2022/23 Season - Page 2

topscorer · 03-08-22, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe79

Can't argue with a Supercomputer

https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/1554791802431062023

It's not infalible though. It sees Everton finishing a comfortable 14th

Harv · 04-08-22, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

£58k a week, not to be sniffed at.

https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/st...19178345705473

More than I earn and I have a Masters of Architecture degree at Uni that took 6 years.

Should've dropped out of school and driven trains

Kenneth · 04-08-22, 02:05 AM

For three mill a year, I’d push the train

Sus · 04-08-22, 03:35 AM

They should just give us the trophy now

Though I did see another supercomputer prediction (Nate Silver's 538, I think) - which gave city a 60%+ chance of the title, and us less than 33% - so let's ignore that one, clearly wrong

Irishnev · 04-08-22, 02:33 PM

I’m a long time listener to these lads and I think they are up there with the best for stats driven analysis of Liverpool. This is their season preview - if you like stats based info then you’ll like this

Norbs · 04-08-22, 05:25 PM

Rob Green

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62354857

Pepe79 · 04-08-22, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Norbs

Rob Green

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62354857

An improvement on last season, when half of them had us finishing 4th and Chelsea winning the league.

Shaggy · 05-08-22, 08:21 AM

Jota, Konate, Keita, Ox, Jones, Tsimikas, Kelleher and possibly Alisson injured for the first game. 8 already. Annoying as fuck.

Harv · 05-08-22, 08:27 AM

How did Keith get injured again ffs??

At least non of them are overly serious (not factoring in Ox as he's shit and never plays anyway)

Shaggy · 05-08-22, 08:31 AM

He (Keita) missed that ridiculous Strasbourg friendly with an injury.

Harv · 05-08-22, 08:37 AM

He played against City though didn't he? It was late here and I was half asleep by the time the game finished, but I don't recall him going off injured. Weird.

Mustn't be too bad anyway

Shaggy · 05-08-22, 08:41 AM

Yeah he came on and got injured so missed the friendly the next day

Sus · 05-08-22, 08:53 AM

Isn't he ill? So not serious, and will be back in training next week and good to go, at least unless he trips over a blade of grass and breaks his head

Pepe79 · 05-08-22, 09:00 AM

Yep Keita is out with illness. Presumably Covid since he's still not back in training.

Cerbie · 05-08-22, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishnev

I’m a long time listener to these lads and I think they are up there with the best for stats driven analysis of Liverpool. This is their season preview - if you like stats based info then you’ll like this

https://twitter.com/anfieldindex/sta...51613123248129

Thanks for this! Right up my street, new dog walking audio content.

Irishnev · 05-08-22, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerbie

Thanks for this! Right up my street, new dog walking audio content.

They do post match every Tuesday also

Mr Pink · 05-08-22, 12:36 PM

I’ve been thinking, there’s 3 big changes this year that I think all go in our favor:

1) Liverpool and city both bringing in a natural number 9.
Both teams will have to adjust, and I think both players may take some time to settle in, or for the teams to get used to their style of play. But I think we’ll be better at easing nunez in, while city look to starting with haaland from the get go. While I reckon haaland will come good, if city are over reliant on him, while he’s settling in, they could fall behind early on, and it might cost them- with the points both teams have been racking up the last few seasons, you can’t afford to start slow.

2) The World Cup
I think this may be a blessing in disguise, especially with Salah sitting it out. Yes haaland isn’t going too, but if you look at what happened Salah in the second half of last season, where he was running on empty- this season he could hopefully have 2 half seasons like the first half of last season!! We saw how fresh he looked in the community shield, after having a break- well he’s gonna have an even longer break at Christmas! Also, while it’s tough playing every 3 days, I think we can cope with it better than other teams- last year, city had the league all but won in January, but we clawed it back to 1 point, in the busiest part of the season, where the games were coming thick and fast. Both halves of this season are gonna be that intense, and while it will make things more difficult, hopefully we can cope with it better than city.

3) the 5 substitutes
Pep made the fewest subs of any manager last season! I think to games like the 0-0 draw with palace, where he made no subs, even though sterling, Jesus etc were all on the bench. That’s not to say that the 5 subs won’t benefit them, but I just think it will benefit us more.

So basically, I think we’re gonna win the league!

frank the tank · 05-08-22, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pink

I’ve been thinking, there’s 3 big changes this year that I think all go in our favor:

1) Liverpool and city both bringing in a natural number 9.
Both teams will have to adjust, and I think both players may take some time to settle in, or for the teams to get used to their style of play. But I think we’ll be better at easing nunez in, while city look to starting with haaland from the get go. While I reckon haaland will come good, if city are over reliant on him, while he’s settling in, they could fall behind early on, and it might cost them- with the points both teams have been racking up the last few seasons, you can’t afford to start slow.

