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Buzzo 15-05-18 10:14 PM

The World Cup 2018
 
Couldnít decide where to post this so...

Is it really big news that Joe Hart hasnít been selected by England?

Heís so shit he canít even get in the West Ham team FFS.

Tee 15-05-18 11:17 PM

Sweepstake this year?

Leyton388 15-05-18 11:18 PM

What odds on on an Everton world cup win?

Liverpool 15-05-18 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3471988)
Couldnít decide where to post this so...

Is it really big news that Joe Hart hasnít been selected by England?

Heís so shit he canít even get in the West Ham team FFS.

Think he was expected to go along as third choice, kind of camp leader. Fuck all experience in the squad.

Given Milners form, and lack of midfield options. Gareth should have 'got him on the plane' :chunks:

Liverpool 15-05-18 11:44 PM

Talk that TAA hasn't made the squad. The story is written for him pocketing Ronaldo :D

Alex 16-05-18 07:53 AM

Any interest in the World Cup subforum again? I can put stuff together, might need some help or it wont be as comprehensive as normal. But I have a bit of time to do it this week and next.

Kenneth 16-05-18 09:12 AM

Maybe just off pitch and match threads in general football. I can't forsee enough interest to warrant splitting it out in to groups etc as in the past.

dom9 16-05-18 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Liverpool (Post 3472012)
Talk that TAA hasn't made the squad. The story is written for him pocketing Ronaldo :D

That's good for us because he'll get a good rest, but a slightly baffling decision if it transpires.

Pablo 16-05-18 09:18 AM

About to start in a Champions League final and he can't even make the most average England squad in decades. Bit daft really.

Alex 16-05-18 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 3472074)
Maybe just off pitch and match threads in general football. I can't forsee enough interest to warrant splitting it out in to groups etc as in the past.

OK. Maybe wont do as comprehensive as usual then. But a Sub forum for spamming a load of threads in might be useful?

foresterbloke 16-05-18 09:29 AM

He'll get a rest and have a full Klopp preseason.

Buzzo 16-05-18 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 3472083)
OK. Maybe wont do as comprehensive as usual then. But a Sub forum for spamming a load of threads in might be useful?

Sounds like a good idea.

Particularly when it get interesting in the knockouts. Iím sure people will start threads for interesting matches as they crop up.

The_weatherman 16-05-18 09:47 AM

I'd rather he gained the experience of a World Cup.

On a side note to that, 30 days to Argentina - Iceland :rock:

Messi vs. Arnason :rock:

Can't fucking wait :D

red g 16-05-18 02:14 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experi...e9c6ada85d.jpg

red g 16-05-18 02:15 PM

Goalkeepers: Jack Butland, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope.

Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Gary Cahill, Fabian Delph, Phil Jones, Harry Maguire, Danny Rose, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker, Ashley Young.

Midfielders: Dele Alli, Eric Dier, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Ruben Loftus-Cheek.

Forwards: Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Raheem Sterling, Jamie Vardy, Danny Welbeck.

Stand-by: Tom Heaton, James Tarkowski, Lewis Cook, Jake Livemore and Adam Lallana.

Alex 16-05-18 02:25 PM

See ya later Joe Hart :rock:

Chris 16-05-18 02:31 PM

Horrendous squad apart from 2 players. Danny Welbeck must have something on a lot of people in football.

Pablo 16-05-18 02:35 PM

Absolutely shit goalies.

No outstanding defenders. Walker probably the pick of them.

Average midfield group apart from Alli who's had a pretty poor season.

Harry Kane and Sterling are probably the only two who've been on top form all season in attack.

Even the standby list looks really weak.

Has there ever been a worse England squad for a major tournament?

dom9 16-05-18 02:43 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44137979

Quote:

Russia World Cup: Argentina 'flirting manual' panned


The Argentine Football Association (AFA) has been panned for including a chapter about "how to stand a chance with a Russian girl" in a manual it handed to journalists travelling to the World Cup in Russia.

It recommended that journalists "look clean, smell nice and dress well" in order to impress Russian "girls".

It also urged them to treat women as "something of worth".

The advice caused an outcry on social media and the AFA has since removed it.

The controversy comes just months after the Argentine capital, Buenos Aires, saw the biggest women's march in Latin America with protesters decrying rampant sexism and demanding an end to violence against women.

'Don't ask stupid questions about sex'
Argentine journalist Nacho Catullo said he was among the dozens of reporters and football officials attending a free course on Russian language and culture held by the AFA for those travelling to the World Cup in Russia.

