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Old 21-06-21, 05:27 PM   #81
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I thought he was terrible last night. I think we'd be lucky if we got ten million for him.

He doesn't look very well to me, genuine how he looks a bit ill.
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Old 21-06-21, 05:28 PM   #82
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10m and 10m alone seems too much of a throwaway from us. Surely there would be a sell-on and/or buy back clause too
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Old 21-06-21, 05:47 PM   #83
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Certainly doesn't look like LFC 1st team standard, so 10m plus a sell on clause I'd be happy with.
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Old 21-06-21, 05:55 PM   #84
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Certainly doesn't look like LFC 1st team standard, so 10m plus a sell on clause I'd be happy with.


Got a mistake in him. Always looks like he is playing at 110% just to keep involved. I like him. But I'd not lose any sleep if he moves on.

Means we need RB cover though.
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Old 21-06-21, 05:56 PM   #85
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Dont mind selling him, but only if it means replacing him.

Also hope this touting him for sale doesn't mean we're struggling to shift the likes of Origi again.
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Old 21-06-21, 06:22 PM   #86
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Gomez is no right back cover. Just go out and a buy decent cover. Otherwise we know what will happen, trent will be out for the season and we'll be left with milner playing every game.
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Old 21-06-21, 07:09 PM   #87
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10m for a defender that can't defend is decent business. But yeah, best put that to a new signing or otherwise stick.
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Old 21-06-21, 07:21 PM   #88
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10m for a defender that can't defend is decent business. But yeah, best put that to a new signing or otherwise stick.
I'm all for selling him, I don't think he's very good but we do need decent cover not stop gaps. Our whole system and attack depends on the fullbacks getting forward and providing crosses. Gomez is not doing this nor is milner.
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Old 21-06-21, 08:48 PM   #89
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Gomez is no right back cover. Just go out and a buy decent cover. Otherwise we know what will happen, trent will be out for the season and we'll be left with milner playing every game.
Gomez at RB should not be considered an option
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Old 21-06-21, 09:11 PM   #90
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Agreed. But neither should Neco Williams
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Old 22-06-21, 04:15 AM   #91
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I think Neco will move into midfield, maybe a defensive midfield type.
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Old 22-06-21, 07:21 AM   #92
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Old 22-06-21, 08:58 AM   #93
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Old 22-06-21, 10:09 AM   #94
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There is obviously better talent coming up for right back at Liverpool than Neco right now so he's done a job & got some medals but thanks for the service & mind the door on the way out.
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Old 22-06-21, 12:44 PM   #95
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There is obviously better talent coming up for right back at Liverpool than Neco right now so he's done a job & got some medals but thanks for the service & mind the door on the way out.
Who are you thinking of?

(I am not disagreeing; it is just that we MUST have cover at right-back and I'd thought that Neco was a year ago considered good enough to be cover. He has not progressed over the last year but, frankly, who has? However, if he won't stay. we need someone who can play that position and not let us down and I didn't think we had any one as advanced as Neco.)
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Old 22-06-21, 12:59 PM   #96
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Who are you thinking of?

(I am not disagreeing; it is just that we MUST have cover at right-back and I'd thought that Neco was a year ago considered good enough to be cover. He has not progressed over the last year but, frankly, who has? However, if he won't stay. we need someone who can play that position and not let us down and I didn't think we had any one as advanced as Neco.)
We don't, and if you take kids from the youth team, bring them up and don't play them then they won't develop.
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Old 22-06-21, 06:37 PM   #97
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Who are you thinking of?

(I am not disagreeing; it is just that we MUST have cover at right-back and I'd thought that Neco was a year ago considered good enough to be cover. He has not progressed over the last year but, frankly, who has? However, if he won't stay. we need someone who can play that position and not let us down and I didn't think we had any one as advanced as Neco.)
Isn't there some mention of Conor Bradley?... Then there is Sean Wilson who has been doing well at underage & U23s whereas Conor Bradley has been getting exposure at international football with Northern Ireland at a senior level.
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Old 22-06-21, 07:04 PM   #98
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Isn't there some mention of Conor Bradley?... Then there is Sean Wilson who has been doing well at underage & U23s whereas Conor Bradley has been getting exposure at international football with Northern Ireland at a senior level.
Conor Bradley is 17, hes had about 5 mins with the Northern Ireland senior team in a friendly. Hes still a way behind Neco Williams in his development.

Sean Wilson is still mostly playing at U18 level and so appears to be behind even Bradley at this stage.
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Old 22-06-21, 07:11 PM   #99
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sure he doesnt look great but i think its difficult to judge players in the system that is played. I often ask 'wheres trent?' as he is miles up field leaving a massive gap. Neco filled in a few games and did exactly the same. its clearly under instruction in the system. Look at Gini for Netherlands! Looks a totally different player playing a different role in a system for the team
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Old 22-06-21, 07:15 PM   #100
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Conor Bradley is 17, hes had about 5 mins with the Northern Ireland senior team in a friendly. Hes still a way behind Neco Williams in his development.

