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Sarb 08-05-13 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 2641582)
Loads of em trying to convince themselves Moyes is amazing. I like this one :

I find it so strange that fans still judge managers on what they've won, as if it's too much like hard work to look more closely at the jobs they've done previously. I always feared we'd end up with a Guardiola type, yet most fans always wanted this. I'd feel much happier with a manager like Moyes, who we've seen can really improve players, gets the most out of his squad and is an astute tactician.

:haha::haha::haha::haha:

Shaggy 08-05-13 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 2641582)
Loads of em trying to convince themselves Moyes is amazing. I like this one :

I find it so strange that fans still judge managers on what they've won, as if it's too much like hard work to look more closely at the jobs they've done previously. I always feared we'd end up with a Guardiola type, yet most fans always wanted this. I'd feel much happier with a manager like Moyes, who we've seen can really improve players, gets the most out of his squad and is an astute tactician.

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Pablo 08-05-13 11:59 AM

"astute tactician"? :haha:

Fivex 08-05-13 12:00 PM

Just look at his record against the top dogs. Speaks for itself. :handshake:

dom9 08-05-13 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fivex (Post 2641592)
Just look at his record against the top dogs. Speaks for itself. :handshake:

Well, if you can't beat them, join one.

Pedenj 08-05-13 12:01 PM

Man U fan on Talksport outside Old Trafford is in tears trying to do an interview. Apparently he was sent home from work due to his emotional state.

Fivex 08-05-13 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dom9 (Post 2641594)
Well, if you can't beat them, join one.

:haha: :handshake:

Chazza 08-05-13 12:02 PM

28 year old United fan outside OT in tears just then on the radio.

Pablo 08-05-13 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedenj (Post 2641595)
Man U fan on Talksport outside Old Trafford is in tears trying to do an interview. Apparently he was sent home from work due to his emotional state.

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

BigChief 08-05-13 12:04 PM

Oh dear, what will these 30 year old glory hunting tw*ts do now?

Expect a lot of "Yeah, I used to support Utd when I was into football" comments in a few years. :cheerleader: Goodbye shirt sales. Goodbye big sponsors. Hello David Moyes. :D

Roboklopp 08-05-13 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedenj (Post 2641595)
Man U fan on Talksport outside Old Trafford is in tears trying to do an interview. Apparently he was sent home from work due to his emotional state.

:haha::haha::haha:

spud_gun 08-05-13 12:07 PM

Someone really needs to slap up the David Moyes best manager in the world poster that was doing the rounds on here a few months back.

wiw 08-05-13 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedenj (Post 2641595)
Man U fan on Talksport outside Old Trafford is in tears trying to do an interview. Apparently he was sent home from work due to his emotional state.

Hahahahahaha

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:09 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...40479136_n.jpg

spud_gun 08-05-13 12:10 PM

:haha:

That was quick. Have you got that saved on your desktop :D

Sarb 08-05-13 12:12 PM

On a different note, does someone know if it was true that someone was arrested yesterday for standing outside Gary Neville's house chanting 'Gary Neville, what a w*nker for 4 hours'. Who would do that?

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:12 PM

I posted it on Facebook just minutes ago :D

Pablo 08-05-13 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarb (Post 2641614)
On a different note, does someone know if it was true that someone was arrested yesterday for standing outside Gary Neville's house chanting 'Gary Neville, what a w*nker for 4 hours'. Who would do that?

That was from a parody Twitter account, unfortunately :D

Chazza 08-05-13 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarb (Post 2641614)
On a different note, does someone know if it was true that someone was arrested yesterday for standing outside Gary Neville's house chanting 'Gary Neville, what a w*nker for 4 hours'. Who would do that?

You should have a read back through this thread :handshake:

Tee 08-05-13 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedenj (Post 2641595)
Man U fan on Talksport outside Old Trafford is in tears trying to do an interview. Apparently he was sent home from work due to his emotional state.

