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Old 01-12-19, 02:20 AM   #841
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Old 14-12-19, 05:42 PM   #844
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A protective boot isn't so much of an issue as it helps recovery. But he's not expected back for a few months anyway. With Wijnaldum out now we look stretched a little.

I reckon we'll push for Sander Berge as said in the match thread.
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Old 14-12-19, 05:49 PM   #845
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Our midfield is now Hendo, Keita, Lallana, Milner. Players that may be expected to play there : Shaq, Ox. Not sure we can do too much 433. Hope we're well out of sight before teams start exploiting that.
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A protective boot isn't so much of an issue as it helps recovery. But he's not expected back for a few months anyway. With Wijnaldum out now we look stretched a little.

I reckon we'll push for Sander Berge as said in the match thread.
Who?

I reckon we won't buy another midfielder beyond that Japanese fella who's coming in January. Milner and Keita can step in and we also have Curtis Jones.
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I reckon we won't buy another midfielder beyond that Japanese fella who's coming in January. Milner and Keita can step in and we also have Curtis Jones.
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I reckon we won't buy another midfielder beyond that Japanese fella who's coming in January. Milner and Keita can step in and we also have Curtis Jones.
Erm. The fella who played against us twice this season with Genk. Klopp has spoken highly of him and apparently we've had 15m rejected already. Nothing credible just yet but there's a clearly a mutual respect.
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Old 30-12-19, 10:24 PM   #849
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Amid the ongoing success at Liverpool this December, it's been lonely for one prominent first-team star.

Jurgen Klopp and his squad have recorded eight wins from as many games across the month to book qualification to the last-16 of the Champions League, pick up the Reds' first-ever Club World Cup trophy and maintain a push for the Premier League title.

Meanwhile, Fabinho has faded into the background, working behind the scenes, aiming to return to the side at the earliest possible juncture.

A little over two weeks ago, the Brazil international cut a desolate figure, slowly making his way through Anfield's mixed zone after the 2-0 win over Watford, long after each of his team-mates had passed through and spoken of their latest three points.

The £40million signing from Monaco was wearing a huge protective boot on his left foot and on crutches, hobbling away to little fanfare, the last one to leave, wearing a pained expression as he did so. The sadness was palpable.

It appeared, to onlookers at the time, like a long road to recovery for the injured Liverpool midfielder. That rough estimation of a six-to-eight-week spell on the sidelines with ankle ligament damage seemed to be wishful thinking.

His team-mates then flew to Qatar for the Club World Cup as he stayed behind, working with staff at Melwood as the Reds fought to make Liverpool history in Doha.

Physiotherapy and rehabilitation was the order of the day for Fabinho at the West Derby complex as the rest of the squad contested a tournament on a different continent.

As the Reds fought their way past Monterrey and then Flamengo in the final at the Khalifa International Stadium, Fabinho was merely a spectator, over 4000 miles away, cheering them on.

There was some brief respite during those lonely sessions, most notably when Takumi Minamino pitched up from Red Bull Salzburg to undergo the formalities of his medical ahead of a £7.25million switch from the Austrian champions.

Fabinho was the first of Minamino's new team-mates to welcome him to the club as the pair met at Melwood ahead of the Japan international's workout with the club's medical staff.

The impending transfer is not exactly a like-for-like where Fabinho is concerned, but the sight of a potential rival for a slot in Liverpool's midfield three might have added to his Melwood motivation during those quiet sessions behind the curtain.

Fabinho has been made to watch on from afar as Liverpool have swept all before them to establish a 13-point lead at the summit of the Premier League.

Klopp's players have admirably made light of the absence of a midfielder whose influence was only growing prior to that injury against Napoli towards the end of November.

A top-class defensive midfielder at the peak of his powers, Fabinho's return will only bolster this title-chasing Liverpool side when he returns to action in the New Year.

Some 15 days on from his hobble through Anfield, Fabinho, back in that same mixed zone, looked much happier. Free of the crutches and out of the boot, the 26-year-old waltzed through the stadium, laughing and joking as he made his way.

His return is edging closer, but the club won't be in any rush to speed things up with the midfield coping so well in his absence right now.

The player himself, however, will be counting down the days until he is named in a Liverpool team once more.

That day could be coming sooner than many had first feared. That lonely December is nearing an end.

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That's an awful lot of words to say absolutely nothing.


No closer to knowing when he’s back.

He’s out of the ski boot and smiling tho
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The Echo is a joke now.

I remember when Bascombe and then Barrett were the LFC reporters there and they were genuinely breaking big news.
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Old 30-12-19, 11:08 PM   #853
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That's an awful lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
completely agree.