He tweeted photos of the chapter which started being shared and mocked on the internet as the course was still going on.

According to Catullo, officials then interrupted the course, collecting the manuals only to return them with the controversial pages torn out.

The advice is divided into eight sections and goes straight to the point.

"Because Russian women are beautiful, many men just want to sleep with them," it suggests high up.

"Maybe they want that too, but they are also persons who want to feel important and unique.

"Don't ask stupid questions about sex. For Russians, sex is something very private and not discussed in public."

'Take the initiative'
It also urges Argentine men to start preparing early: "Russian women like men who take the initiative, if you're not self-confident then you need to start practicing talking to women."

To those Argentine men still doubting themselves it offers encouragement: "Remember that many [Russian women] don't know much about your country, you're new and different, this is your advantage over Russian men."

Finally, it urges men to be choosey and to concentrate on those Russian women with whom they may stand a chance.

"Normally, Russian women care about the important things but of course you'll also find those who just care about material things, money or whether you're handsome, you name it. But don't worry, there are many beautiful women in Russia and not all are for you. Be selective!"

Sources in the AFA told local media that the controversial chapter had been lifted from a blog on the internet. It is not yet clear who decided to include it in the manual.

:jaw:

foresterbloke 16-05-18 02:48 PM

My team would be -


------------------- Pope

Walker --- Jones --- Maguire --- Delph

-------------------- Dier
--- Henderson ---------- Alli

Stirling --------- Kane ------ Rashford

Irishnev 16-05-18 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 3472206)
Absolutely shit goalies.

No outstanding defenders. Walker probably the pick of them.

Average midfield group apart from Alli who's had a pretty poor season.

Harry Kane and Sterling are probably the only two who've been on top form all season in attack.

Even the standby list looks really weak.

Has there ever been a worse England squad for a major tournament?

I wish our 22 year old midfielders has a poor a season as Alli every year :D

Total 17/18: 50 Games 14 Goals 17 Assists

This was over 3790 mins so a goal or assist 122 mins

Context being in 16/17 he had:
50 Games 22 Goals 13 Assists

This was over 4014 mins so a goal or assist 115 mins

red g 16-05-18 03:05 PM

this is the team journalists predicted back in 2014 after the last world cup.
http://d3nfwcxd527z59.cloudfront.net...ngland2018.jpg

Shaggy 16-05-18 03:34 PM

This would be my team I think

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdUZyxuWkAETd8u.jpg

Kenneth 16-05-18 03:37 PM

Yeah, it's shit.

Gray 16-05-18 03:38 PM

It really is a poo squad. So weak in midfield

The_weatherman 16-05-18 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3472226)

This isn't so bad really, Kane, Sterling and Alli are a very good front three, with Vardy and Rashford on the bench, I think this isn't as bad as you guys think.

Depends a bit on how much the manager can coax out of the team.

RichC 16-05-18 04:38 PM

That back 3 and the keeper is muck and very limited in terms of creative quality from midfield.

I'd have taken Shelvey tbh

The_weatherman 16-05-18 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC (Post 3472245)
That back 3 and the keeper is muck and very limited in terms of creative quality from midfield.

I'd have taken Shelvey tbh

There is little creativity granted, and the defence is suspect, and the keeper isn't very good, but aside from that, it's a decent little side :handshake:

bradsdad 16-05-18 05:18 PM

Cant believe he hasnt took Shelvey the way he has been playing

Buzzo 16-05-18 05:26 PM

Fucking hell :haha:

That is a weak England squad.

The tournament on tournament drop in quality is quite dramatic.

The midfield in particular looks really bad. Surely Jonjo should get in ahead of Loftus-Cheek?

Midfielders: Dele Alli, Eric Dier, Jordan Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Ruben Loftus-Cheek. Some of them cant even claim to have had all that amazing seasons (Wellbzzzz, Phil Jones, Rashford, Stones :haha:)

I hope Hendo gets the captaincy gig. If it goes to 'my ball' Kane then England are even more doomed.

Red_Polo 16-05-18 05:44 PM

Top England scorer in the squad is Welbeck, most capped is Cahill :haha:

Deano 17-05-18 08:52 AM

Absolute LOL's at Welbeck being included

Exiled_red 17-05-18 09:11 AM

The midfield looks lacking in numbers only really Henderson, Dier, Alli and Loftus-cheek who are actually midfielders, I guess he could play Delph or TAA there but neither have been playing there all season.

