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Old 14-02-21, 07:05 PM   #4721
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And so to part 2.

As a neutral Sco v Wal was really enjoyable. I do find it a little weird though that 2 teams who looked so bereft of attacking ability in the Autumn both now look so potent.

Ali P actually did ok this week (not sure if it's just the 'one swallow' thing but anyway ) and his chip through for the try was a clever piece of play.

Scotland seem much more at home with their game plan and at times their phases were as good as you'll see. Even after ZF's sending off they looked like a top rugby team with belief in what they were doing and how they were doing it. Not sure if that's all come from the one game against England or a general evolution and backed up by guys like Hogg and Gray playing for a top team now?

The sending off was obviously pivotal or at least appeared to be although the penalty at the very end could have gone either way. At least it appeared that way. A camera angle from the other side would have been far more useful in determining it.

The sending off was a bit 50:50 although on balance probably the right call if the IRB want to be consistent in the message they send out. It certainly ticked the the Law 9.20 rule boxes as a sending off offence.

I've always though ZF is a bit prone to entering rucks recklessly and there was just no point to what he did - even if he hadn't connected with WJ. I agree Karl Dickson did offer a word of caution (a bit ironic for anyone who has ever seen Karl Dickson referee ) but what probably didn't help the cause was the fact that Jones fell back clutching his head.

Anyhow it makes the 6N more interesting (I know that won't make you feel any happier Buzzo), they'll just need to go and get a result in France which I think they're actually capable of if they stick to what they've done well so far.
Yeah, that is pretty fair also. We were good,, Wales stayed in the game. The try before half time for them was massive.

The sending off changed the game, I think we would have won without it, and came very close anyway. I felt it was a bit harsh. Jones lifted his head just as Fagerson hit, which made it look worse. I think the thing that worked against Fagerson was how far he came in from, but I must admit it looked like a yellow to me. If these are going to get given as reds, we will start to see a lot more reds given, or a fundamental change to clear outs and rucks (which is I suppose the intention).

If that was a red, then Darcy Graham was taken out in the air by 1/2p and Williams was lucky with some leading elbows.

Scotland wise, I think we are seeing an evolution. The realisation after the World Cup was that we cant just play teams off the pitch throwing the ball around. Our kicking has improved immesurably, meaning we are playing with the ball in the right areas. We do have more strength indepth, but you could see the gaps yesterday. Jamie Ritchie was a big miss the step down from him to Blade Thomson was massive, then he went off and Gary Graham came on with top billing and gave away continual pens. I wonder what has happened to Sam Skinner? He can fill in on the back row. Our line out was exceptional against England and was back to mediocre yesterday.

We look so powerful though, and I hope we can keep this level of focus and control. It was a sore defeat, mainly because we played really well. Hogg is playing as well as he ever has, and the forwards are giving the backs good ball (Price was great!) Russell is playing smart Rugby and his kicking game is immense.

It should be a good game vs the French. Just watching the game vs Ireland and it was very scruffy in the last 20. A lot off effort going in though. France look great, but, there will be opportunities. And, are they an 80 minute team?

Could be similar to Twickenham and the lack of crowd could help us. Dupont is immense though, I love watching him play.
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Old 14-02-21, 07:26 PM   #4722
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Not sure if that's all come from the one game against England or a general evolution and backed up by guys like Hogg and Gray playing for a top team now?
No doubt this has been huge. Both players have improved from a pretty impressive starting point.
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Old 14-02-21, 10:48 PM   #4723
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. If these are going to get given as reds, we will start to see a lot more reds given, or a fundamental change to clear outs and rucks (which is I suppose the intention).

Well I think that's basically it - certainly when they came back from lockdown at the end of last season in the Premiership the refereeing of the ruck was far more stringent. It's become a little bit more lax as the weeks have passed but sending offs for that type of offence are not uncommon.

