22-12-10, 02:15 AM
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Dalglish
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The Bears offer no threat what so ever in the playoffs. Very oridinary team playing slightly above themselves. The defense is good and not great, Cutler is good and not great and the offensive line is mediocre at best.
The NFC top 4 - the Saints, Falcons, Eagles and Giants are way ahead of the pack in that division.
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29-09-12, 03:51 PM
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#82
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Dalglish
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Old thread bump.
I now have ESPN America and am getting pretty into college football. Love how Americans make a day out of their sports, I'm whiling away a lazy saturday with it on the box.
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30-09-12, 01:49 PM
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#83
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Bloody Refs!!
I follow the Pats. Bill should have snapped the arm off the ref last week.
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04-10-12, 10:46 AM
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Dalglish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulg
Old thread bump.
I now have ESPN America and am getting pretty into college football. Love how Americans make a day out of their sports, I'm whiling away a lazy saturday with it on the box.
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They know how to do it, if you ever get the option to go to a tailgate party do it!
Chargers fan
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04-10-12, 02:05 PM
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Dalglish
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That's what struck me, some of the tailgate areas were wicked. BBQs running off the back of a truck, marquee to keep sun / rain off and plasma tvs showing the games. I love how they went all the way to the ground, knowing they wouldn't get in but solely to have a great time and join in the atmosphere.
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04-10-12, 03:36 PM
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Dalglish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulg
That's what struck me, some of the tailgate areas were wicked. BBQs running off the back of a truck, marquee to keep sun / rain off and plasma tvs showing the games. I love how they went all the way to the ground, knowing they wouldn't get in but solely to have a great time and join in the atmosphere.
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Agreed - It's the atmosphere that's amazing to be in! When the NFL comes to Wembley there's a free one in the car park which is always pretty good! Cheerleaders galore etc!
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08-10-12, 12:17 AM
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#87
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Des Lynam
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New England trying to throw this away.
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08-10-12, 12:20 AM
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Des Lynam
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But that fumble by the Broncos should seal it.
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09-10-12, 10:05 AM
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Dalglish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carras_Shin_Pads
Agreed - It's the atmosphere that's amazing to be in! When the NFL comes to Wembley there's a free one in the car park which is always pretty good! Cheerleaders galore etc!
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Really? It would be worth going just for that.
Unfortunately, I don't have Sky anymore so can't see NFL games. College and Canadian is what I'm seeing. It's great for having on in the background, whiling away a day. Love it.
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16-12-12, 10:07 PM
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Paisley
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Peterson has run for 212 yards today (still a couple of minutes left in the game)
Very good chance that he'll break Dickerson's record this season.
Remarkable acheivement in itself however keep in mind that he's only 11 months removed from tearing both his ACL and MCL
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17-12-12, 12:41 AM
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Prosecco Socialist
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I heard them mention his injury on the commentary today. His recovery is incredible.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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18-12-12, 01:58 PM
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Dalglish
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Wow, I remember when Dickerson set that record.
Nice to see "Johnny Football" win the Heismann. What an athlete he is.
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24-12-12, 02:16 PM
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Prosecco Socialist
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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24-12-12, 06:19 PM
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Benitez
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Young
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Saw the hat, missed the cup cakes though  When those two are on they never fail to make me laugh.
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25-12-12, 01:42 PM
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Prosecco Socialist
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Yeah, they're brilliant.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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31-12-12, 02:31 AM
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Chief Scout
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Adrian Peterson came so close to break Eric Dickerson 28-year old rushing record.
He was only 9 yards short
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31-12-12, 05:56 AM
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I honestly don't care about American football in the slightest but the general mood over here can only be described as pandemonium (the good kind?) because the Redskins are headed for the playoffs... which for anyone from Washington, DC is a very, very, very, very rare and noteworthy occasion. The Redskins have previously tended to be utterly wank, put simply.
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31-12-12, 09:23 AM
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Dalglish
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I was a Redskins fan in my youth and remember that the only times, in recent history, that they have won a superbowl has been in a year of player strikes. In other words, they can't win anything over a full season
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31-12-12, 05:39 PM
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Chief Scout
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marina
I honestly don't care about American football in the slightest but the general mood over here can only be described as pandemonium (the good kind?) because the Redskins are headed for the playoffs... which for anyone from Washington, DC is a very, very, very, very rare and noteworthy occasion. The Redskins have previously tended to be utterly wank, put simply.
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They have young and very exciting quarterback but they are far from being a team capable of going to Super Bowl.
Getting into playoffs is a big accomplishment for them as they have not enjoyed any post season success for a long time.
That said, there are tons of teams this year that quite easily could go all the way and I personally expect very interesting and entertaining next few weeks.
