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Old 25-11-21, 05:48 PM   #27201
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I can't see how he can work with Ronaldo. Should be entertaining how that plays out.
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Old 25-11-21, 06:05 PM   #27202
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I can't see how he can work with Ronaldo. Should be entertaining how that plays out.
100% the biggest challenge for their long term evolution.

He is a massive ego to have to work around.
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Old 25-11-21, 06:08 PM   #27203
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I can't see how he can work with Ronaldo. Should be entertaining how that plays out.
Exactly what i was thinking ...too much being made of this already...will be power struggle between Ragnick and Ronaldo, With the latter most likely to leave....Also how many of the Utd squad can press like Liverpool and City....Many a false dawn at Utd..his only benefit would be as a dof...and one last bit ...if he's that good whaat the hell is he doing in russia!
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Old 25-11-21, 06:41 PM   #27204
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I can't see how he can work with Ronaldo. Should be entertaining how that plays out.
MAguire as well, If they try and play a high defence line

Wank Bissaka if they try and play football.

Pogba in a pressing game

While he may have a brilliant CV he left Shalke due to Vegative Burnout and I can imagine working to turnaround this United team will not be easy.

Hopefully he fucks off after a few months
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Old 25-11-21, 08:10 PM   #27205
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if he has the DoF role though, then the club might actually back him and sell all of the shite that they have bought. Perhaps it will take them a while but they could have their shit together......

Although essentially they will need about 7 new players for the first team alone
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Old 25-11-21, 08:28 PM   #27206
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I need a compilation of every clip of Van der Vaart saying how shit Harry Maguire is

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Old 25-11-21, 09:07 PM   #27207
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Old 25-11-21, 09:19 PM   #27208
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Who gives a fuck who they appoint as manager. They are complete shite….
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Old 26-11-21, 10:16 PM   #27209
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Now I'll never know if Carrick is a savant manager!! Pissed they're getting Rangnick.


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Old 26-11-21, 10:44 PM   #27210
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Now I'll never know if Carrick is a savant manager!! Pissed they're getting Rangnick.
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Old 26-11-21, 11:15 PM   #27211
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Old 29-11-21, 01:45 PM   #27212
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Confirmed and then as a consultant for two years. Which seems quite non committal and not the DoF they were hoping for.

He may well be the godfather of the gegenpress but he has won fuck all. Intertoto and a couple of German cups.

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Old 29-11-21, 01:48 PM   #27213
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Old 29-11-21, 02:06 PM   #27214
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Confirmed and then as a consultant for two years. Which seems quite non committal and not the DoF they were hoping for.

He may well be the godfather of the gegenpress but he has won fuck all. Intertoto and a couple of German cups.

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1465282005369860098
He was never a “successful” manager but he has built great foundations when he was allowed full control. He won a few promotions with Hoffenheim and RBL and in both cases he was given free reign to oversee all aspects of building the club. He will not be given that at United and he never worked with a club of this size.

The father of gegenpressing is total bs also - Klopp is an advocate of Sacchi’s Milan side and his counter pressing style. I have no doubt he could go well at United but it could also blow up if he isn’t given the control he likes.

Nonetheless it will be interesting to see how it goes
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Old 29-11-21, 02:11 PM   #27215
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He will do good things there for sure. We have a good 3 or 4 year head start on them though. We just need to make sure we keep growing and building
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Old 29-11-21, 02:18 PM   #27216
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He will do good things there for sure. We have a good 3 or 4 year head start on them though. We just need to make sure we keep growing and building
Not happening. He is only there until the end of the season......
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Old 29-11-21, 02:19 PM   #27217
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Not happening. He is only there until the end of the season......
More in terms of planning/squad building rather than as manager
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Old 29-11-21, 02:24 PM   #27218
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More in terms of planning/squad building rather than as manager
I see....I'm still not sure he is a good fit for them.....
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Old 29-11-21, 02:25 PM   #27219
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Strange one this, If he does a shit job as an interim manager are they really going to want him to stay on?
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Old 29-11-21, 02:32 PM   #27220
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If he does a good job though, then he might want the gig full time???
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Old 29-11-21, 02:46 PM   #27221
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It's a difficult one because what do you define as successful or not successful for them at the moment? Not getting CL would be bad for them but that looks like a real struggle, looking at the table there seems to be a top 3 and then 7 teams going for that 4th spot at the moment (presumably a number of them will fall off as the season progresses). If they finish 4th this year he'll have done a really good job IMO. If they don't and just miss out (i.e. finish 5th) I wouldn't say he'd have done a bad job from where they are now, if they finish 8th that's a continuation of what Solskjaer has been doing so that would be bad. Anywhere between 5th and 8th would be difficult to evaluate and depends on what he does in the transfer market.
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Old 29-11-21, 07:47 PM   #27222
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If he does a good job though, then he might want the gig full time???
The they are back in the 'Ole Conundrum' of hiring a manager who has never managed at the top level and not won anything of note.
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Old 29-11-21, 09:15 PM   #27223
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Their big problem will be how the big names and lazy cunts respond to being asked to put a shift in
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Old 29-11-21, 09:18 PM   #27224
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Their big problem will be how the big names and lazy cunts respond to being asked to put a shift in
Also this is particularly a problem if they know/think that the manager is only going to be around for the rest of the season.
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Old 30-11-21, 06:29 AM   #27225
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Old 30-11-21, 11:04 AM   #27226
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He was never a “successful” manager but he has built great foundations when he was allowed full control. He won a few promotions with Hoffenheim and RBL and in both cases he was given free reign to oversee all aspects of building the club. He will not be given that at United and he never worked with a club of this size.

