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Old 06-07-21, 01:23 PM   #481
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Also, what the fuck does Piers Morgan know about mental toughness in the sporting arena

He just hates young women showing any sign of vulnerability it seems.
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Old 06-07-21, 01:49 PM   #482
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It looked like a panic attack to me and if you've ever had one you'd only have sympathy for her.

She did amazingly well to get through to a 4th round match in her first grand slam, critisising her for not maybe dealing with what was an enormous amount to pressure is utterly ridiculous but it's Piers Morgan so I'm not massively surprised.
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Also, what the fuck does Piers Morgan know about mental toughness in the sporting arena
Indeed in any arena

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Yeah, he's a fucking bully. Can't handle it at all when things dont go his way.
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Old 06-07-21, 02:19 PM   #485
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I'm not watching but it would appear from social media reaction that John Inverdale is discussing with Boris Becker how Hungarian women are the best during the tennis on BBC1.
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Old 07-07-21, 06:28 PM   #487
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Time for Fed to hang it up now. What a player but time has caught up with him
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Old 07-07-21, 07:14 PM   #488
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Time for Fed to hang it up now. What a player but time has caught up with him

Murray should do same as well.
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I think they should both play on as long as they want.
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Old 07-07-21, 10:42 PM   #491
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Murray should do same as well.
Different situation but it depends what they’re playing for.
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Berrettini fights back from a break down to win the first set v Djokovic.
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Djokovic wins in 4.

He is going to get the Men’s Slams record and then some. Nobody will ever match it.
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Berrettini looks a huge talent.
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Old 11-07-21, 06:13 PM   #496
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Old 11-07-21, 06:35 PM   #497
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Who'd have thought a decade ago that you'd see Federer replaced as the GOAT while he was still actively playing?

Novak is obviously a massive knob but his achievements are.up there with any in sport.
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No objections to Novak being considered the GOAT, he has a phenomenal record on all surfaces. It did bug me that Nadal could have held the record himself, when 13 of his 20 slams are Clay. But Djoko seems to excel on all surfaces, much like Federer...yes, he only won the 1 French Open, but he reached, what, 5 finals and came up against a rampant Rafa everytime.
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Who'd have thought a decade ago that you'd see Federer replaced as the GOAT while he was still actively playing?

Novak is obviously a massive knob but his achievements are.up there with any in sport.
Could make a case for him being the greatest in any sport ever, imo. To eclipse Federer in the greatest ever era of men's tennis is absolutely remarkable.
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Could make a case for him being the greatest in any sport ever, imo. To eclipse Federer in the greatest ever era of men's tennis is absolutely remarkable.
Would say that his most impressive feat is beating Nadal. Federer's a between era champ. Won most of his slams when better players weren't playing. As soon as Nadal and Novak got a bit older, they beat Federer with relative ease. Big difference between beating Cilic, Murray and Safin in a final opposed to Djokovic or Rafa.

It's like yes, Larry Holmes was a great fighter with great wins on his record. Can't say he's better than Foreman, Ali or Frazier though. Federer beating Agassi is like Holmes beating a million year old Ali.
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Would say that his most impressive feat is beating Nadal. Federer's a between era champ. Won most of his slams when better players weren't playing. As soon as Nadal and Novak got a bit older, they beat Federer with relative ease. Big difference between beating Cilic, Murray and Safin in a final opposed to Djokovic or Rafa.
With respect, what a load of nonsense.

Won most of his slams when better players weren’t playing. To win any Slam is to win 7 best of 5 set matches over a two week period. To do it once is an achievement to do it 20 times is incredible. There’s no luck. There is no such thing as a between era champion. You’ve created that.

You could also say that Novak and Rafa were lucky to not play Roger when he was at the peak of his powers. Or that Rafa won most of his slams on one surface.

Novak will go on to be the greatest, but the reasons that you give in discrediting the achievement of others miss the unbelievable efforts of all of them. Tennis is an incredibly difficult sport to play, the nuances involved in winning a match are tougher than pretty much any other sport.
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With respect, what a load of nonsense.

Won most of his slams when better players weren’t playing. To win any Slam is to win 7 best of 5 set matches over a two week period. To do it once is an achievement to do it 20 times is incredible. There’s no luck. There is no such thing as a between era champion. You’ve created that.

You could also say that Novak and Rafa were lucky to not play Roger when he was at the peak of his powers. Or that Rafa won most of his slams on one surface.

Novak will go on to be the greatest, but the reasons that you give in discrediting the achievement of others miss the unbelievable efforts of all of them. Tennis is an incredibly difficult sport to play, the nuances involved in winning a match are tougher than pretty much any other sport.
the 'with respect'. I'm not so fragile that that's required.

I disagree with that notion entirely. Federer was in his late 20s, still very much in his prime when he stopped winning regularly. Most of his slams were between 03 and 07. After that they were intermittent and mainly in tournaments where the other two were beaten by other opponents or were injured. I never claimed that he was lucky in terms of questioning his ability.

So how is it nonsense when the majority of his recent wins involve him beating the likes of Berdych, Cilic, Anderson, etc in the quarters onwards. I can't be bothered looking up stats, but Djokovic is up 11-6 in grandslams whilst Nadal is 10-4. They both have an almost 2:1 ratio of win to losses to Federer on the big stage. The fact that he's still been beating the players outside of the top brass for the last several years indicate that Federer's skills hadn't diminished. I've said on this thread before that I'm far from a tennis expert, but those numbers are clear in white and black.

