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Elvoz 18-11-08 08:36 PM

maradona
 
and all this nonsense with terry butcher

anyone think "butch" is looking a bit of a tit giving it the i wont shake his hand shite :confused:

ffs if the sweaty socks beat ingerland to win the world cup with such a move would he give it the billy big bollix then ?

fuck off "butch" shake the wee mans hand - he was to many the greatest player ever

btw by putting maradona in charge is that the equivalent to putting gazza in charge of ingerland ?

el voz
news at ten
scotland :handshake:

Shanks 18-11-08 09:29 PM

Maradona hits back by saying...


New Argentinian coach Diego Maradona has re-opened an old debate by saying Geoff Hurst's controversial World Cup final goal in 1966 never crossed the line.

Elvoz 18-11-08 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shanks007 (Post 1212436)
Maradona hits back by saying...


New Argentinian coach Diego Maradona has re-opened an old debate by saying Geoff Hurst's controversial World Cup final goal in 1966 never crossed the line.

and diego knows a line alreet :handshake:

badpiggy 19-11-08 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by elvoz (Post 1212438)
and diego knows a line alreet :handshake:

:haha: sharp

fah-q 19-11-08 12:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6lKumn8JE

Tee 19-11-08 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvoz (Post 1212413)
and all this nonsense with terry butcher

anyone think "butch" is looking a bit of a tit giving it the i wont shake his hand shite :confused:

ffs if the sweaty socks beat ingerland to win the world cup with such a move would he give it the billy big bollix then ?

fuck off "butch" shake the wee mans hand - he was to many the greatest player ever

btw by putting maradona in charge is that the equivalent to putting gazza in charge of ingerland ?

el voz
news at ten
scotland :handshake:


:handshake:

lmao at the end bit.

PTP 19-11-08 10:49 AM

:haha: - thats exactly what me and my mates discussed at the pub the other day, having maradona in charge would just be like England having Gazza :laugh:

Been listening to talk sport recently and the bookies they have on (paddy power, coral) have slashed the odds from argentina being favourites to win the next world cup, don to like 5th favourites since maradona took over.

Elvoz 19-11-08 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PTP (Post 1212757)
:haha: - thats exactly what me and my mates discussed at the pub the other day, having maradona in charge would just be like England having Gazza :laugh:

Been listening to talk sport recently and the bookies they have on (paddy power, coral) have slashed the odds from argentina being favourites to win the next world cup, don to like 5th favourites since maradona took over.

i was on there the other night talking bout stevie g :handshake:

PTP 19-11-08 10:58 AM

saying?

Elvoz 19-11-08 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PTP (Post 1212766)
saying?

the knob on it was saying stevie needed ingerland more than liverpool

i put him right

dww 19-11-08 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTP (Post 1212757)
:haha: - thats exactly what me and my mates discussed at the pub the other day, having maradona in charge would just be like England having Gazza :laugh:

Been listening to talk sport recently and the bookies they have on (paddy power, coral) have slashed the odds from argentina being favourites to win the next world cup, don to like 5th favourites since maradona took over.

I largely agree with that although Maradonna seems to have better people around him now and as a figure head I imagine it could work (essentially a Klinsmann - Low partnership with even more emphasis on the deputy or deputies).

Also Argentina have got a surfeit of talent and established pattern of play so maybe someone with strong ideas and motivational skills is more what they need than a truly excellent coach.

dww 19-11-08 02:52 PM

Butcher is being a tit.

Neil Young 19-11-08 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dww (Post 1212991)
Butcher is being a tit.

Leopard/spots. :handshake:

Dessy 19-11-08 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dww (Post 1212991)
Butcher is being a tit.

:handshake: Answers the original post rather succinctly.

kev776 19-11-08 03:03 PM

That poisonous horrible little shit shouldnt be in charge of a prisoner's chain gang. There are few people I dislike more than him.

Tee 19-11-08 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kev776 (Post 1213009)
That poisonous horrible little shit shouldnt be in charge of a prisoner's chain gang. There are few people I dislike more than him.

Butcher isn't in charge though is he? I think George Burley is the Manager. :handshake:

Agree with your sentiment though. :crackoff:

Aza 20-11-08 12:30 AM

Maradonna is a shit stirring cheating little prick :shake:

Butcher ought to grow up though :shake:

Shake his hand and break all the fingers on his 'hand of God' :crackoff:

Buzzo 25-11-20 05:57 PM

RIP Legend.



Buzzo 25-11-20 05:59 PM

Still remember this as if it were yesterday.


Slinky Skills 25-11-20 06:00 PM

Christ :(

Total lunatic but probably the best footballer the world has ever seen imo.

Irishnev 25-11-20 06:01 PM

Noooooooooo - saw this bumped :sigh: an absolute legend - the anti hero - grew up watching football Italia at Maradona in the Napoli shirt is engrained in my memory. I clearly remember Mexico 86........shine on you crazy diamond

Norbs 25-11-20 06:05 PM

He didn't bring a smile to my face in 1986

spud_gun 25-11-20 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3672107)
Still remember this as if it were yesterday.

https://twitter.com/indigoliver/stat...43069431754754

First major international tournament I can remember. What a player he was.

Buzzo 25-11-20 06:06 PM

He was absolute box office. Rock n roll. No fucks given. Maverick. Genius.

Had anyone watched his documentary? It’s brilliant.


Buzzo 25-11-20 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spud_gun (Post 3672112)
First major international tournament I can remember. What a player he was.

Same. I remember ‘82 a bit, but I was only 7.

That game v England was pure Maradona. Zero fucks given and absolute insane talent.

And then what he did with Napoli was absolutely stunning.

