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BobTheCharmer 24-06-15 10:43 AM

Balotelli will love playing alongside this guy:rock:

Buzzo 24-06-15 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCharmer (Post 3133654)
Balotelli will love playing alongside this guy:rock:

:haha::rock:

Patricks_Berger 24-06-15 10:46 AM

Why didn't we sign him last summer?

Rich 24-06-15 10:46 AM

It kind of feels a bit like when we signed Suarez doesn't it?! OK, Suarez had achieved a bit more at Ajax but similar age, similar fee, similar position. :rock:

red g 24-06-15 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCharmer (Post 3133654)
Balotelli will love playing alongside this guy:rock:

Roberto Firmino: Had a worse conversion rate (7.4%) than any other player with 5+ goals in the Bundesliga last season

wasnt Balotelli's about twice as good before he came to Liverpool? 14% i seem to recall.

Needles 24-06-15 10:48 AM

Great technique. really looking forward to seeing an attack built around him.

Slinky Skills 24-06-15 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3133596)

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 3133653)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...cd0a4fd0c.jpeg

We need to look at a forward who can get on the end of these through balls then. Coutinho and Firmino now. Both specialists in that.

:haha::haha:

SB 24-06-15 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by False9 (Post 3133514)
Roberto Firmino - Top 5 Goals - YouTube

BDog talked about last season being a transition ... with these signings I can really see back in the hunt this season

Holly crap. Not bad finishing at all. Great first touch.

G 24-06-15 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3133596)

:haha:

Phoenix07 24-06-15 11:04 AM

It should be Slinky's avatar.

kev776 24-06-15 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BobTheCharmer (Post 3133654)
Balotelli will love playing alongside watching this guy:rock:


G 24-06-15 11:05 AM

Loves a no look goal. You just know he's going to fall arse over head trying one for us.

kev776 24-06-15 11:06 AM

Seen him quite a few times and he is actually quite good. Will suit our fast sharp passing game, when we can be arsed doing it.

SB 24-06-15 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by G (Post 3133675)
Loves a no look goal. You just know he's going to fall arse over head trying one for us.

At Old Toilet :sigh:

Paddy 24-06-15 11:13 AM

This no look goal thing. It's reminding me of Robbie Keane away to Atletico.

tanner 24-06-15 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The_weatherman (Post 3133615)
Tbh I just didn't have any faith in us getting quality signing over the line, this is the type of player we NEEDED last summer. Everybody has been saying we can't sign top players but we can, we just need to identify them and pay for them.

I think a signing like Firmino transforms the other signings, suddenly Milner and Ings look like good signings, we have Origi coming in and possibly Clyne. Let's say Sterling, Lambert and Borini leave.

Milner > Gerrard
Firmino > Sterling
Origi > Borini
Clyne > Johnson
Ings > Lambert
Bogdan > Jones

Then we have Wisdom, Illori and Gomez in and Ibe for the whole season. Not having to deal with the Gerrard situation will be relief for Rodgers as well.

Its definitely added some positivity. I've always thought that Milner was a good signing, Origi, I just have a feeling he's going to be a complete disaster and be gone in a couple of seasons. Ings should be a decent squad addition, alongside another top forward. Clyne would be an improvement on Johnson no doubt, but lets see if he signs first.

We need to add a top striker and a top centre back next imo, then I think we can have a decent run.

Nicey 24-06-15 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paddy (Post 3133680)
This no look goal thing. It's reminding me of Robbie Keane away to Atletico.

Its extremely cool :rock: until it really is fucking not :rant: ; )

Nicey 24-06-15 11:25 AM

You can just tell with a name like that his song is already being formed

Chris 24-06-15 11:34 AM

Gonna be tense times watching the Paraguayan hatchet men trying to break his legs on Saturday!

Paddy 24-06-15 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 3133691)
Gonna be tense times watching the Paraguayan hatchet men trying to break his legs on Saturday!

Injured, and we resort to CFB

Shaggy 24-06-15 11:54 AM

Still nothing from Brendan. :D

Daniel 7 24-06-15 11:56 AM

Weird. Second biggest signing in Liverpool's history and the manager has nothing to say about it?

Gray 24-06-15 11:58 AM

Something must be going on :chin:

The_weatherman 24-06-15 11:59 AM

LFCZA ‏@LFCZA 5h5 hours ago
Goals and assists aside, #Firmino made 175 tackles over the last two seasons, a tally bettered by only five players in the Budesliga. #LFC

foresterbloke 24-06-15 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marcus50bucks (Post 3133589)
One thing that definitely stands out in the clips posted on here, ST and when I've seen him play for Hoff and that is he does lack pace contrary to what some people say. I don't think he's much quicker than Lallana if at all. Would still like us to sign someone who is more explosive to compensate for the loss of Sterling when the inevitable happens. :handshake:

On the contrary, his anticipation is a lot higher than most so he appears to be there in an instant. Watch his movement, it's really good.