It's not his fault that he wasn't a few years younger and couldn't go toe to two with Sampras and Agassi in his prime. I think timing is sometimes an important thing in sports and it's Federer has got his just right. Do you honestly think beating Safin, Hewitt and Rodick is the same Nadal?

Comparing sports doesn't really make sense as they are all unique, I'd say boxing is the hardest sport of them all though. Technique, discipline, tactics, conditioning and heart.

Naunces? Feel the next post is going to tell me to wallow in myself.
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Andy Murray rolling back the years against 23 year old 3rd seed Tsitsipas.

2-1 up.

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This is incredible. I thought he'd get pasted in straight sets.
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His best Tennis is still unreal. It’s just his fitness

Going toe to toe today though
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His head's gone here. He's right, Tsitsipas was cheating but he's gotta let it go.
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Still going on about it
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Still going on about it


Like a superhero in his quest for justice.

They both look fucked. I think Tsitsipas is going to hold on. 4 hours and 45 mins - just crazy levels of fitness required.
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I’m loving the no line judges thing.
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Old 31-08-21, 12:34 AM   #510
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Now or never for the break.

Murray just asked for the trainer, just a wind up

He’s had that done to him many many times Novak.
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Old 31-08-21, 12:40 AM   #511
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Tsitsipas wins in 5. Murray lost momentum start of the 4th.

Murray still raging about Tsitsipas cheating

Loudly “It’s a fucking joke”
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Tsitispas channelled full on Djokovic there.
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Old 31-08-21, 10:08 AM   #513
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Tsitispas channelled full on Djokovic there.


He really did. Its absolute shit house tactics during a 5 hour match, and Murray would never do the same (his 'can I take an injury time out' gag before the final game was very pointed).

Some encouraging signs for Andy though, and kudos to his surgeon.
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He played well, just doesn't have the fitness levels at the moment but that's the most encouraging signs I've seen of his game still being there or there abouts
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He played well, just doesn't have the fitness levels at the moment but that's the most encouraging signs I've seen of his game still being there or there abouts
agreed he was great. He ran out of gas, but that is understandable. Where can he take this? It will be interesting to find out.
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Murray doesnt miss a thing. Tsitsipas going to change his racquet at 0-30 was maximum shit-housery. He is effectively re-setting.

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Andy Murray says he "lost respect" for third seed Stefanos Tsitsipas during a feisty US Open match where the Briton accused his opponent of "cheating" by taking lengthy bathroom breaks.

Murray was angered by the Greek having an eight-minute toilet break before the fifth set of their first-round match.

Tsitsipas, 23, then won the decider for a 2-6 7-6 (9-7) 3-6 6-3 6-4 victory.

"It's not so much leaving the court. It's the amount of time," Murray said. "It's nonsense and he knows it."

The three-time Grand Slam champion added: "That's annoying for me because it sounds like sour grapes because you've lost a match.

"I would have said the same thing if I'd won, I promise."


I think it's nonsense and Tsitsipas knows it - Murray
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Tsitsipas, who did not break any rules, also left court for a toilet break at the end of the second set and had a medical time-out for treatment on a foot injury before the fourth set.

"It's just disappointing because I feel it influenced the outcome of the match," Murray said. "I'm not saying I necessarily win that match, for sure, but it had influence on what was happening after those breaks."

During the final set, where Murray was decisively broken in the first game, the 34-year-old Scot could be heard shouting towards his box: "It is cheating."

He also complained to chair umpire Nico Helwerth and US Open match supervisor Gerry Armstrong about the length of time taken by Tsitsipas.

"It's never taken me that long to go to the bathroom ever," Murray told Armstrong.

Tsitsipas said afterwards he has correctly followed the guidelines throughout his career.

Explaining the length of time, the French Open finalist added: "I think it's clear that I took my clothes with me when I left the court.

"That's the amount of time it takes for me to change my clothes and to walk back to the court takes a little bit of time."

Players are allowed two breaks for using the toilet and changing clothes in a five-set match, with breaks only permitted at the end of a set.

"A player may request permission to leave the court for a reasonable time for a toilet break," Grand Slam rules state.

When asked if he could understand Murray's anger, Tsitsipas said: "If there's something that he has to tell me, the two of us should speak to understand what went wrong.

"I don't think I broke any rules. I don't know how my opponent feels when I'm out there playing the match. It's not really my priority."

Murray said long breaks in such a "brutal" match can affect players physically and called for the rules to be changed "because it's not good for the sport, it's not good for TV, it's not good for fans".

"Every single time it was before my serve, as well. Also in the fourth set when I had 0-30, he chose to go and I think he changed his racquet," the former world number one added.

"It can't be coincidence that it's happening at those moments.

"I rate him a lot. I think he's a brilliant player. I think he's great for the game. But I have zero time for that stuff at all, and I lost respect for him."
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Tsitsipas is very good, but a bit of a bellend. Would have loved to see a Murray in his prime smash him in straight sets.

Thought Murray looked very good. He looks absolutely ripped, you can see his abs through his t-shirt FFS Not sure how he can get much fitter, but the top level tennis players are at an almost unbelievable level of fitness. 5 hours matches without ever seeming to tire.
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Definitely

I was playing tennis to a decent-ish club standard until relatively recently (Lockdown) I played in a tournament that was one set head to head. If I came up against a decent player and we went to a tie break the set took about an hour.

I was absolutely wrecked at the end of that hour.

How they do it for 5, at elite level and intensity defies belief.
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Raducanu crushing Rogers who knocked out Barty. She's a phenom.
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