Leaving aside that I've seen ZF enter rucks a bit too keenly in the past, I think given the analysis that International sides do these days, it would have been naive by GT etc not to have spoken to the Scottish players about ruck safety / refereeing in the build up. Anyone who's watched a few Prem' games would have made the same point that I've just done.



Gary Graham came on with top billing and gave away continual pens. I wonder what has happened to Sam Skinner? He can fill in on the back row. Our line out was exceptional against England and was back to mediocre yesterday.

GG was excellent for about half a season a couple of years back when England also got interested IIRC but broadly he's pretty average IMO. I'm not too sad he opted for Scotland Personally I'd go for SS every time. Never flamboyant but always 7 or 8 out of 10 and solid.

It should be a good game vs the French. Just watching the game vs Ireland and it was very scruffy in the last 20. A lot off effort going in though. France look great, but, there will be opportunities. And, are they an 80 minute team?

Got to move their bigs lads around IMO. Defensively they're good but equally you know exactly how they will defend under Sean Edwards. I didn't think Ireland had spent enough time thinking about their attack lines today and they let France defend out to in exactly the way they wanted to

Could be similar to Twickenham and the lack of crowd could help us. Dupont is immense though, I love watching him play.
Agreed SDF empty is a lot different to full I should imagine. There may not have been an opportunity like this for quite a long time - if ever. Scotland just need to remember what they are good at and not get flustered when France do something outrageous which they no doubt will at some point.
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Old 17-02-21, 09:11 PM   #4724
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I read this yesterday then forgot about it

But I've popped down here because I thought you would have been all over it Mr Buzzworth

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56092322

Scotland prop Zander Fagerson will miss the rest of the Six Nations following his red card against Wales.

Fagerson was punished for a dangerous clearout after his shoulder connected with Wyn Jones' head at the breakdown and has been banned for four weeks.

Scotland lost 25-24, having led by two points when he was sent off.

The 25-year-old - likely to be in coach Warren Gatland's thoughts for the British and Irish Lions - misses games against France, Ireland and Italy.

An independent disciplinary committee deemed the foul play warranted a mid-range entry point - a six-week suspension - but reduced that by two weeks to account for mitigating factors, including his admission of foul play and a good disciplinary record.

Fagerson has the right to appeal.
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I saw that. It’s a tough one, but in the spirit of the new law I guess he can have no complaints. I think it was soft, but he ran in from so far away he gave the ref a decision to make. If he’s stopped or made more of an effort to wrap his arm he might have gotten away with it. We can’t all be immune to red cards like Owen Farrell.

I listened to the Rugby Pod with Jim Hamilton and Andy Goode and they covered all aspects of the six n’s including this really well. They also covered how unfortunate Italy were with decisions (Farrell, the fact Daly’s try shouldn’t have stood etc). It’s a good listen.

You should check it out

https://play.acast.com/s/therugbypod...ammit-noparty-
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Bad news for the French.

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France scrum-half Antoine Dupont has tested positive for Covid-19, just over a week before the Six Nations meeting with Scotland in Paris.

Dupont, Six Nations player of the year in 2020, missed the wins over Italy and Ireland with a hamstring problem.

The French Rugby Federation announced his positive test on Friday, with 11 other players testing negative.

All members of the 31-man squad have been tested, with the other results not yet known.

Head coach Fabien Galthie and assistant William Servat tested positive earlier this week and have been isolating.
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And good news for the Scots

Just need him to have infected a couple of others . .
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And good news for the Scots

Just need him to have infected a couple of others . .
Big time!

Hes a phenomenal player. Shame to not see him play though, and they will still have quality no matter how many injuries. - hell be back in time for all the other games!
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Looks like the game is in doubt on Sunday with the amount of players with Covid.

However if it is rearranged we will be without Finn, Hogg, Gray, Harris etc. etc. because we only have release clauses with the non Scottish Clubs for the designated weekends.

A shit show.
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France v Scotland postponed due to Covid outbreak in the French squad.

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