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Old 04-03-21, 11:29 PM   #8361
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Weíre juggling an intense schedule, tired/out of form players, injured players, players returning from injury.

Subbing Mo off and bringing Milner on when weíre chasing the game may look mad. But itís not always as black and white as it can seem to us. We have to remember that Klopp and the coaching staff are making their decisions with far more information than we have.
Yeah, but those decisions are literally losing us games. So they are poor decisions. You can use all that if its working, but if it leaves Salah getting hooked in a game against our closest (pre match) competitor then its madness.

Salah is the only goal scorer we have. He should be getting saved for these games, not subbed.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:30 PM   #8362
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Just for the record (people are keeping count) I dont want Klopp out.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:35 PM   #8363
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No, I was making a statement about how abysmal the team is......

Anyways Iím outta here....enjoy the Fulham debacle.....Iím done with wasting 2 hours of my life every few days.....
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Old 04-03-21, 11:36 PM   #8364
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Yeah, but those decisions are literally losing us games. So they are poor decisions. You can use all that if its working, but if it leaves Salah getting hooked in a game against our closest (pre match) competitor then its madness.

Salah is the only goal scorer we have. He should be getting saved for these games, not subbed.
Suggestion by some journo on twitter was that he was subbed because Klopp screamed at him to chase back and he jogged, then was hooked for it. Nobody knows for sure of course.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:36 PM   #8365
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Old 04-03-21, 11:36 PM   #8366
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Yeah, but those decisions are literally losing us games. So they are poor decisions. You can use all that if its working, but if it leaves Salah getting hooked in a game against our closest (pre match) competitor then its madness.

Salah is the only goal scorer we have. He should be getting saved for these games, not subbed.
We canít judge whether itís working purely on results. We want Mo on the pitch as much as possible. Mo has played almost 3000 mins already this season. We wanted him to start tonight. We wanted him to start against Sheff Utd. We wanted him to start the games before that. We want him available for the next game too. In that respect, itís working.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:37 PM   #8367
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Suggestion by some journo on twitter was that he was subbed because Klopp screamed at him to chase back and he jogged, then was hooked for it. Nobody knows for sure of course.
That would not be a good sign.

Makes you wonder though. Maybe some things are already decided for the summer?
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Old 04-03-21, 11:37 PM   #8368
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Suggestion by some journo on twitter was that he was subbed because Klopp screamed at him to chase back and he jogged, then was hooked for it. Nobody knows for sure of course.
That would be shocking as he was busting his lungs from the first minute out there.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:37 PM   #8369
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Weíve all been there. I like Assmaniac and he has my sympathy. Iíve been saying i wonít bother with the next match for ages now so I wonít say it again but I could be saving myself a lot of £ cancelling the sport channels now.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:38 PM   #8370
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Suggestion by some journo on twitter was that he was subbed because Klopp screamed at him to chase back and he jogged, then was hooked for it. Nobody knows for sure of course.
Must be right if itís on Twitter.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:39 PM   #8371
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Weíve all been there. I like Assmaniac and he has my sympathy. Iíve been saying i wonít bother with the next match for ages now so I wonít say it again but I could be saving myself a lot of £ cancelling the sport channels now.
I thought he was saying he was wasting 2hrs on Est. I get it now
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Old 04-03-21, 11:41 PM   #8372
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Suggestion by some journo on twitter was that he was subbed because Klopp screamed at him to chase back and he jogged, then was hooked for it. Nobody knows for sure of course.
If that is the case, he just cut his nose off to spite his face. Taking our only goal scorer off when you need a goal is stupid.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:41 PM   #8373
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Weíve all been there. I like Assmaniac and he has my sympathy. Iíve been saying i wonít bother with the next match for ages now so I wonít say it again but I could be saving myself a lot of £ cancelling the sport channels now.
I don't watch the sky games anymore. If we're on bt I'll watch otherwise, no thanks.
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If that is the case, he just cut his nose off to spite his face. Taking our only goal scorer off when you need a goal is stupid.
I'm guessing he is going to get asked about this. Earliest Salah has been hooked since we lost 5-0 to City in 2018 apparently.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:44 PM   #8375
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I'm guessing he is going to get asked about this. Earliest Salah has been hooked since we lost 5-0 to City in 2018 apparently.
Yeah 100% going to get questioned on it. Short of Mo being injured which didn't look the case judging by his reaction, it was bad managerial decision imo.
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Old 04-03-21, 11:46 PM   #8376
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Old 04-03-21, 11:51 PM   #8377
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Mo looked fresher than Bobby and Mane.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:00 AM   #8378
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Listening to Klopp, he looks dejected and is just babbling. He should just send out Pep.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:03 AM   #8379
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I think he was very honest. He does lack all of the energy that the team feed off though. I think Bob has it right, no crowds is kryptonite for Klopp.

