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Old 27-05-21, 10:00 AM   #2641
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How did BT sport think this was a good idea to tweet?

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Old 27-05-21, 01:49 PM   #2642
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It's all about clicks/shares/impressions though, isn't it? And from that perspective its doing its job.
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Old 27-05-21, 03:17 PM   #2643
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2018 was a total hack job. Injuring players as freely as Everton and not a word. That cup was ours.
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Old 27-05-21, 08:42 PM   #2644
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Total shite


I don't get the whole rethoric about if they signed Sancho then that would have made a huge difference. Almost like dildo hasn't been backed in the transfer market. They've spent more than fuckin anyone over the last 10 years or so. They go on about Citys bench..... In reality bailly and lindelof both cost big money. Fred cost big money. Pogba cost record levels in the UK. Maguire 85mil

They've just bought really shite.

Their net spend over the last 10 years is slightly less than City at just less than £1bn and they are complaining about lack of imvestment
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Old 27-05-21, 09:07 PM   #2645
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Their net spend over the last 10 years is slightly less than City at just less than £1bn and they are complaining about lack of imvestment
Are they?

Or are they complaining about chronic mismanagement and the fact that the owners have sucked a billion quid out of the club in interest payments?

It's subtle I know, but let's be fair.
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Old 27-05-21, 09:17 PM   #2646
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Are they?

Or are they complaining about chronic mismanagement and the fact that the owners have sucked a billion quid out of the club in interest payments?

It's subtle I know, but let's be fair.
Perhaps but would they be complaining If they’d won some silverware, a few PL titles for instance.

I have a feeling we’d be seeing far less complaining if that was the case
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Old 27-05-21, 09:22 PM   #2647
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Perhaps but would they be complaining If they’d won some silverware, a few PL titles for instance.



I have a feeling we’d be seeing far less complaining if that was the case
Do you think their point is unjustified?

And is it any different to our protests against Hicks and Gillette? Our protests were loud and vocal far before the magnitude of the financial situation was in the public domain.

Everyone should be united in campaigning to boot these blood sucking leaches out of the game regardless of who you support.
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Old 27-05-21, 09:50 PM   #2648
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Are they?

Or are they complaining about chronic mismanagement and the fact that the owners have sucked a billion quid out of the club in interest payments?

It's subtle I know, but let's be fair.


I always thought that was the case. It probably adds to their frustrations that they haven't won much since Fergie left, but the main essence is that the Glazier's manage United much like Hicks and Gillett used to do ours.
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Old 27-05-21, 10:13 PM   #2649
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Are they?

Or are they complaining about chronic mismanagement and the fact that the owners have sucked a billion quid out of the club in interest payments?

It's subtle I know, but let's be fair.
What does it matter if the owners take a billion quid out of the club when the club is competing on the field, has one of the very highest transfer budgets in Europe, is appointing popular managers etc? The lack of investment in the stadium I get, but what else makes that billion quid the difference between good and evil? They want another billion quid in the transfer budget so they can try and buy domination of the league, is that the righteous cause?

Their problem is that they share a city with City. The ridiculousness of Man City has been normalised to them because of the local exposure to financial doping and spending £50m each on the reserve side. Nobody can, nor should, try to emulate City, and I suspect it’s better for the game that that billion quid disappears across the Atlantic than gets ploughed into a local willy waving contest at the most privileged end of the premier league.
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Old 27-05-21, 10:33 PM   #2650
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What does it matter if the owners take a billion quid out for the club when the club is competing on the field, has one of the very highest transfer budgets in Europe, is appointing popular managers etc? The lack of investment in the stadium I get, but what else makes that billion quid the difference between good and evil? They want another billion quid in the transfer budget so they can try and buy domination of the league, is that the righteous cause?

Their problem is that they share a city with City. The ridiculousness of Man City has been normalised to them because of the local exposure to financial doping and spending £50 each on the reserve side. Nobody can, nor should, try to emulate City, and I suspect it’s better for the game that that billion quid disappears across the Atlantic than gets ploughed into a local willy waving contest at the most privileged end of the premier league.
It's an interesting perspective from a socialist, I'll give you that.
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Old 27-05-21, 11:55 PM   #2651
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Old 28-05-21, 08:19 AM   #2652
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I agree with Kenneth. Same as any business people only care about the financial structure when it is underperforming. We would have loved Hicks and Gillette (and we did for a bit when they signed Torres) if we had been winning titles. It was the financial crash in 2008/09 that hammered them and showed how leveraged their deal was. It’s a good point that they also now have to compare results with a team they used to dominate who now outperform them comprehensively in pretty much any area you choose to mention.