Could have been: Fabinho is now 'Free of the crutches and out of the boot'
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Old 30-12-19, 11:10 PM   #854
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Old 30-12-19, 11:12 PM   #855
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That's a bit unfair.

Time... it happens. And for those of you not following closely, this is how much time has happened so far.
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Presumably the journalist is getting paid by the word
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Old 27-01-20, 07:42 PM   #859
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Love Fab, but he’d clearly been dunked in a bucket of rust before the Shrewsbury game. Let’s hope normal service is resumed soon
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Liverpool have a big Fabinho problem, and Jürgen Klopp needs to make a ruthless decision now

The Brazilian has looked off-the-pace since his return from injury, and it's time for the manager to make some difficult choices.

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Ever since his return from injury, Fabinho's play has toggled somewhere between blah and awful. At first, that could be put down to rust. But he doesn't deserve that benefit of the doubt anymore.

In the last three games he has looked slow, pedestrian on the ball, and more of a hindrance than a help in the transition game — both attacking and defending He is not the sole reason why Liverpool have lost three of their past four games, and he's not solely to blame for the team's latest loss, losing 2-0 last night to Chelsea in the FA Cup fifth-round. But he is high on the worry list.


For much of the Chelsea game, Fabinho looked completely off the pace. The numbers are jarring and brutal: zero tackles, zero aerial duals won, dispossessed twice, one error leading to a goal, and one yellow card — which meant he was unable to bring down Ross Barkley as the Chelsea midfielder surged forward to score the second goal on Tuesday night.

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Prior to his November injury, the midfielder was redefining what it meant to be a single pivot in a Klopp team. He set the tempo of play, kept the ball ticking over, and would consistently, naturally, drop into the backline to form a back three alongside Virgil van Dijk and Joe Gomez.


Fabinho was lauded for his defensive work. Few, if any, players were better in the league at shielding his back two. He seemed to be anywhere and everywhere at all times, apparently apparating into position. Those long, gangly legs allowed him to close ground in a way the likes of Jordan Henderson simply couldn’t. Where they looked like the defensive work took effort, Fabinho looked a natural.

What set him apart, though, was his work on the ball. He initiated a bunch of Liverpool’s build-up playing: spreading the ball out to either fullback, pinging it in between the lines, or moving with the ball himself — gathering it off Alisson before breaking the first point of the press.

All of that has vanished in the past five games. He's looked sluggish on the ball, has been routinely dispossessed, and has looked like he's moving at a completely different speed to the rest of the match — but not in a good way. Earlier in the year he was averaging 8 ball losses per 90. Since his return, that number has ballooned to 14, with five of them coming in his own half.

Tuesday's performance against Chelsea was his worst yet. He was routinely isolated and overloaded in the central areas. But whenever he was required to think two or three steps ahead, to shuffle across and snuff out danger before Chelsea could break the lines, he was two or three steps behind.


There is an argument to be made that what we've seen in recent weeks is a rusty Fabinho who's still to get over his injury. It's the first time in his career that he's experienced a knock that has ruled him out for multiple games. Those arguments hold some validity, but they deserve the follow up response: then why is he playing?

Is Klopp trying to play him back into form? Is the player struggling to manage his return, meaning the issue is getting worse not better as he plays?

It was noticeable how visibly frustrated Klopp was with Fabinho throughout the second-half. For a 15-minute spell, Klopp turned towards his own bench and unloaded to his support staff about the midfielder after each and every decision. If Fabinho played the ball to feet, the boss was unhappy with the spend or length of the pass. If he tried to switch the play, Klopp was unhappy that the ball was clipped to someone’s chest rather than drilled to their feet along the ground.

It was a frustration born of the past few weeks not just the previous 45-minutes. Fabinho was once one of the most reliable players in the team, and he's now become a liability.

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Chelsea's second goal was indicative of all the issues. A poor, clumsy, pointless challenge not five minutes earlier had resulted in his booking. As Chelsea went to take a throw in, he found himself caught ahead of the game, strolling beyond Ross Barkley. As Barkley gathered steam towards the Liverpool goal, Fabinho had no choice but dawdle past him, unable to bring him down. Barkley slammed the ball to put Chelsea 2-nil up.


Klopp has a big decision to make. With Jordan Henderson out, Fabinho has been the sure-fire number six. But his play has been so sloppy that that should now be up for discussion. Will Klopp shift to a double pivot look, perhaps lining up in a 4-2-3-1 to give Fabinho more cover? Will he give James Milner a chance to slot in at the number six slot in a like-for-like swap? Or, perhaps would he be willing to give Pedro Chirivella a chance against Bournemouth at the weekend, if only to give Fabinho a mental and physical breather — though Klopp opted to keep Chirivella on the bench despite Fabinho's struggles at Chelsea.