Sean Wilson is still mostly playing at U18 level and so appears to be behind even Bradley at this stage.
Well, they are rated by the LFC Staff so if they are happy enough to let Neco go then these lads must be doing alright!
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Old 22-06-21, 07:21 PM   #101
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Well, they are rated by the LFC Staff so if they are happy enough to let Neco go then these lads must be doing alright!
We may be happy to let Neco go, but even if we do I massively doubt its got anything to do with either of these 2 lads for next season, or even the next few seasons.
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If Brighton cashed in Lampety and bought Neco to play right in that 343 he'd do well. He's not good enough as conventional right back.
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Old 23-06-21, 10:32 AM   #103
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We may be happy to let Neco go, but even if we do I massively doubt its got anything to do with either of these 2 lads for next season, or even the next few seasons.
Would someone like Max Aarons interest you?
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Old 23-06-21, 11:01 AM   #104
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Would someone like Max Aarons interest you?
If he were happy to be a 2nd choice and we were able to throw 30m on back ups, yeah
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If he were happy to be a 2nd choice and we were able to throw 30m on back ups, yeah
Think TAA will be earmarked for the midfield positions in the next couple of years...
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Think TAA will be earmarked for the midfield positions in the next couple of years...
Possibly, I dont its a certainty that happens though.

Either way, we wont be spending big on a fullback anytime soon.
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Fab can play right back of course.
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Old 23-06-21, 04:05 PM   #108
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Fab can play right back of course.
He can and CB too, but after last season I think were all agreed that we want to be able to keep our best defensive midfielder in midfield now
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He can and CB too, but after last season I think were all agreed that we want to be able to keep our best defensive midfielder in midfield now
Oh definitely!...contributed to our 6 losses at home in a row!
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Think TAA will be earmarked for the midfield positions in the next couple of years...

Would be surprised if that happened under Klopp, if at all.

TAA is top class in his current position and in midfield he would lose the same space to run into that he has from RB and his ability to link play from deep would be removed.

He would also have an awful lot less time on the ball and his ability to dictate attacking play from wide would be removed.

Not to mention the small matter of trying to find someone as good or better to replace him at RB if he moved to midfield. Think it would be easier to find a top class midfielder than it would be to replace TAA at RB.

Think the only guys I would gamble on replacing him at RB if he was pushed into midfield would be someone on the level of Kimmich (who we would not get) or maybe someone like Hakimi (who looks like he is about to move to France).
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Would be surprised if that happened under Klopp, if at all.

TAA is top class in his current position and in midfield he would lose the same space to run into that he has from RB and his ability to link play from deep would be removed.

He would also have an awful lot less time on the ball and his ability to dictate attacking play from wide would be removed.

Not to mention the small matter of trying to find someone as good or better to replace him at RB if he moved to midfield. Think it would be easier to find a top class midfielder than it would be to replace TAA at RB.

Think the only guys I would gamble on replacing him at RB if he was pushed into midfield would be someone on the level of Kimmich (who we would not get) or maybe someone like Hakimi (who looks like he is about to move to France).
Given how important the full backs are to our system and how well he is doing there, I don't see Klopp moving him, unless he can find another RB who is at least as effective or we chsnge the system.
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Why would we move him?! Makes no sense at all. He's a brilliant RB that influences a game like no other RB since Cafu / Dani Alves.
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Why would we move him?! Makes no sense at all. He's a brilliant RB that influences a game like no other RB since Cafu / Dani Alves.
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Why would we move him?! Makes no sense at all. He's a brilliant RB that influences a game like no other RB since Cafu / Dani Alves.
I agree that he is a "brilliant RB that influences a game like no other RB since Cafu / Dani Alves". And, although defending isn't his strongest suit, he is getting better at it and does not compromise our defensive style at all. But....

...the goal he scored against Villa is a reminder that, as a midfielder, he would be a goal threat some distance out (the first such midfield threat we have had since Lil' Phil) and I have thought for a while that we need that threat to stop teams sitting too deep. So I think we should be looking for him to do a couple of things over the next 12 months: improve his left foot and develop his midfield skills sufficiently that he can start wandering in from the wing should the game need it.
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For me it’s a misnomer about his defending, he’s an excellent defender but commentators and the like pick up on it due to the way we play and how attacking we’re set up from the fullback positions.

He’s clearly capable of playing in midfield but would he be as effective and what would we potentially lose from him moving there ? He’s essentially unique for that position at the moment and as it’s stands how we play we get the most from him at full back
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For me its a misnomer about his defending, hes an excellent defender but commentators and the like pick up on it due to the way we play and how attacking were set up from the fullback positions.

Hes clearly capable of playing in midfield but would he be as effective and what would we potentially lose from him moving there ? Hes essentially unique for that position at the moment and as its stands how we play we get the most from him at full back


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It's quite confusing talking about a worldie of a RB in the trent thread.
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It's quite confusing talking about a worldie of a RB in the trent thread.
Good point, to help clear the confusion.
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It's quite confusing talking about a worldie of a RB in the trent thread.


Yeah. The above posts now make sense!
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