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08-01-13, 09:40 AM
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Dalglish
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One of the things I admire about the NFL is how the draft process enables smaller teams to get success, over a short period of time. Some of the teams in this year's play offs were way off, a short time ago. The Texans haven't been in business that long, really. It's refreshing to see different teams do well and must give every player a boost knowing they could be in with a chance in a few years.
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08-01-13, 01:20 PM
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Paisley
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The revenue sharing does more for the small teams. Green Bay is a town of 100,000. Nothing like the market of the east coast or Texas teams. Before revenue sharing, in the 1980s, the big market NFC teams dominated.
If you look at the Texans, a lot if their key players weren't top ten draft picks. Andre Johnson was. He was a stud in the national title winning Miami side and went number three overall, and is kind if the face of the franchise as he has played his whole career there. But Schaub was a trade from Atlanta. Arian Foster was an undrafted free agent.
A sensible front office, stability, and good trades are probably more important than high draft picks. The draft is obviously essential as it is basically the only source of young players, but you don't need the number one pick to rebuild. Hell, the new Cleveland Browns have had eight top ten first round picks in the 14 years they've been operating. Still shit.
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09-01-13, 07:21 PM
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Chief Scout
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollowman
The revenue sharing does more for the small teams. Green Bay is a town of 100,000. Nothing like the market of the east coast or Texas teams. Before revenue sharing, in the 1980s, the big market NFC teams dominated.
If you look at the Texans, a lot if their key players weren't top ten draft picks. Andre Johnson was. He was a stud in the national title winning Miami side and went number three overall, and is kind if the face of the franchise as he has played his whole career there. But Schaub was a trade from Atlanta. Arian Foster was an undrafted free agent.
A sensible front office, stability, and good trades are probably more important than high draft picks. The draft is obviously essential as it is basically the only source of young players, but you don't need the number one pick to rebuild. Hell, the new Cleveland Browns have had eight top ten first round picks in the 14 years they've been operating. Still shit.
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Even though I agree about benefits of revenue sharing expecially for small teams Green Bay Packers are not good example as they are far from being a small franchise.
They are iconic team (Won the first Super Bowl, their coach Vince Lombardi is the best known football coach of all time, have record of 13 NFL world championships etc.) and they have tremendous fan base(according to many surveys only Cowboys and possibly Steelers have more fans overall but they are number #1 in terms of loyalty and knowledge) outside Green Bay community.
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09-01-13, 08:03 PM
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Paisley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mostar
Even though I agree about benefits of revenue sharing expecially for small teams Green Bay Packers are not good example as they are far from being a small franchise.
They are iconic team (Won the first Super Bowl, their coach Vince Lombardi is the best known football coach of all time, have record of 13 NFL world championships etc.) and they have tremendous fan base(according to many surveys only Cowboys and possibly Steelers have more fans overall but they are number #1 in terms of loyalty and knowledge) outside Green Bay community.
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No, it was the perfect example. You're talking about their popularity NOW, with the new TV era and post-Favre. That's with hindsight. Fact is, they wouldn't have been able to compete had the first television contracts the NFL signed not been equitably split up across the franchises - in the early 1960s there is no way their local Wisconsin market would have allowed them to compete financially. No way. They've sold out home games since Lombardi, but the Cheesehead diaspora (much like today's widespread support for any franchise) is a result of TV exposure, which is now relative to success.
Green Bay would never have become the Green Bay they are today without the first revenue sharing agreement. They'd be like Sunderland, or Sheffield Wednesday, or Huddersfield - loads of success years ago, but unable to compete in the modern game. When revenue sharing first came in, the Packers hadn't won a title in like fifteen years. Lombardi arrives, then in 1960 the pie starts getting cut up evenly, and the Packers win some more titles. But they've only won two post-merger superbowls. They were shit again for like twenty five years after Lombardi left.
They'd probably still be shit but for two things - the '93 FA ruling and the '94 CBA which came to govern free agency and the salary cap. That was the first salary cap and it allowed teams to compete fairly (look at the teams who won the superbowl in the 1980s - this was when big time money first started coming in and the massive market NFC teams totally dominated. They won 13 consecutive superbowls - and 15 out of 16 - from the mid eighties to the Packers winning in 1997, and the 14 prior to the Packers win were shared by 6 big city teams). And like the first revenue sharing deal coinciding with Lombardi, the wage cap coincided with Favre. And the FA ruling allowed them to sign Reggie White. And today they're really, really fucking popular.
But they wouldn't have been. Revenue sharing and collective bargaining.