Shaggy 25-11-20 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3672107)
Still remember this as if it were yesterday.

https://twitter.com/indigoliver/stat...43069431754754

Same. Me and my Dad. I think I was wide-eyed with my head in my hands. I remember my Dad going "WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" and I was just open mouthed. Must've been similar reactions all over England.

Remember how good he was against Belgium :haha:

spud_gun 25-11-20 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3672113)
He was absolute box office. Rock n roll. No fucks given. Maverick. Genius.

Had anyone watched his documentary? It’s brilliant.

Diego Maradona (2019): Official Trailer | HBO - YouTube

Yeah, it was on channel 4 earlier in the year.

Well worth checking out for anyone who hasn't seen it.

He went totally off the rails at Napoli. Probably the worst club in the worst he could have joined. Drugs and the Camorra What could go wrong?

Here's a great article on his time there and the documentary

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...es-documentary

McDermotX 25-11-20 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3672113)
He was absolute box office. Rock n roll. No fucks given. Maverick. Genius.

Had anyone watched his documentary? It’s brilliant.

Diego Maradona (2019): Official Trailer | HBO - YouTube

Aye.....was brilliant, just like he was.

Seem to recall the Gary Lineker one being decent before


Buzzo 25-11-20 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3672118)
Same. Me and my Dad. I think I was wide-eyed with my head in my hands. I remember my Dad going "WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" and I was just open mouthed. Must've been similar reactions all over England.

Remember how good he was against Belgium :haha:

I remember thinking (obviously with a slightly different POV) that the hand ball goal was a problem. Imagining the media narrative if he had won it with that. I mean it was bonkers anyway but that... just after the war.... it felt like he knew that, and that the way he could fix it was by scoring one of the most beautiful and audacious goals you’ve ever seen. It was staggering. I’d never seen a player just get the ball, run at goal, beat everyone and score!!!

The only other goal that left me like that was Van Bastens volley.

He dismantled a very good Belgium team with similar skills. I absolutely adored him. And he was a rebel :rock: His love of the marching powder clearly had a lasting effects, the doc alludes to a lot of his late nights with the Mafia when he was playing the day after :haha: He was nuts. Didn’t know how to say ‘no’.

Buzzo 25-11-20 06:30 PM

This finish.


Buzzo 25-11-20 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishnev (Post 3672109)
Noooooooooo - saw this bumped :sigh: an absolute legend - the anti hero - grew up watching football Italia at Maradona in the Napoli shirt is engrained in my memory. I clearly remember Mexico 86........shine on you crazy diamond

Mars bar sponsor :haha: :rock:

McDermotX 25-11-20 06:35 PM

Ah memories


Buzzo 25-11-20 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McDermotX (Post 3672127)

:haha: You can tell he is absolutely loving this.

Fredo 25-11-20 06:44 PM

Fuck. He's the greatest. My idol when I was a kid. :sigh:

RIP Diegito.

Shaggy 25-11-20 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3672121)
I remember thinking (obviously with a slightly different POV) that the hand ball goal was a problem. Imagining the media narrative if he had won it with that. I mean it was bonkers anyway but that... just after the war.... it felt like he knew that, and that the way he could fix it was by scoring one of the most beautiful and audacious goals you’ve ever seen. It was staggering. I’d never seen a player just get the ball, run at goal, beat everyone and score!!!

The only other goal that left me like that was Van Bastens volley.

He dismantled a very good Belgium team with similar skills. I absolutely adored him. And he was a rebel :rock: His love of the marching powder clearly had a lasting effects, the doc alludes to a lot of his late nights with the Mafia when he was playing the day after :haha: He was nuts. Didn’t know how to say ‘no’.

He and the rest of Argentina probably enjoyed the first goal even more. 'viveza criolla' at its best :haha:

Quote:

Loosely translated as ‘native cunning’, viveza criolla is the art of mischievous deception particular to Uruguay and Argentina. In the words of anthropologist Eduardo P. Archetti, it encourages a “capacity to cheat where necessary”.

One of its central principles is to “gain a psychological edge wherever and whenever possible” – and, rather wonderfully, it is all the more welcome if it is against your biggest rivals. Daniel Rosa, a journalist with Uruguayan publication El Pais, said:

"There’s an expression in Uruguay about how you want to win. If it’s in the last minute and with a moment that enrages your opponent, all the better. That is viveza: knowing how to gain any advantage."

Buzzo 25-11-20 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3672131)
He and the rest of Argentina probably enjoyed the first goal even more. 'viveza criolla' at its best :haha:

:haha: Wow. I just listened to the translation of this in his Lineker interview, but, I didnt know it was part of the culture!

You can't compete with that. You have to, begrudgingly admire it.

Buzzo 25-11-20 06:49 PM

I can't recall the details (it is in the documentary) exactly, but that fight was connected to this, slightly late, slightly high, shocker.


Shaggy 25-11-20 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzo (Post 3672133)
:haha: Wow. I just listened to the translation of this in his Lineker interview, but, I didnt know it was part of the culture!

You can't compete with that. You have to, begrudgingly admire it.

:haha::handshake:

Absolutely. It entirely explains away Luis Suarez as well. :haha:

McDermotX 25-11-20 06:51 PM

Quote:

More from Brazil legend Pele.

"What sad news. I lost a great friend and the world lost a legend. There is still much to be said, but for now, may God give strength to family members. One day, I hope we can play ball together in the sky."
That's a wonderful last sentence.

Buzzo 25-11-20 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy (Post 3672135)
:haha::handshake:

Absolutely. It entirely explains away Luis Suarez as well. :haha:

:haha: :handshake:

Based on this, he must have mainly been wondering what all the fuss was about?


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