Philippe Coutinho Post-LFC - Page 24

Sus · 23-08-20, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChesterDave

Did we not sell the whole contract to that investment firm?

? What investment firm?

ChesterDave · 23-08-20, 01:37 PM

It was reported last Autumn in the Barca accounts that Liverpool sold their interest so Barca now owe someone else.

Sus · 23-08-20, 02:24 PM

Didn't even know that was possible

Kenneth · 23-08-20, 02:27 PM

It's essentially just a form of credit/invoice factoring.

Norbs · 23-08-20, 03:23 PM

Sounds like it. We get say 80% of the money due and the finance company pursue the whole amount ending up with 20%

Deano · 23-08-20, 04:32 PM

I'd suggest its for the base fee, add ons cant be financed as you cant be sure they will be reached, and as such would be out scope of invoice financing. Financing fee would have been around 1-3%, but again dependent on Barca credit lines/status. Given EUR interest rates is less than 0% makes sense to park some money an an almost guaranteed return.

Ironic tho, getting EUR5m from Barca when he wins the CL with Bayern

fidget · 23-08-20, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deano

I'd suggest its for the base fee, add ons cant be financed as you cant be sure they will be reached, and as such would be out scope of invoice financing. Financing fee would have been around 1-3%, but again dependent on Barca credit lines/status. Given EUR interest rates is less than 0% makes sense to park some money an an almost guaranteed return.

Ironic tho, getting EUR5m from Barca when he wins the CL with Bayern

I'm sure there would be some vehicle to make it possible.
Work out the probabilities of him hitting each of the targets over the course of the contract and charge a premium on that.
It's basically EV calcs in gambling.
Some poker software actually offers you an in game cashout before the board has been completed with their cut factored in for cash games.

Zapater · 23-08-20, 10:40 PM

As much as it pains me to say, our recent high profile departures are all kind of justified and most of them have won the lot since leaving. Obviously it doesn't matter because we won the CL last season and the league now but I was looking at the trophy collections of some of our best players and the amount of silverware they've won is astounding. Suarez, Alonso, Mascherano, Coutinho, Torres and so on. Sterling hasn't won the CL yet, but it's possible/probable he will at some point in his career.

People give Coutinho a lot of stick, but since leaving he's scored 32 goals and has 19 assists in 114 games. He's won 2 La Liga's, 2 Copa del Rey's, CL, Bundesliga and the Pokal. Not bad at all in my books, regardless of where he ends up next season I'd say that's pretty good.

EDIT: Only the one Copa, forgot Valencia beat Barca last season.

baitman · 23-08-20, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapater

As much as it pains me to say, our recent high profile departures are all kind of justified and most of them have won the lot since leaving. Obviously it doesn't matter because we won the CL last season and the league now but I was looking at the trophy collections of some of our best players and the amount of silverware they've won is astounding. Suarez, Alonso, Mascherano, Coutinho, Torres and so on. Sterling hasn't won the CL yet, but it's possible/probable he will at some point in his career.

People give Coutinho a lot of stick, but since leaving he's scored 32 goals and has 19 assists in 114 games. He's won 2 La Liga's, 2 Copa del Rey's, CL, Bundesliga and the Pokal. Not bad at all in my books, regardless of where he ends up next season I'd say that's pretty good.

Coutinho only won that stuff cos he went to barca and the team is propped up by messi and suarez. The little bad backed cunt didnt really contribute or "make the difference" so fuck him.

Zapater · 23-08-20, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baitman

Coutinho only won that stuff cos he went to barca and the team is propped up by messi and suarez. The little bad backed cunt didnt really contribute or "make the difference" so fuck him.

That's the point though, he went to Barca because he felt there would be more of a chance to win titles. I would argue that his favourable goal/assist ratio and number of appearances would indicate that he is contributing - what else would he be doing on the pitch?

spud_gun · 24-10-20, 05:55 PM

His 'new start' at Barca is going great guns.

ya wee rat

RedReet · 24-10-20, 06:03 PM

What happened?

Buzzo · 24-10-20, 11:00 PM

Emptied by a shite Real in 'El Classico".

Roboklopp · 25-10-20, 03:36 PM

Wee turd.

Norbs · 25-10-20, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Roboklopp

Wee turd.

Norbs · 16-02-21, 10:55 PM

Had to check on wiki to see if he had a club currently or was semi-retired. Apparently he's back at Barcelona

Fredo · 16-02-21, 11:00 PM

Good Norbs. Keep it coming.

Norbs · 16-02-21, 11:07 PM

Fuck off

It was only that Barca lost so badly tonight and couldn't remember if he'd gone back there

Exiled_red · 16-02-21, 11:43 PM

Is he playing for them at the moment, didn't see him involved tonight, and read that if they play him another 5(?) times they had to pay another add on. But I'm thought I read a while back that they had now paid all the add ons.

foresterbloke · 17-02-21, 02:48 AM

Nope, they're purposely holding him back to prevent a further payment clause.

Well done lad, good move

Deano · 17-02-21, 01:29 PM

Had an op in Jan I think

BobTheCharmer · 17-02-21, 01:54 PM

How this team could do with the creavity of Phil right now. Get him back ffs.

Kenneth · 17-02-21, 02:19 PM

Would be insane to blow our transfer record on Coutinho at this is point.

BobTheCharmer · 17-02-21, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth

Would be insane to blow our transfer record on Coutinho at this is point.

Not suggesting we do. I'd assumed he'd be available at a decent price since he's done fuck all and they need to get him off the wage bill.

ntto · 17-02-21, 02:52 PM

5 more games and there's a significant payment to LFC - sounds like Barca want to move him on before they are liable

Irishnev · 17-02-21, 07:57 PM

I thought it was widely reported that we sold the debt to a third party - Barca owe “us” nothing......add ins might be different though

Cormack74 · 17-02-21, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ntto

5 more games and there's a significant payment to LFC - sounds like Barca want to move him on before they are liable

I've read this at some point recently.

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Originally Posted by Irishnev

I thought it was widely reported that we sold the debt to a third party - Barca owe “us” nothing......add ins might be different though

And I've also read this at some point (albeit less recently).