2) The World Cup
I think this may be a blessing in disguise, especially with Salah sitting it out. Yes haaland isn’t going too, but if you look at what happened Salah in the second half of last season, where he was running on empty- this season he could hopefully have 2 half seasons like the first half of last season!! We saw how fresh he looked in the community shield, after having a break- well he’s gonna have an even longer break at Christmas! Also, while it’s tough playing every 3 days, I think we can cope with it better than other teams- last year, city had the league all but won in January, but we clawed it back to 1 point, in the busiest part of the season, where the games were coming thick and fast. Both halves of this season are gonna be that intense, and while it will make things more difficult, hopefully we can cope with it better than city.

3) the 5 substitutes
Pep made the fewest subs of any manager last season! I think to games like the 0-0 draw with palace, where he made no subs, even though sterling, Jesus etc were all on the bench. That’s not to say that the 5 subs won’t benefit them, but I just think it will benefit us more.

So basically, I think we’re gonna win the league!

Fuckin right doggie....... Lets bring it fuckin home

Paul12 · 05-08-22, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pink

... 3) the 5 substitutes
Pep made the fewest subs of any manager last season! I think to games like the 0-0 draw with palace, where he made no subs, even though sterling, Jesus etc were all on the bench. That’s not to say that the 5 subs won’t benefit them, but I just think it will benefit us more. ...

I think this one is going to be fascinating. In the Champions League games, I got the impression Klopp tended to make two or three substituions in one go mid-way through the second half to refresh a particular unit (usually midfield) and change the tone of the game. With 5 subs we can change all but one of our entire midfield and attack, which feels a bit like playing a joker! (In the card game sense, not in the Batman or Everton footballer sense!)

Irishnev · 05-08-22, 06:38 PM

Charly · 05-08-22, 07:30 PM

Is that Triple H...

Shaggy · 07-08-22, 10:34 AM

Good

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S-RED · 08-08-22, 06:09 PM

oH FOR FUCKS SAKE
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Kenneth · 08-08-22, 06:11 PM

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oH FOR FUCKS SAKE
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ffs

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ChesterDave · 08-08-22, 06:40 PM

All the officials are shit. It doesn't matter which ones we get

Irishnev · 09-08-22, 09:32 AM

We draw one game and we straight away question everything - there is no doubt that we have a mature side but Konate, Nunez and Elliott (say) drop the average significantly

Buzzo · 09-08-22, 09:57 AM

Yeah more of a last day of the season rather than first day. We are unbeaten in the League in 2022..!

Scratch · 09-08-22, 01:11 PM

And who decides peak age ranges anyway? With todays fitness/nutrition regimes, it feels like that data above is outdated.

Jaco_Pastorious · 09-08-22, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scratch

And who decides peak age ranges anyway? With todays fitness/nutrition regimes, it feels like that data above is outdated.

Think the needle has certainly moved as to how long a player stays at or close to their peak compared to a few decades ago.

However I do not think it too outlandish to say that a large % of outfield players, especially ones expected to cover the most ground like central midfielders, are past their peak physical condition by the time they are 30+ in age.

Will always be exceptions to that of course and the number of exceptions will probably grow in relation to continued improvements in diets/sports science etc.

Buzzo · 11-08-22, 08:32 AM

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Pablo · 11-08-22, 09:19 AM

Yeah, I remember when we used to blow teams away in the first half. We are well capable of starting fast and we really do need to get back to that.

Starting slow means not killing games off early, and not killing games off early means using up too much energy, in too many games.

Definitely an area to improve on.

Venton · 11-08-22, 05:19 PM

Teams line up differently against us now. Even Guardiola plays it less loosely than he used to when it comes to us. They're set to defend right from the off and try to pick us off on the break, usually targeting our right hand side. You can't just expect to twat teams in the first twenty minutes any more, you need a more measured game plan.

Kenneth · 11-08-22, 06:16 PM

Not conceding is another matter though. It’s certainly true that we shouldn’t be expecting to blow teams away from the off, but conceding first so regularly seems like a psychological issue that needs work.

Buzzo · 11-08-22, 08:26 PM

Yep - our results are still amazing. It just means we are having to work so much harder for wins. I’m sure it has been picked up on, and in terms of this season 1 game is not much of a sample.

Venton · 11-08-22, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth

Not conceding is another matter though. It’s certainly true that we shouldn’t be expecting to blow teams away from the off, but conceding first so regularly seems like a psychological issue that needs work.

Absolutely. I think we've read our own press a bit and can look quite casual now, especially at the beginning. Need to get a bit of bite back, especially in midfield.

Venton · 11-08-22, 09:37 PM

Also, I think Trent needs to come into midfield. He's caught between the birds and the beasts these days and it doesn't suit him.

Slinky Skills · 11-08-22, 10:49 PM

I think people are forgetting that we're only one game into the season.

Fosterbloke · 11-08-22, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Slinky Skills

I think people are forgetting that we're only one game into the season.

I think people aren't forgetting that you can only afford to drop a few points to win the league against Oil City.

danperkins · 11-08-22, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fosterbloke

I think people aren't forgetting that you can only afford to drop a few points to win the league against Oil City.

Slinky Skills · 12-08-22, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fosterbloke

I think people aren't forgetting that you can only afford to drop a few points to win the league against Oil City.

That is true but what I'm getting at is it's the first game of a new season where it's widely expected we'll play in a different formation and style. We need to give it more time.