:haha::haha::haha:

Sarb 08-05-13 12:15 PM

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Alex Ferguson retires: Everton manager David Moyes has spent a decade as the heir apparent at Old Trafford
Manchester United fans wary of the prospect of David Moyes heading to Old Trafford must, at the very least, be impressed by the Everton manager’s power of foresight and intuition.

Old and new: David Moyes has spent a decade as the heir apparent to Alex Ferguson Photo: EPA By Chris Bascombe
11:53AM BST 08 May 2013

Having coveted the job since he was the manager at Preston North End, it was either a happy coincidence or part of a grander design Moyes finds himself out of contract at Everton and openly seeking a fresh challenge at the very moment Sir Alex Ferguson is dethroning himself.

How fortunate for Moyes to be available just as Ferguson leaves the scene. It is plausible the Everton manager had no inkling this was coming, but given the closeness of their relationship a stretch of the imagination is required to believe that the case.

Moyes has spent a decade as the heir apparent to Ferguson.

One way or another, that status is finally relinquished with the United legend’s retirement. Moyes can be forgiven for anticipating a coronation.

Either he will fulfil a destiny or feel the last 11 years at Goodison, waiting for one of the few clubs he considered a step up, has resulted in the ultimate frustration.

Moyes has been persistently seen as the apprentice in waiting, the prodigy ready to take the reins under the watchful eye of his mentor.

In Moyes’ favour is the lingering presence of Ferguson in the Directors’ Box, which in stark contrast to other leading candidates would be seen as an assistance rather than hindrance. Ferguson’s stated desire to remain in some capacity must help Moyes’ chances as it would merely extend an existing relationship.

Should Moyes move to United, he would be replacing the speed dial on his phone with a quick stroll upstairs. The relationship between the two Glaswegians has a paternal quality.

Moyes has often relayed tales of calling Ferguson for advice during difficult times, detailing the dilemmas facing him at Goodison and awaiting the sage response.

Ferguson has always seen Moyes as having achieved as much as was financially possible at Everton, going beyond the ‘earning of his stripes’ stage to display those qualities of loyalty and reliability the United manager values.

He has been eager to see Moyes to move on to a higher ranking European club but only when the risk to his career is minimal. The pair speak so much, one imagines if Moyes ever considered he had to leave Everton to have a chance of moving to United, he would have done so already. It is a justifiable presumption Moyes has been told remaining at Goodison Park, albeit without regular European qualification, would not significantly damage his application for the United job.

Those who suggest Moyes is not ready due to his lack of Champions League pedigree are dealing with mere superficialities as, at any given time, the Everton manager could have headed abroad and found himself a European club in the qualifying phase and took his chances.

Granted, none of the superpowers of Italy, Spain or Germany have come calling, but many would argue consistently leading Everton into the top six – on one occasion the top four – is more impressive than leading a low ranking European qualifier to a premature Champions League exit. Why would he leave Everton for that?

The top four jobs in England have not been available, Ferguson and Arsene Wenger institutionalised. The move vacancy Moyes was most suited to – and he was considered for until it became obvious it was unpalatable to the city of Liverpool – was when Rafael Benítez left Anfield in 2010.

Chelsea continued to ignore Moyes despite numerous managerial changes and the most bemusing snub of all was Tottenham a year ago, unfairly mistaking Moyes' pragmatic style of management as dour, defensiveness.

The suggestion Moyes’ teams lack flamboyancy and flair is incorrect. Ask him what his football philosophy is and he’ll say he doesn’t have one other to win using whatever resources are at his disposal.

If he has the benefit of two speedy wingers on either flank feeding a 30-goal-a-season striker, he will assemble his line-up accordingly. He’s never had such personnel at Everton. What he has always done is underline his belief in youth development – a prerequisite United have intriguingly emphasised for Ferguson's successor.