Fierce 24-06-15 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Paddy (Post 3133680)
This no look goal thing. It's reminding me of Robbie Keane away to Atletico.

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Originally Posted by False9 (Post 3133683)
Its extremely cool :rock: until it really is fucking not :rant: ; )

Is he not just checking whether or not he's been given offside? Certainly looks like it in the first clip, the over the defender cross where he takes it round the keeper

Nicey 24-06-15 12:10 PM

Watching the Copa ... and 2 .... 2 fucking Brazil players in the starting 11 are Liverpool Players !!! get in

meffin 24-06-15 12:14 PM


Shaggy 24-06-15 12:18 PM

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...l-more-to-come

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Roberto Firmino believes he improved 'physically, technically and tactically' during his time in Germany, but the new Liverpool forward insists there is plenty more development for him.

The Reds announced today that a deal has been completed, subject to a medical after the Copa America, for the 23-year-old Brazilian to join Brendan Rodgers' squad ahead of the 2015-16 season.

During his four-and-a-half years with Bundesliga side Hoffenheim, Firmino made 151 league and cup appearances and struck an impressive tally of 47 goals.

His form at club level forced recognition on the international stage and the versatile attacker has found the target four times in nine games for his country to date.

Speaking to FIFA.com in March, Firmino said: "When I arrived at Hoffenheim I could already play football, but I've developed physically, technically and tactically since then.

"The Bundesliga is one of the world's best leagues. I had to adapt and improve to get by here, and although I've now reached a good level, there's still more left to do.

"My own dissatisfaction is my biggest motivation."

Reds manager Brendan Rodgers is delighted with the signing.

"I'm delighted", said Rodgers. "It's wonderful."

Nicey 24-06-15 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by meffin (Post 3133717)

:haha::haha::haha: laugh my fucking ass off ... thank you internet thank you :respect:

Fivex 24-06-15 12:19 PM

:haha::haha::haha::haha:

spud_gun 24-06-15 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by False9 (Post 3133714)
Watching the Copa ... and 2 .... 2 fucking Brazil players in the starting 11 are Liverpool Players !!! get in

Worst Brazil team in living memory :haha::sigh:

Shaggy 24-06-15 12:20 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...P=share_btn_tw

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Liverpool’s Roberto Firmino: a thiever of balls who never stops running

Marcus Christenson

The 23-year-old Brazilian arrives with a hefty price tag but his Bundesliga record is excellent and his workrate and application reminiscent of Luis Suárez

In December 2010 the Hoffenheim sporting director, Ernst Tanner, travelled to the east coast of Brazil to check out a player at the second division side Figueirense. The reports had been promising but Tanner did not know what to expect as he turned up for training to watch the young Roberto Firmino Barbosa de Oliveira.

Afterwards, Tanner was not much the wiser. “It was strange because during some exercises he would just, without any apparent reason, just fold … but instead of making a big meal out of it and getting angry, he listened carefully to his coach and learned from what he had done wrong. That impressed me.”

It is perhaps not the most glowing reference ever heard from a scouting mission but Tanner convinced Hoffenheim that the 19-year-old, whose move to Liverpool was announced on Wednesday, was worth a gamble. In January 2011 the Bundesliga club signed the player for €4m without much fanfare. At the low-key unveiling Tanner explained the club’s plans for the unknown Brazilian.

“We are delighted to have been able to strengthen our squad with a top talent from Brazil, in which several international clubs were interested,” he said. “We will give him enough time to settle in here at our club. He has already shown his qualities with eight goals in 36 games and was recently voted the best player in the Brazilian second division.”

In hindsight, Firmino could hardly have chosen a better club to start his European adventure. Hoffenheim is a tiny town south of Frankfurt with only around 3,000 inhabitants. The young Brazilian was allowed to settle without the pressure of being at a big club, or even in a big city.

Hoffenheim are only in the Bundesliga because of Dietmar Hopp’s huge financial support but they have also been extremely successful with their South American imports. In the month Firmino arrived at Hoffenheim, the club sold Luiz Gustavo to Bayern Munich for €17m. He had arrived from Corinthians Alagoano in 2008 for an even smaller fee than Firmino did three years later.

Firmino, in fact, was looking forward to moving to Europe so much that he got himself a tattoo in German before he boarded the flight. There was only one slight problem: he had used an internet translation tool, which did not use the umlaut on the ö in the phrase: “Familie unaufhorlich Liebe”, which roughly translates as “unremitting love for the family”.