The father of gegenpressing is total bs also - Klopp is an advocate of Sacchi’s Milan side and his counter pressing style. I have no doubt he could go well at United but it could also blow up if he isn’t given the control he likes.

Nonetheless it will be interesting to see how it goes
It's all relative though. In Germany that is a successful manager because usually Bayern are impossible to compete with.

Klopp is an anomaly there in the bundesligas recent history.

I actually think he will get a lot of control because they are lacking in any sort of football direction and need to move on with the game since Ferguson's days at the club.
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Old 30-11-21, 11:07 AM   #27227
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So much poor defending... And thats from his 'good ' season.

When you consider that clip doesn't even have any of his blunders from this season!
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Old 30-11-21, 11:57 AM   #27228
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Strange one this, If he does a shit job as an interim manager are they really going to want him to stay on?

also I think if he is going to transform the way they play etc, it will take time, and surely they can’t expect instant results this season- with the quality that they have, I expect they’ll prob get 4th place ahead of the likes of west ham/arsenal.. but I don’t expect them to be transformed into the type of team that rangnick envisions, by the end of the season.

There could very well be a case where they are progressing to this new style of play at the pace he expects, but they finish 7th/8th (Similar to us at the end of klopp’s first year). If this was to happen, would the fans etc all stand by him? I defo don’t see them having the same patience as they had with Ole, if things don’t go smoothly. For example, say he benched Ronaldo in the CL last 16 game and they got knocked out. Could see fans turning on him.
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So much poor defending... And thats from his 'good ' season.

When you consider that clip doesn't even have any of his blunders from this season!
There’s more here


The time he dragged Luke Shaw to the ground to give the striker a clear shot was probably my favourite.
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The time he dragged Luke Shaw to the ground to give the striker a clear shot was probably my favourite.
Hard to know what his 'plan' is there?

The other class one is the early on clip v Chelsea, where he stumbles about, crashing into Matic but somehow holds onto the ball. He then plays a pass out of defence where you think for a second "I suppose he has done alright there' only for that pass to land straight at the feet of an onrushing Chelsea player

He is shite. If it was not for him being an England international it would be in the media all the time.
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Old 30-11-21, 12:33 PM   #27231
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Hard to know what his 'plan' is there?

The other class one is the early on clip v Chelsea, where he stumbles about, crashing into Matic but somehow holds onto the ball. He then plays a pass out of defence where you think for a second "I suppose he has done alright there' only for that pass to land straight at the feet of an onrushing Chelsea player

He is shite. If it was not for him being an England international it would be in the media all the time.
Definitely gets the England bias, he's utterly woeful but hardly ever gets called out on it (van Der Vaart and Keane apart) it's much the same with Pickford he's Englands number 1 so much be good.
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Why is he doing a Steve McLaren impression?
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I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a shitter defender especially when you take into account he cost £80m. £80m!!!
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£80m buys you a lot of shit.
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A great big pile of it actually
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He was the one who signed Bobby Firm for Hoffenheim. I'm sure Klopp had a talk with him regd Bobby when he joined us
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£80m buys you a lot of shit.
........... Hence why the grass grows so green at OT.
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Hilarious that their new manager can’t get a work permit.
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He is also apparently on an £8.5m bonus if he can persuade Haaland to sign

They just chuck money at anything.
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