While it’s true for a large part of his reign Moyes’ focus was building an Everton team that was admired for its application and robustness rather than artistry, he would argue that was a reflection of the circumstances, regularly pointing out that the most adventurous recruits are the most expensive and, therefore, the most risky. His side has still evolved into a far more attractive unit than it was.

His most effective signings have been bargains, the likes of Tim Cahill, Leighton Baines, Mikel Arteta and Phil Jagielka contributing to a Goodison era which has seen angst at regular relegation battles replaced with despair at narrow failures to reach the Champions League. Goodison does not look any different to the stadium Moyes walked into in March 2002, but in terms of pre-season ambitions each summer it is unrecognisable.

Whoever takes over from Ferguson is going to seem risky in comparison just by appearing mortal. Moyes, as much as anyone else, would have plenty to prove but he has the inner belief that’s where he belongs.

He may not have the trophies on his CV, but he has the coaching pedigree and as much entitlement as any to believe he is the ideal man to replace Ferguson, managing United in a similar manner.

It is possible Moyes did not see this epoch-shifting announcement coming at 9.15am on Wednesday. That’s most likely because he’s been preparing for this eventuality since the moment he became a coach.
I guess we're all wrong on Moyes. He really is a great, great manager

spanky 08-05-13 12:17 PM

The Moyes history rewrite is in full affect :)

Chazza 08-05-13 12:17 PM

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Pat Murphy @patmurphybbc
Man Utd's players told to report 1 hr early for training this morning. Were some of them the 'deep throats' for the accurate press stories?

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:18 PM

Apparently Evra was blabbing big time yesterday. :D

Sarb 08-05-13 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky (Post 2641622)
The Moyes history rewrite is in full affect :)

:handshake:

Aye it must just be coincidence that his team set-up of "team to win a game" doesn't work against the Top 4 away from home, and he hasn't managed to win a single trophy (he couldn't beat our reserves in the FA Cup Semi last year). He has been found wanting in the big games. It's rubbish really.

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:22 PM

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keme nzerem c4 news ‏@nzerem_c4
it's #Moyes to replace #fergie. V strong hints from senior figures inside #MUFC

fah-q 08-05-13 12:22 PM

Blabbing or blubbing?

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:24 PM

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Martyn Ziegler ‏@martynziegler
Jose Mourinho will not be Ferguson's successor, senior sources tell me. Moyes clear frontrunner. Story on PA wire. #pafergie

Joey Jones 08-05-13 12:25 PM

Moyes isn't that great on youth development is he? Can't think of many players who have come through the system there.

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:26 PM

I've been trying to think and can hardly think of any. Coleman? Well they bought him. Barkley is coming through now. Rodwell LOL. Anyone else?

Chazza 08-05-13 12:27 PM

Jose Baxter......oh wait.

Gibbo 08-05-13 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedenj (Post 2641595)
Man U fan on Talksport outside Old Trafford is in tears trying to do an interview. Apparently he was sent home from work due to his emotional state.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Reece 08-05-13 12:28 PM

Didn't they have a striker - James Vaughan? What happened to him?

Gibbo 08-05-13 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 2641635)
I've been trying to think and can hardly think of any. Coleman? Well they bought him. Barkley is coming through now. Rodwell LOL. Anyone else?

I imagine the media will play on Rooney for the youth development side.

Reece 08-05-13 12:29 PM

And who was the kid who left them for Newcastle? Gosling?

Mattshark 08-05-13 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2641638)
Didn't they have a striker - James Vaughan? What happened to him?

Huddersfield I believe.

Shaggy 08-05-13 12:29 PM

Plays for Huddersfield :haha:

Gibbo 08-05-13 12:29 PM

Jackett - Wigan - Martinez - Bitters - Moyes - United

:rock:

Joey Jones 08-05-13 12:29 PM

Anichebe :haha:

Chazza 08-05-13 12:30 PM

Of course we have all forgotten about big Victor!


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