Also what is the need for 6 fullbacks, Ok as mentioned above some could play elsewhere, but surely you pick 2 specialist players for each position and you probably have one or two utility players in there anyway.

To me the squad looks unbalanced it seems like he as picked too many 'Jack of all trades' players. In a way I feel sorry for him because the pool of players is fairly limited and truth be told there is no-one left out who you really feel would make much of a difference. I wonder if this is supposed to be one for the future rather than this world cup because it is fairly young. But I don't imagine any top sides will be having nightmares about facing this side.

Southgate needs to build a team greater than the sum of its parts, there aren't too many stars in there. I guess we just have to see if he can do it.

Deano 17-05-18 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Exiled_red (Post 3472339)
The midfield looks lacking in numbers only really Henderson, Dier, Alli and Loftus-cheek who are actually midfielders, I guess he could play Delph or TAA there but neither have been playing there all season.

Also what is the need for 6 fullbacks, Ok as mentioned above some could play elsewhere, but surely you pick 2 specialist players for each position and you probably have one or two utility players in there anyway.

To me the squad looks unbalanced it seems like he as picked too many 'Jack of all trades' players. In a way I feel sorry for him because the pool of players is fairly limited and truth be told there is no-one left out who you really feel would make much of a difference. I wonder if this is supposed to be one for the future rather than this world cup because it is fairly young. But I don't imagine any top sides will be having nightmares about facing this side.

Southgate needs to build a team greater than the sum of its parts, there aren't too many stars in there. I guess we just have to see if he can do it.

Same old, same old - A few spring to mind that could have made a difference, Shelvey, Ward Prowse, Antonio , Lallana even Redmond.

Red_Polo 17-05-18 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Deano (Post 3472349)
Same old, same old - A few spring to mind that could have made a difference, Shelvey, Ward Prowse, Antonio , Lallana even Redmond.

Most of the players you mention are too shit to be expected to make any difference tbf

Exiled_red 17-05-18 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Deano (Post 3472349)
Same old, same old - A few spring to mind that could have made a difference, Shelvey, Ward Prowse, Antonio , Lallana even Redmond.

I'd maybe have taken Lallana and shelvey at the expense of one or two of the utility fullbacks. Lallana would have been in if he were fit. He is the one player proven at that level that could have improved things. Shelvey is a different type of player which is why I would have considered taking him but swapping him in doesn't have much effect on the overall quality of the squad. To be honest most of the players in contention are uninspiring 'meh' players. I don't think England have a world class player.

Alex 17-05-18 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Polo (Post 3472351)
Most of the players you mention are too shit to be expected to make any difference tbf

:handshake:

Just strikes me as giving some different names for the sake of it.

I think im alone in thinking this might be one of the best England sides in about 10 years (2002 WC being the previous peak probably)

Its more like a club side than its ever been. Less superstars, but I dont think anyone really wants that.

Think we will do well.

RichC 17-05-18 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 3472361)
:handshake:

Just strikes me as giving some different names for the sake of it.

I think im alone in thinking this might be one of the best England sides in about 10 years (2002 WC being the previous peak probably)

Its more like a club side than its ever been. Less superstars, but I dont think anyone really wants that.

Think we will do well.

Blind optimism at it's very best here!

Exiled_red 17-05-18 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 3472361)
:handshake:

Just strikes me as giving some different names for the sake of it.

I think im alone in thinking this might be one of the best England sides in about 10 years (2002 WC being the previous peak probably)

Its more like a club side than its ever been. Less superstars, but I dont think anyone really wants that.

Think we will do well.

I think the one hope is without too many stars and hopefully egos Southgate can make a side which is greater than the sum of its parts by working as a team. That really is the best hope because there is no-one to bail them out with a moment of magic.

Alex 17-05-18 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC (Post 3472365)
Blind optimism at it's very best here!

Is it though?

Stones, Walker, Delph and Sterling all started and played a lot in a Man City team that just broke 100 Premier League points. Henderson we know. Kane and Vardy scored 50 goals between them. Add in Sterling with another 18.

Taking club loyalties aside now, I think there is goals and a good attacking threat in this England team. I worry about the defence though. Id have probably just tried to plonk in the Burnley defence plus one other. :D

Southgate has shown he has got more ideas beyond the normal boring England style of play too. He might not be Pep or Klopp. But at least he isnt Sam Allerdyce.


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