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09-01-13, 09:39 PM
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Paisley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollowman
No, it was the perfect example. You're talking about their popularity NOW, with the new TV era and post-Favre. That's with hindsight. Fact is, they wouldn't have been able to compete had the first television contracts the NFL signed not been equitably split up across the franchises - in the early 1960s there is no way their local Wisconsin market would have allowed them to compete financially. No way. They've sold out home games since Lombardi, but the Cheesehead diaspora (much like today's widespread support for any franchise) is a result of TV exposure, which is now relative to success.
Green Bay would never have become the Green Bay they are today without the first revenue sharing agreement. They'd be like Sunderland, or Sheffield Wednesday, or Huddersfield - loads of success years ago, but unable to compete in the modern game. When revenue sharing first came in, the Packers hadn't won a title in like fifteen years. Lombardi arrives, then in 1960 the pie starts getting cut up evenly, and the Packers win some more titles. But they've only won two post-merger superbowls. They were shit again for like twenty five years after Lombardi left.
They'd probably still be shit but for two things - the '93 FA ruling and the '94 CBA which came to govern free agency and the salary cap. That was the first salary cap and it allowed teams to compete fairly (look at the teams who won the superbowl in the 1980s - this was when big time money first started coming in and the massive market NFC teams totally dominated. They won 13 consecutive superbowls - and 15 out of 16 - from the mid eighties to the Packers winning in 1997, and the 14 prior to the Packers win were shared by 6 big city teams). And like the first revenue sharing deal coinciding with Lombardi, the wage cap coincided with Favre. And the FA ruling allowed them to sign Reggie White. And today they're really, really fucking popular.
But they wouldn't have been. Revenue sharing and collective bargaining.
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About as a comprehensive 'bitch slap' as you're ever likely to see on the entire internets.
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12-01-13, 11:01 PM
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Des Lynam
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Bit of a mental start to this Ravens v Broncos game
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13-01-13, 09:24 PM
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Est's Streaker
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Go Falcons!
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13-01-13, 10:04 PM
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Paisley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helios Creed
Go Falcons!
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fuckin' Whoops!
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13-01-13, 10:11 PM
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Paisley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
fuckin' Whoops!
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Possibly not.
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13-01-13, 10:12 PM
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#109
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Des Lynam
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What was that kick off all about.?
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13-01-13, 10:29 PM
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Est's Streaker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
Possibly not. 
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not excatly sure what happened, but it was pretty exciting - thought for a minute that the curse of me rooting for a team had struck again...
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18-01-13, 09:08 PM
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21-01-13, 11:28 AM
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The one year I start to take interest and choose a team, they lose in the Play offs and fail to make the Super Bowl. Go Patriots!!!
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21-01-13, 11:33 AM
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Paisley
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You deserve that for choosing the Patriots.
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21-01-13, 11:36 AM
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Picked a name out of the hat. Sometimes greatness is thrust upon us. Not this time though.
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03-02-13, 02:49 PM
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Passion for fire alarms or extinguishers?
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Super Bowl Sunday!
Every year I see more and more people getting excited by this, the glitzy adverts look good, and I watched a warm up show on sky sports before and it looked exciting with everyone buzzing around New Orleans,
And so every year I decide, I am going to sit down and watch the "biggest sporting event of the year" to see what the fuss is about, for various reasons, prob due to it being on late and I fall asleep during the zillion adverts in the build up, I never do
So this year, I will again make an effort to see what the fuss is about, anyone else watching it
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03-02-13, 03:23 PM
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Chief Scout
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Would love to see Ray Lewis finish his career with another Super Bowl ring.
So Ravens for me.
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03-02-13, 03:32 PM
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Des Lynam
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PTP
Super Bowl Sunday!
Every year I see more and more people getting excited by this, the glitzy adverts look good, and I watched a warm up show on sky sports before and it looked exciting with everyone buzzing around New Orleans,
And so every year I decide, I am going to sit down and watch the "biggest sporting event of the year" to see what the fuss is about, for various reasons, prob due to it being on late and I fall asleep during the zillion adverts in the build up, I never do
So this year, I will again make an effort to see what the fuss is about, anyone else watching it 
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Like every year I will have the intention of watching it and then bail at halftime having fallen asleep on the sofa
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04-02-13, 12:43 AM
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Des Lynam
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Nice start from the Ravens
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04-02-13, 12:44 AM
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Passion for fire alarms or extinguishers?
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I'm still up watching..they love the cheesy shit the Americans  have to say, would love to go to a Super Bowl week, bet the atmosphere and parties are amazing
And score to the ravens touchdown in the end zone
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04-02-13, 12:51 AM
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Des Lynam
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The parties must be mental.
Bet everyone accepts you go to work cunted on a Monday.
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