What's clear is something needs to change, even if just for 90 minutes. Call it rust. Call it a dip in form. Call it whatever. The worst run of Liverpool's season, which has seen them loss a chance at an invincible league campaign, slip in the Champions League and dumped from the FA cup, has corresponded with a drop in Fabinho's play. On the ball and off it he's been poor. And the manager needs to find a fix.
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Old 04-03-20, 10:18 AM   #864
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Double pivot seems like the likely fix to me. The front three have barely affected games in the last three and the midfield has lacked control since Hendo left it. We'll be all over that.

Fabs will be fine though he's just had to come into form when we've been off it all over the place. Not easy.
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Old 04-03-20, 11:59 AM   #865
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Wijnaldum has also looked miles off the pace in recent weeks

So you are missing Henderson have Fabinho and Wijnaldum off the boil, Milner injured (just coming back) and Ox and Keita in and out of the side either due to injury or their own form dipping

And then you have Lalllana FFS
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Old 04-03-20, 12:04 PM   #866
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Atletico match is going to be huge.

If Henderson could somehow be fit for it, then that would be huge.

If not, then I think we need Milner starting.
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Old 04-03-20, 12:08 PM   #867
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The atmosphere will be epic, if we don’t raise our game massively for this then when will we? Stumbling to the league is not idea in the context of the season, although it would still be more than we could have hoped for
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Hendo back for the CL game tho, I believe? Last I heard he was back running in training?
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That article is nail on the head stuff about Fab, he hasn't been just off he has been dreadful. Seems polar opposite to the Viera like player we have seen before. Agree Gini been off his best aswell. We do need Hendo back asap but the hamstring can be a tedious injury for a player that runs so much like Hendo. At least Milner is coming back to fitness, I know he doesn't have the legs of Hendo but his experience and leadership is vital.
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That article is nail on the head stuff about Fab, he hasn't been just off he has been dreadful. Seems polar opposite to the Viera like player we have seen before. Agree Gini been off his best aswell. We do need Hendo back asap but the hamstring can be a tedious injury for a player that runs so much like Hendo. At least Milner is coming back to fitness, I know he doesn't have the legs of Hendo but his experience and leadership is vital.
Players rushing back after hamstring trouble are usually asking for more trouble!
Then again, What we have learnt about types of hamstring tears so if Henderson has a grade 1 tear then he might be okay but the club medics know better!
Hoping that Henderson will be fit & raring to go for the Madrid game but some of the Atletico players/staff may attempt to use this to their devious best knowing that Henderson has just come back from hamstring injury.

Anyhow good luck to him!
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Players rushing back after hamstring trouble are usually asking for more trouble!
Then again, What we have learnt about types of hamstring tears so if Henderson has a grade 1 tear then he might be okay but the club medics know better!
Hoping that Henderson will be fit & raring to go for the Madrid game but some of the Atletico players/staff may attempt to use this to their devious best knowing that Henderson has just come back from hamstring injury.

Anyhow good luck to him!
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That article is nail on the head stuff about Fab, he hasn't been just off he has been dreadful. Seems polar opposite to the Viera like player we have seen before. Agree Gini been off his best aswell. We do need Hendo back asap but the hamstring can be a tedious injury for a player that runs so much like Hendo. At least Milner is coming back to fitness, I know he doesn't have the legs of Hendo but his experience and leadership is vital.

Yes, he's looking like a much shitter version of Lucas at the mo.

As someone that's had multiple torn ankle ligaments Im not surprised that he's struggling. His mobility has been severely impacted. I remember when I started playing again after my injury and I was turning like an oil tanker and my touches were shocking at time.

He'll get better, but it probably won't be this season. He clearly had a pretty serious ankle ligament injury and its just going to take time to get back into rhythm.
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Thought he was one of the bright lights in a dull game the other night.
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Odd opening 10mins or so, lack of awareness on a header into defensive space, and was probably lucky to avoid an early yellow not long after (Iwobi (?) foul)
Looked more like himself after that though. Simple things done well etc, which is good to see after a long break.
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Looked more like himself after that though. Simple things done well etc, which is good to see after a long break.
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Monster performance today. Keep this level of performance and he can be an all-time great.

When he plays like this, the opposition can't get near our defense. That is before the assist which Pirlo would have been proud off and that goal.
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Monster performance today. Keep this level of performance and he can be an all-time great.

When he plays like this, the opposition can't get near our defense. That is before the assist which Pirlo would have been proud off and that goal.
Reads the game so well and he has a great physical presence about him. And that goal, stunning.
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He was a bit shite before Covid but wow today was world class.
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Top drawer last night, they all were...........the old Fab is back
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superb. The best thing was he was back to putting out of fires everywhere, thats what we need next week The ball to Mo was Fab all over and then the thundercunt to finish it off

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