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Old 04-10-21, 08:22 AM   #321
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Midfield was ok. Curtis Jones was timid and never imposed himself on the game. Itís these kind of games that he needs to grow himself into to elevate his game, which is capable of. Possession wise was pretty much even, which is good against City, so in my mind midfield did ok.
Midfield was ok besides Jones and Henderson playing shite
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Old 04-10-21, 10:22 AM   #322
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I donít want to drag it out either, but both photos show Jones challenging in the centre of the pitch when he was playing on the left of midfield. Iím wondering why Fab wasnít on KDB on the edge of the box, instead Jones had to cover the angles to KDB and Jesus, and faces the criticism.


If Jesus wasn't there then I'm sure Curtis would have been closer to KDB, but he had to cover both possibilities because Robbo had been dragged in by Walker.

You can't cover everything, just a shame the deflection took it past Alisson.
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Old 04-10-21, 11:40 AM   #323
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I guess given the opposition, our first half performance and the red card let-off, we can't really feel too bad about a draw. Still can't help but feel we should have held up better defensively, especially after our second goal. And that Fabinho miss... fuuuck.
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Old 04-10-21, 11:44 AM   #324
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I guess given the opposition, our first half performance and the red card let-off, we can't really feel too bad about a draw. Still can't help but feel we should have held up better defensively, especially after our second goal. And that Fabinho miss... fuuuck.
They were the better team no doubts, Trent was a huge loss, defence was a mess but alot of that was down to the midfield not offering any protection for the backline & fuck all for the front line. The Fab miss was a shocker no matter how anybody tries to justify it. Watched it again a few times today and ffs it was in keeping with his reaction times the whole game. Absolute sitter for any pro footballer and unfortunately was the the reason we didn't finish the game with 3 points.
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Old 04-10-21, 01:42 PM   #326
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They were the better team no doubts, Trent was a huge loss, defence was a mess but alot of that was down to the midfield not offering any protection for the backline & fuck all for the front line. The Fab miss was a shocker no matter how anybody tries to justify it. Watched it again a few times today and ffs it was in keeping with his reaction times the whole game. Absolute sitter for any pro footballer and unfortunately was the the reason we didn't finish the game with 3 points.
I thought it was a game of two halves. They were undoubtedly the better team in the first half, but thought we shaded it the second

And yeah, Fabinho wasn't up to his usual standards the entire game, including the fairly horrific miss; though that was some exceptional defending to get in front of it so quickly
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I thought it was a game of two halves. They were undoubtedly the better team in the first half, but thought we shaded it the second

And yeah, Fabinho wasn't up to his usual standards the entire game, including the fairly horrific miss; though that was some exceptional defending to get in front of it so quickly
Sometimes it seems we forget about the quality of the other team. And that they want to win the game also. City are the most expensively assembled team on history and we held our own. They had the better of the first half we looked fantastic in the second.

Seems like ever time we drop points it has to be because x, y or z are shit/not playing well.

Was a belting second half full of top quality attacking football from both teams.
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Split second to sort his feet out have the defender the chance for wonder block. Not as of Fab is a seasoned poacher.

Was a big chance to win against a top team though.
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Old 04-10-21, 02:17 PM   #330
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Sometimes it seems we forget about the quality of the other team. And that they want to win the game also. City are the most expensively assembled team on history and we held our own. They had the better of the first half we looked fantastic in the second.

Seems like ever time we drop points it has to be because x, y or z are shit/not playing well.

Was a belting second half full of top quality attacking football from both teams.
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There are 2 teams on a pitch, not getting the result is never just the fault of one them

Cracking game and one that I think both sides can be reasonably content with

Devils advocate, should Milner have been able to leave the pitch at our behest as opposed to the officials?
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Sometimes it seems we forget about the quality of the other team. And that they want to win the game also. City are the most expensively assembled team on history and we held our own. They had the better of the first half we looked fantastic in the second.

Seems like ever time we drop points it has to be because x, y or z are shit/not playing well.

Was a belting second half full of top quality attacking football from both teams.

Yep, was a great game of football. And despite injury to key players and several players having very poor performances we still managed to hold our own and get a draw against a team thats just on a unfair playing field financially.

Felt sorry for Milner there. He's the ultimate pro, but he was on a hiding to nothing all game, but still gave his all.
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The only thing he did wrong, in my opinion, was not passing the ball into the roof of the net, which would have taken the slide from Rhodri out of the equation. The extra touch to control it was fine, it was just the finishers instinct to lift the ball that lacked.
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Old 04-10-21, 04:15 PM   #333
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It wasn’t a miss!
Agreed, he could have possibly gone for the first time toe poke rather than trying to get it under control but had he missed that he’d have definitely got stick for not taking a touch first.
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The only thing he did wrong, in my opinion, was not passing the ball into the roof of the net, which would have taken the slide from Rhodri out of the equation. The extra touch to control it was fine, it was just the finishers instinct to lift the ball that lacked.
Any loft and he'd have scored
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There are 2 teams on a pitch, not getting the result is never just the fault of one them

Cracking game and one that I think both sides can be reasonably content with

Devils advocate, should Milner have been able to leave the pitch at our behest as opposed to the officials?
Yeah, 95 times out of 100 thatís a yellow card, the only slight mitigation was that it was Ďboughtí a bit. He absolutely launches himself into the air on contact. But it was a pretty lucky escape.
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I assume the ref gave the foul against Hendo so wasn’t interested in the subsequent challenge.
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The only thing he did wrong, in my opinion, was not passing the ball into the roof of the net, which would have taken the slide from Rhodri out of the equation. The extra touch to control it was fine, it was just the finishers instinct to lift the ball that lacked.
I think he has to control it initially with his left foot, using his right meant that he had so much readjustment to do.
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In the ground I had no concern it was a second yellow tbh, with the pace of the game and tackles going in it looked pretty standard. Silva was off balance after the Henderson tackle, then he already starts going down before Milner came in looking for a foul. If Milner pulled out last second Silva was still hitting the deck the cheating cunt.