Undeterred, the Brazilian made his Bundesliga debut a month after arriving in Germany and played in 11 league games that season, mainly as a substitute, scoring three goals; and this is the thing about Firmino, he is not an out-and-out goalscorer. He is a forward who averages roughly a goal every three games, and he has done that throughout his career.

What he does provide though, is an unrelenting work ethic. In that respect, he is similar to Luis Suárez and Alexis Sánchez. He will harry and press the opponents until he drops. In one match report in Germany he was described as the “clever, first stealer of balls in Hoffenheim’s pressing system”.

Holger Stanislawski, his first manager at Hoffenheim, immediately described him as being “unbelievably good tactically”, which will be music to Brendan Rodgers’ ears after a season of having to teach Mario Balotelli, among other things, how to defend at corners.

In fact he has been showered with praise for most of his time in Germany, the papers describing him as one of few players “who stay focused for the entire 90 minutes” and a “master of moving around without anyone noticing him, to provide goals or score them himself”.

There have been some disciplinary issues and he was once suspended briefly by Hoffenheim for turning up late for training but that was early on in his career and he has not done it since.

The 23-year-old was born in Maceió – as was Pepe and Mario Zagallo – which is one of Brazil’s most dangerous cities. His father sold water bottles to commuters waiting in the queues in and out of the city and he had to move to Figueirense on his own when he was 16. “It was not an easy time,” he has said, “I was completely on my own”. But that experience will have prepared him for moving to Germany, and now to England.

The 2013-14 season was arguably Firmino’s best to date with the manager Markus Gisdol getting the best out of him. Gisdol not only made him a better attacking player but also instilled the workrate ethic that was surely a big reason for Liverpool paying as much as £29m for him.

That season he scored 16 goals in 33 Bundesliga games, finishing third behind Marco Reus (30) and Robert Lewandowski (31) in the goalscoring charts. He also provided 12 assists that season and is, in fact, the player who has created most chances in the Bundesliga (138) over the past two seasons. Firmino also had the joint-third most assists last season (10) with Thomas Müller. Not bad for someone playing for a mid-table club.

Currently with Brazil at the Copa América, Firmino has coped well with the pressure of leading the line now that Neymar is suspended and he has already scored four goals in nine appearances for the national team. Carlos Dunga’s side play Paraguay in the quarter-finals on Saturday.

Behind the scenes, he is a bubbly, fun character but in front of the cameras he comes across as incredibly shy. On Tuesday, at a Copa press conference before his moved was confirmed, he managed to answer 18 questions without saying anything of note. It got to a point where the Brazilian journalists could only smile.

Most importantly for Liverpool, though, is that they seem to have learned from last summer’s travails in the transfer market. Then a deal for Loïc Rémy collapsed in late July and the club were forced into what can only be described as a panic buy with Balotelli in August. This time they have already signed James Milner, Adam Bogdan, Danny Ings and now Firmino.

The fee is eye-watering considering it is almost as much as Chelsea paid for Diego Costa and more (with add-ons) than Arsenal paid for Sánchez. But there is no doubt that he is an extremely talented young player who is still improving. There will be few defences in the Premier League looking forward to an afternoon battling Philippe Coutinho, Firmino and Daniel Sturridge – if fit.

And while £29m does seem a lot, if Raheem Sterling joins Manchester City for a fee of around £45-50m then Liverpool will have got a more consistent performer and made a hefty profit in the process. They’ll settle for that, and if Sterling stays, then opposing defences will be in even more trouble next season.

Fivex 24-06-15 12:20 PM

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"I'm delighted", said Rodgers. "It's wonderful."
So he's said just these 4 words in the last 3 weeks? :confused:

Edit - Kurtangled thank yah.

Shaggy 24-06-15 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by meffin (Post 3133717)

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Gray 24-06-15 12:24 PM

Imagine if Sterling did stay.........Jeez

Vermilion 24-06-15 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3133611)

:haha: I swear he did that with a volley in one of the compilations posted in this thread, thought i was seeing things! :haha:

Hope he hits the ground running! if he misses one of those in a big game we lose, he'll be called arrogant and self serving! :D

Not by me though, i love it!! :rock::rock:

tanner 24-06-15 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by meffin (Post 3133717)

That's brilliant! :haha:

Shaggy 24-06-15 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fivex (Post 3133730)
So he's said just these 4 words in the last 3 weeks? :confused:

Edit - Kurtangled thank yah.

:haha::rock:

Bender 24-06-15 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray (Post 3133734)
Imagine if Sterling did stay.........Jeez

fsg will be thinikng shit we didn't budget for that :haha: think he's defo leaving,although never rule out a U-turn at LFC ....Gerrard/Suarez


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