He is out thinking himself though.

Robbo giving it straight.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:03 AM   #8380
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Mo looked fresher than Bobby and Mane.
From where we were sat, yeah.
But we donít see half the things that the bench see.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:06 AM   #8381
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From where we were sat, yeah.
But we donít see half the things that the bench see.


Your not backing down from this are you? Even Klopp admitted he could have taken Mane or Firmino off.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:07 AM   #8382
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Your not backing down from this are you? Even Klopp admitted he could have taken Mane or Firmino off.
he actually said those exact words.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:08 AM   #8383
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Your not backing down from this are you? Even Klopp admitted he could have taken Mane or Firmino off.
Yeah, but said he took Mo off because he looked the one who was most feeling the intensity
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Old 05-03-21, 12:14 AM   #8384
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Yeah, but said he took Mo off because he looked the one who was most feeling the intensity
But using his what he saw, not any stats. It was the wrong decision.

Anyways, onwards and... upwards???

I promise I am not watching if it is Curtis/Thiago/and Gini in midfield.
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Old 05-03-21, 12:15 AM   #8385
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Did he really say this?!

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Old 05-03-21, 12:18 AM   #8386
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But using his what he saw, not any stats. It was the wrong decision.
You said you didnít want decisions based on stats, you wanted them on what the eyes saw

Either way, the reasons for subbing him were the same.
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He was just babbling but yup I did think he said that.
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Old 05-03-21, 07:14 AM   #8388
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If the training looks really good but the football in games remains absolutely shite then there is something wrong with the training.
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Old 05-03-21, 07:21 AM   #8389
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Haha, yeah. He feeds off the crowd. He is making some random decisions though.

I must admit the whole thing feels like a charade.
Does he have a crowd when he's working in the office or on the training pitch?
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Old 05-03-21, 07:47 AM   #8390
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I feel he really needs to change things up, for God's sake play two CB's in defence, play Fabinho midfield as DM as he can help them out when we don't have the ball if the partnership is struggling there and would at least give extra numbers there. I'd be tempted to play Wijnaldum and Keita in midfield with him. Yes Naby blows hot and cold but he looks to create stuff and plays on the front foot, he is also probably our biggest goal threat from midfield. Both Mane and Bobby have been woefully off form recently one of them needs to be dropped to accommodate Jota, personally I'd go with Mane, Salah and Jota as that is the biggest goal threat, but Mane probably needs a rest too as he looks knackered. Same applies to Robertson he looks out on his feet, Tsimikas has barely played though, I'd be tempted to give Robbo the next game off.
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Old 05-03-21, 08:09 AM   #8392
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Depressing as fuck this morning. I feel really low, can't imagine how Klopp and the players are feeling.

I just can't see them turning things around.
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Old 05-03-21, 09:31 AM   #8393
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Depressing as fuck this morning. I feel really low, can't imagine how Klopp and the players are feeling.

I just can't see them turning things around.
Worst case scenario now - top four is gone, we won't string a run of games together, we can all see that now. If we scrape into Europa... wow, that'll be fucking worse than not being in it at all... it's like being in the Johnstone Paint Trophy. Only useful if he rests the entire first eleven and plays the kids/ressies...
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Apparently there's some fucking Europa Conference League next season too, some new bollocks. If you're out of the Europa League, you end up in that. Third tier European competition. Absolute joke.
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Old 05-03-21, 09:55 AM   #8395
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No one will be taking the piss if we are in that. Defo not.
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That would be shocking as he was busting his lungs from the first minute out there.
If that's true then he probably needed to come off anyway, sounds like he'd run himself into the ground.
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Apparently there's some fucking Europa Conference League next season too, some new bollocks. If you're out of the Europa League, you end up in that. Third tier European competition. Absolute joke.
Yeah, but isn't it Wed night games, so not the end of the world & also the teams in it will be shockers
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Yeah, but isn't it Wed night games, so not the end of the world & also the teams in it will be shockers
Would rather just fuck that level of competition off though.

Players rest most midweeks. Keep them fresh for what i hope is a title challenge
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i agree, but Klopp wont see it like that ( Or stevie G.......hahaha)
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