Sky slowing it down and showing the one angle of it makes it look worse.

I think the ref was probably also influenced by how good the game was becoming at 1-1 and wanting to keep 11 vs 11, if Milner goes off it ruins the spectacle which is being watched by millions all over the world in a showpiece game, if that's Burnley-Norwich in a 3pm its a bit easier to make that call.
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In the ground I had no concern it was a second yellow tbh, with the pace of the game and tackles going in it looked pretty standard. Silva was off balance after the Henderson tackle, then he already starts going down before Milner came in looking for a foul. If Milner pulled out last second Silva was still hitting the deck the cheating cunt.

Sky slowing it down and showing the one angle of it makes it look worse.

I think the ref was probably also influenced by how good the game was becoming at 1-1 and wanting to keep 11 vs 11, if Milner goes off it ruins the spectacle which is being watched by millions all over the world in a showpiece game, if that's Burnley-Norwich in a 3pm its a bit easier to make that call.
Fair point on that last paragraph as probably didn't want to spoil the match & make a name for himself. However, I agree with the first point - Silva is a snidy little fuck!
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Yeah, 95 times out of 100 thatís a yellow card, the only slight mitigation was that it was Ďboughtí a bit. He absolutely launches himself into the air on contact. But it was a pretty lucky escape.
I thought he was close to appearing on flight radar before the contact in all honesty.
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Nah. He made it overly dramatic, but Milner clearly tried to bring him down by trailing a leg. But as I said above, the Hendo tackle was given as a foul, but then why didn’t the ref play the advantage for that as he kept the ball? It was a homer decision imo.

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I thought Milner had got away with a blatant 2nd yellow at the time.

But I didn’t realise the foul was actually given for the 1st challenge by Hendo and seeing it again, that Silva appears to already be launching himself from that first contact anyway.

Makes it more pathetic that Tyler and Neville then spent the rest of the game making it out to be the biggest game changing miss-carriage of a decision they’ve even seen.
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I think he has to control it initially with his left foot, using his right meant that he had so much readjustment to do.

Thatís what I thought the pundits clarified right after the game. But absolutely no mention of it in any of the post match written analysis, everyone seems to have just taken the lead from Pepís crying.
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I’m assuming you mean Milner, but why wouldn’t the red play on for the first one as he still had the ball, then give the foul against Milner if it were true?
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Iím assuming you mean Milner, but why wouldnít the red play on for the first one as he still had the ball, then give the foul against Milner if it were true?
That's not the way the advantage rule works is it?

Played on because it was advantageous to do so; then pulled it back to the original foul when a second foul cut short said advantage?
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Dunno how that post got quoted.

Yeah, Hendo fouled, no advantage happened so the free kick was given.

Milner would have been dealt with separately if heíd given him an uppercut instead of just sticking his leg out, but the free kick would still have been awarded for Hendoís foul.
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Was I dreaming or did Silva get booked?

If so why not one mention anywhere of him getting away without a red? Pretty sure he was booked for dissent and then in the 85th minute bought someone down in their half. Should 100% been a yellow and would have been if not already booked
Commentators didn't mention it as too busy going on about Milner. I can't believe the amount of talk since all about the fact he should of walked. Bullshit. There's contentious calls in every game and very little heard. Fucking neville, Tyler and that useless lump Micah Richards, the thickest pundit in history.
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Was I dreaming or did Silva get booked?

If so why not one mention anywhere of him getting away without a red? Pretty sure he was booked for dissent and then in the 85th minute bought someone down in their half. Should 100% been a yellow and would have been if not already booked
Commentators didn't mention it as too busy going on about Milner. I can't believe the amount of talk since all about the fact he should of walked. Bullshit. There's contentious calls in every game and very little heard. Fucking neville, Tyler and that useless lump Micah Richards, the thickest pundit in history.
this, not a dicky bird mentioned about Silva.
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Nah. He made it overly dramatic, but Milner clearly tried to bring him down by trailing a leg. But as I said above, the Hendo tackle was given as a foul, but then why didn’t the ref play the advantage for that as he kept the ball? It was a homer decision imo.

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No idea why people think he should be sent off for this... Milner gets the ball first and nudges is away... it's his leg position that Silva runs into.. he doesn't even have the ball under control at that point
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It's surely the end for Carragher now.
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...Obviously Milly wasn't great for the goals either. ....
Particularly the second, where he was just lounging around on the bench!
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Particularly the second, where he was just lounging around on the bench!
I expect better from him donít you agree ?
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I expect better from him donít you agree ?
Related to that, Gomez coming on was the right (only) decision left. But it didn't half send a shiver up my spine. I really don't want to see him at RB, almost ever. He's a world class CB.
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a rogue "s" ffs
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Would be funny if he was asked about this on Sky....... what could the dope say about it???
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So in a weird way, Hendo did Milner a favour there as I'm sure Milner was ready to take that eejit Silva out of the game going at that speed.
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