The Glazers deliver an elite transfer budget and sign top level players for Man U consistently. They seem to be lacking in football nouse (same as FSG) and the ability to recruit the right manager and sporting director.

They also appear reluctant to invest in the stadium.

If Utd win the League next year, other than the hardcore nobody will care about how leveraged the club is.
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Old 28-05-21, 08:50 AM   #2653
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Are they?

Or are they complaining about chronic mismanagement and the fact that the owners have sucked a billion quid out of the club in interest payments?

It's subtle I know, but let's be fair.
Well yes to be fair they are complaining about the mis-management of the club but one of the main examples that I have seen fans who have been interviewed on TV or complaining though other sources give is that the Glazers mis-management and taking money out of the club means that they can't compete in the transfer market (with City) and as a result they aren't challenging for the title etc. Which is clearly bollocks. They have spent vast amounts of money it's just that much of it has been wasted.

I agree that we as football fans don't want owners like the Glazers, and I said many times that us having been in the position of having shitty owners in H&G I have some sympathy. That said their situation is nowhere near as bad as ours was we were genuinely in danger of going bust, as far as I can tell that isn't the case for them. If it were as their net spend over the last few years wouldn't significantly out strip everyone in the league apart from City (and probably most teams in Europe too). They aren't exactly on skid row, which is no defence of the Glazers actions. Despite not liking their club I have no like or admiration etc for the Glazers. If their fans really feel that the owners are such a problem they needed to take action sooner, the Glazers have been running the club in this way for 15 years. Any sympathy I have is for those who have been fighting the Glazers ownership from the early days. IMO the motives of many of the more recent fans to join the protests have other motives IMO related to unhappiness about lack of success on the pitch and I suspect these are probably now the majority and are undermining the original message
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Old 29-05-21, 05:02 PM   #2654
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Old 29-05-21, 05:34 PM   #2655
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Old 29-05-21, 06:20 PM   #2656
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What a fan base ��
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Old 30-05-21, 04:23 AM   #2657
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What a fan base ��
It was just like that outside the Attaturk in '05
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Old 30-05-21, 09:06 AM   #2658
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Old 30-05-21, 11:04 AM   #2659
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I am somewhat disappointed this morning. Haven't seen any pics of City fans with champions league winners tattoos. We all know there are some out there - come on lads share with us
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Old 30-05-21, 08:45 PM   #2660
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I am somewhat disappointed this morning. Haven't seen any pics of City fans with champions league winners tattoos. We all know there are some out there - come on lads share with us
Funny you should mention it, just saw this:

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Old 30-05-21, 09:16 PM   #2661
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Old 04-06-21, 10:57 PM   #2662
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Morata getting abused by the Spain fans who booed their team off after the 0-0 friendly with Portugal.
“Morata, how bad you are!”
https://www.theguardian.com/football...-with-portugal

I wish England fans were more like this
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Old 04-06-21, 11:53 PM   #2663
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They’d only boo Morata if he was a Marxist.
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Old 05-06-21, 03:48 AM   #2664
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Morata is woeful. I cant believe he's in the squad to be honest. Spain are better off with Moreno and then two others all switching positions and passing teams off the park. Don't understand their obsession with trying to have a proper number 9 in there when the only one you have is shit
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Old 11-06-21, 10:32 AM   #2665
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I was wondering about him & his goals against us in that CL quarterfinal match with Atletico Madrid last year! How the fuck he scored 2 goals in that match then it dawned on me...Adrian in goal!
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Old 13-06-21, 11:25 AM   #2666
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Youngest son Thom, had game this morning. Rough-ish town outside of Edinburgh. Thom in goals.

Other team clearly older and bigger. Thom’s team are very small (except Thom he is really tall) but quite feisty. Kid who scored a few goals for other team celebrating like he’s winning the World Cup. We were about 4 nil down in 10 minutes.

The annoying celebrating kid scored and one of the feisty kids from our team chased after him. Kicked him, swore at him. Got dragged off him. Broke free, chased again, Kung fu kicked him in the back. The kids mum came on, got told to ‘fuck off’ etc. as the kid left the pitch he gave her ‘the bird’ backwards as he was escorted off the pitch. Parents raging.

This was under 10’s at 9am on a Sunday grass roots footy in East Lothian FTW

Thom got a deserved MOTM in an 11-2 defeat.
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Old 13-06-21, 12:47 PM   #2668
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Old 13-06-21, 02:40 PM   #2669
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Old 14-06-21, 10:48 AM   #2671
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The only way to sort it out at that age is to let it be as whatever happens, happens! ...they learn from it after a couple of pints afterwards with their parents!
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