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28-11-19, 04:51 PM
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The verdict is what it is, a jury decision on specific charges. It's tragic that he hasn't been held responsible for his clear failings in any meaningful way, whether manslaughter or not.
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28-11-19, 04:55 PM
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Fucking cunt
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28-11-19, 05:14 PM
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That's that then 96 people were found to have been unlawfully killed but no one is to blame. Fuck right off.
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28-11-19, 05:49 PM
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28-11-19, 05:57 PM
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The trial gave everyone hope though 
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28-11-19, 05:59 PM
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The moment he wasnt convicted first time round it made this one more likely I personally felt the chances of him being convicted were slim
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28-11-19, 07:19 PM
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I heard the judges summing up and his guidance to the jury yesterday and kind of guessed the rest.
Please dont convict my mate who is also a mason etc... 
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28-11-19, 07:42 PM
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if 96 coppers died someone would carry the can if 96 middle class kids died someone would carry the can so not shocked by this in any way
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28-11-19, 09:24 PM
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There's some really nasty comments on the internet tonight. Fans getting blamed again.
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28-11-19, 09:33 PM
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Just look what is needed to show a guilty negligence mansalughter it's a very high bar I didnt fancy a guilty vedict even before it went to trial
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28-11-19, 09:40 PM
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Margaret Aspinall is absolutely incredible. It's heartbreaking how fucking amazing she manages to be.
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28-11-19, 09:41 PM
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I was at Hillsborough and was in the crush outside the Leppings Lane End Not a day goes by that I am not grateful for surviving that and it was literally by the scruff of my collar that I didnt end up down that tunnel One of my mates who I played footie with died there The inquest verdict was huge for me, I felt the stuff I had been saying for years to accuses was thoroughly vindicated The trials gave the families hope but it was always a long shot imo
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28-11-19, 09:42 PM
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28-11-19, 09:51 PM
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To be honest I would have been very surprised if he was found guilty, so am not surprised at the verdict. Personally I just don't think that there is enough proof that he was solely responsible and that his incompetence wasn't caused by a lack of training etc where it could be argued that he ultimately wasn't responsible (or at least that could be argued).
I imagine that a charge of corporate manslaughter against South Yorkshire Police would be successful if one could be brought, but this isn't possible because such a law didn't exist in 1989. The families have to work within this framework, so ultimately I think we are going to be left with the situation where 96 people were unlawfully killed, but no-one will ever be held responsible.
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28-11-19, 10:06 PM
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28-11-19, 10:12 PM
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It should not be about responsibility but accountability. As the senior police officer in charge, he was accountable certainly for the Police actions on the day and arguably for the coordination of all the emergency services along with oversight of the stewards too.
So Duckenfield was the sole accountable individual on the day 96 people were unlawfully killed.... For me anything less than a custodial sentence for this self confessed liar is criminal.
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28-11-19, 11:17 PM
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Daddy day care
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The alteration of police pocket (evidence) books and statements has conveniently been swept then.
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28-11-19, 11:32 PM
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29-11-19, 12:10 AM
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29-11-19, 12:19 AM
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I fully expected this. It doesn't ease the disappointment but I would have been shocked if he had been found guilty
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29-11-19, 12:36 AM
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What I don't understand is I thought the inquest in 2016 found him guilty to a criminal standard? Didn't he even admit it was his fault?
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29-11-19, 12:37 AM
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Double post.
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29-11-19, 12:38 AM
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Duckenfield at the Warrington inquests in 2016 admitting culpability. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00001898873567
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29-11-19, 10:01 AM
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Tories looking after their own as do not want their "queen" Thatcher legacy tarnished!
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04-12-19, 02:54 AM
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For anyone looking for a summary, this is excellent. Traumatic, but excellent...
https://www.theguardian.com/football...weekly-special |
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25-02-20, 01:41 PM
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26-02-20, 12:37 AM
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Click the tweet and watch the video too. Remarkable woman 
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15-04-20, 10:21 AM
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Ynwa
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15-04-20, 11:35 AM
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15-04-20, 11:36 AM
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Hillsborough: Minute's silence to mark anniversary of disaster
Liverpool players, staff and supporters will observe a minute's silence later to remember fans who lost their lives in the Hillsborough disaster. Ninety-six men, women and children died when a crush developed during the FA Cup semi-final on 15 April 1989. A final memorial service was due to be held at Anfield on the 31st anniversary of the tragedy but had to be postponed due to the coronavirus pandemic. The silence will be held at 15:06 BST, the time the match was halted. A date for a full service will be confirmed in the "near future", the club said. Liverpool FC said players and staff would observe the silence and flags would be flown at half mast throughout the day in memory of those who died in the UK's worst sporting disaster.
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15-04-20, 12:19 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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31 years ago
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15-04-20, 12:32 PM
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