meetings later, a spare wedge of roubles and Spurs basically become Chelski's feeder club, benefitting from any spare players (Duff for example) while if Chelski want Lennon, Carrick et al then Spurs will just bend over and be taken.

My Hotspur supporting friend is also fine with this, as long as Spurs become contenders.

IanTheRed 17-07-06 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=Cacodemon]I realise that, however most Management/staff 'transfers' are usual a scale of 10 times lower than player transfers. How often do you hear about a club releasing it's manager for

Rich 17-07-06 12:27 PM

No that's fine, it's interesting to read about people's thoughts on Roman.

I cannot believe that somebody can become that wealthy in such a short space of time by genuine means.

If you read his Bio - there are large areas of misty/foggy information - he just somehow managed to take control of Sibnef (or whatever it is called)

In my opinion, Billions of ordinary Russian peoples money has gone to him, and what does he do, spend it like it's going out of fashion - in London of all places.

The other odd thing about this Duff deal, is that the player only has 1 year left on his deal, i.e. he's free from January onwards. Why would a club shell out their largest transfer fee on a guy entering his final year?

PTP 17-07-06 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cacodemon

The other odd thing about this Duff deal, is that the player only has 1 year left on his deal, i.e. he's free from January onwards. Why would a club shell out their largest transfer fee on a guy entering his final year?

maybe the money won't actually go anywhere?
bit of a conspiracy theory here, but most of what Ian has mentioned could very well be true, I know it would be more complicated than this, but say if Spurs 'pay'

IanTheRed 17-07-06 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cacodemon
No that's fine, it's interesting to read about people's thoughts on Roman.

I cannot believe that somebody can become that wealthy in such a short space of time by genuine means.

If you read his Bio - there are large areas of misty/foggy information - he just somehow managed to take control of Sibnef (or whatever it is called)

In my opinion, Billions of ordinary Russian peoples money has gone to him, and what does he do, spend it like it's going out of fashion - in London of all places.

The other odd thing about this Duff deal, is that the player only has 1 year left on his deal, i.e. he's free from January onwards. Why would a club shell out their largest transfer fee on a guy entering his final year?

Roman (and a lot of his friends) 'alledgely' became suddenly rich when Vladimir Putin took over Russia. He gave them all 'jobs for the boys' and systematically sucked the countries resources dry, taking the money to play with in Western Europe. Gary Kasperov and a few other influential russians have created a new party (2008 or something, to signify the year of the next election) to try and take the country over and re-distribute the wealth.

Regarding Jarosik (and also casually meandering back to football) he was signed from CSKA Sofia, as was Maniche I believe, which is owned by Sibnef. Another case of his money, and his friends money, getting mixed about and cleaned during transfers.

IanTheRed 17-07-06 12:50 PM

[QUOTE=PTP]maybe the money won't actually go anywhere?
bit of a conspiracy theory here, but most of what Ian has mentioned could very well be true, I know it would be more complicated than this, but say if Spurs 'pay'

PTP 17-07-06 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cacodemon
I cannot believe that somebody can become that wealthy in such a short space of time by genuine means.

If you read his Bio - there are large areas of misty/foggy information - he just somehow managed to take control of Sibnef (or whatever it is called)

From what I've read about it all, the russian government issued the people in russia shares/vouchers worth x amount in different private/public sector companies. Most of the russian people had no idea what these were or any idea of their value, appartently the likes of Roman and the other rich russian oil barons etc, who had good business knowledge knew exatcly what they were. They traded items like food, tv's stereos etc and cash for the vouchers until they had obtained so much that they effectivly owned the compaines.

I'm not 100%(maybe 99.9%:D ) certain of the exact details but from what I can remember it's along those lines - does anyone else have a more accurate idea

Rich 17-07-06 12:58 PM

You know what we should do? After KT has been toppled, we could get Insider Insider to look into the dodgy dealings of Roman? Maybe we can topple him too??? :D:D:D

PTP 17-07-06 01:07 PM

haha - i'd offer to help him but unlike Dunk, I'm sure Roman does actually have some underworld charactors who would help him

scarface 18-07-06 12:43 PM

I remember just after roman took over, reading in a paper that stamfford bridge had been broken into and all that was taken was romans personal laptop! all it said was that poliece were looking into it and affter that i heard no more about it! MI5 maybe trying to get some info on him? theres no doubt this man is a crook and totaly using chelsea as a tax loss!


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