23-08-20, 07:54 AM
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Benitez
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 609
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Originally Posted by ChesterDave
Did we not sell the whole contract to that investment firm?
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23-08-20, 01:37 PM
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#922
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Paisley
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 24,865
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It was reported last Autumn in the Barca accounts that Liverpool sold their interest so Barca now owe someone else.
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23-08-20, 02:24 PM
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#923
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Benitez
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 609
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Didn't even know that was possible
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23-08-20, 02:27 PM
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#924
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Dan Ashcroft
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 51,684
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It's essentially just a form of credit/invoice factoring.
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23-08-20, 03:23 PM
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#925
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 33,376
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Sounds like it. We get say 80% of the money due and the finance company pursue the whole amount ending up with 20%
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23-08-20, 04:32 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,213
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I'd suggest its for the base fee, add ons cant be financed as you cant be sure they will be reached, and as such would be out scope of invoice financing. Financing fee would have been around 1-3%, but again dependent on Barca credit lines/status. Given EUR interest rates is less than 0% makes sense to park some money an an almost guaranteed return.
Ironic tho, getting EUR5m from Barca when he wins the CL with Bayern
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23-08-20, 05:08 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 8,332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deano
I'd suggest its for the base fee, add ons cant be financed as you cant be sure they will be reached, and as such would be out scope of invoice financing. Financing fee would have been around 1-3%, but again dependent on Barca credit lines/status. Given EUR interest rates is less than 0% makes sense to park some money an an almost guaranteed return.
Ironic tho, getting EUR5m from Barca when he wins the CL with Bayern
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I'm sure there would be some vehicle to make it possible.
Work out the probabilities of him hitting each of the targets over the course of the contract and charge a premium on that.
It's basically EV calcs in gambling.
Some poker software actually offers you an in game cashout before the board has been completed with their cut factored in for cash games.
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Last edited by fidget; 23-08-20 at 05:13 PM.
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23-08-20, 10:40 PM
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Dalglish
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,304
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As much as it pains me to say, our recent high profile departures are all kind of justified and most of them have won the lot since leaving. Obviously it doesn't matter because we won the CL last season and the league now but I was looking at the trophy collections of some of our best players and the amount of silverware they've won is astounding. Suarez, Alonso, Mascherano, Coutinho, Torres and so on. Sterling hasn't won the CL yet, but it's possible/probable he will at some point in his career.
People give Coutinho a lot of stick, but since leaving he's scored 32 goals and has 19 assists in 114 games. He's won 2 La Liga's, 2 Copa del Rey's, CL, Bundesliga and the Pokal. Not bad at all in my books, regardless of where he ends up next season I'd say that's pretty good.
EDIT: Only the one Copa, forgot Valencia beat Barca last season.
Last edited by Zapater; 23-08-20 at 10:48 PM.
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23-08-20, 10:48 PM
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Daddy day care
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 22,381
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zapater
As much as it pains me to say, our recent high profile departures are all kind of justified and most of them have won the lot since leaving. Obviously it doesn't matter because we won the CL last season and the league now but I was looking at the trophy collections of some of our best players and the amount of silverware they've won is astounding. Suarez, Alonso, Mascherano, Coutinho, Torres and so on. Sterling hasn't won the CL yet, but it's possible/probable he will at some point in his career.
People give Coutinho a lot of stick, but since leaving he's scored 32 goals and has 19 assists in 114 games. He's won 2 La Liga's, 2 Copa del Rey's, CL, Bundesliga and the Pokal. Not bad at all in my books, regardless of where he ends up next season I'd say that's pretty good.
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Coutinho only won that stuff cos he went to barca and the team is propped up by messi and suarez. The little bad backed cunt didnt really contribute or "make the difference" so fuck him.
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23-08-20, 10:53 PM
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Dalglish
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baitman
Coutinho only won that stuff cos he went to barca and the team is propped up by messi and suarez. The little bad backed cunt didnt really contribute or "make the difference" so fuck him.
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 That's the point though, he went to Barca because he felt there would be more of a chance to win titles. I would argue that his favourable goal/assist ratio and number of appearances would indicate that he is contributing - what else would he be doing on the pitch?
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24-10-20, 05:55 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 18,401
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His 'new start' at Barca is going great guns.
 ya wee rat
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24-10-20, 06:03 PM
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#932
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Fantasy Football Champion
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,719
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What happened?
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24-10-20, 11:00 PM
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#933
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Donald Buzzworth
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,766
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Emptied by a shite Real in 'El Classico".
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25-10-20, 03:36 PM
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Cuboid Humanoid
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,885
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Wee turd.
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25-10-20, 11:40 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 33,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roboklopp
Wee turd.
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16-02-21, 10:55 PM
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#936
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 33,376
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Had to check on wiki to see if he had a club currently or was semi-retired. Apparently he's back at Barcelona
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16-02-21, 11:00 PM
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#937
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Not to be taken seriously
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 33,549
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Good Norbs. Keep it coming.
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16-02-21, 11:07 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 33,376
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 Fuck off
It was only that Barca lost so badly tonight and couldn't remember if he'd gone back there
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16-02-21, 11:43 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 44,291
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Is he playing for them at the moment, didn't see him involved tonight, and read that if they play him another 5(?) times they had to pay another add on. But I'm thought I read a while back that they had now paid all the add ons.
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17-02-21, 02:48 AM
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Run the Jewels 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 34,813
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Nope, they're purposely holding him back to prevent a further payment clause.
Well done lad, good move
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17-02-21, 01:29 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,213
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Had an op in Jan I think
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17-02-21, 01:54 PM
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Pantomime Villain
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16,322
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How this team could do with the creavity of Phil right now. Get him back ffs.
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17-02-21, 02:19 PM
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#943
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Dan Ashcroft
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 51,684
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Would be insane to blow our transfer record on Coutinho at this is point.
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17-02-21, 02:35 PM
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#944
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Pantomime Villain
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 16,322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Would be insane to blow our transfer record on Coutinho at this is point.
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Not suggesting we do. I'd assumed he'd be available at a decent price since he's done fuck all and they need to get him off the wage bill.
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17-02-21, 02:52 PM
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#945
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Dalglish
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,499
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5 more games and there's a significant payment to LFC - sounds like Barca want to move him on before they are liable
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17-02-21, 07:57 PM
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#946
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Shankly
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,186
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I thought it was widely reported that we sold the debt to a third party - Barca owe “us” nothing......add ins might be different though
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17-02-21, 09:05 PM
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#947
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Shankly
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 9,876
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ntto
5 more games and there's a significant payment to LFC - sounds like Barca want to move him on before they are liable
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I've read this at some point recently.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishnev
I thought it was widely reported that we sold the debt to a third party - Barca owe “us” nothing......add ins might be different though
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And I've also read this at some point (albeit less recently).
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