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Old 20-06-15, 08:06 PM   #41
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Never heard of him.

I wonder if he reads this forum? Lots of people welcoming him so I hope he does.
Dom get the fuck out of here before you start getting involved with another boring conversation this time involving fucking football of all things. Go on scoot.
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Old 20-06-15, 08:08 PM   #42
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Dom get the fuck out of here before you start getting involved with another boring conversation this time involving fucking football of all things. Go on scoot.
Good point. That's the last thing any of us want.
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Old 20-06-15, 08:22 PM   #43
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Good point. That's the last thing any of us want.
I was thinking of you mate, I didn't want you letting yourself down again.
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Old 20-06-15, 08:29 PM   #44
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Excited by this signing, reckon he won't go out on loan....
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Old 20-06-15, 08:50 PM   #45
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Old 20-06-15, 09:06 PM   #46
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Apparently he had genuine offers from - as well as us - Chelsea, United, Arsenal and Bournemouth, and it was Bournemouth he was closest to joining because he loved Eddie Howe and his style of football, what with Gomez being a ball-playing CB. If that's true you can only admire him. Anyway he loved Brendan even more apparently so picked us.
Thats strange. Didnt Agger mention he got fed up with Brendan who wanted him to pass the ball out and not run off with it, refusing to change his style and so decided to leave? Or is ball-playing something different. Like...passing it sideways. Because we totally love to do that one.
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Old 20-06-15, 09:08 PM   #47
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Agger left as he couldn't deal with the physical side of the PL
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Old 20-06-15, 10:01 PM   #48
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Agger left as he couldn't deal with the physical side of the PL
I'm pretty sure it was because of his relationship with Brendan and not being played. Theres quotes on that. Nothing to do with the physical side.
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Old 20-06-15, 10:08 PM   #49
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Old 20-06-15, 10:14 PM   #50
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He did have a pop at Rodgers after he left it seems as well. Admitting he can't cope with the physical side of things was always going to end with him leaving IMO

Shame as I always thought he was a fantastic defender.
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Old 20-06-15, 11:39 PM   #51
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Charlton fans seem genuinely gutted to see him go
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Old 21-06-15, 01:14 AM   #52
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Joe cole let us down, Joe Allen is up there too but Joe Fagan was ace so there is hope.
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Old 21-06-15, 08:57 AM   #53
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He did have a pop at Rodgers after he left it seems as well. Admitting he can't cope with the physical side of things was always going to end with him leaving IMO

Shame as I always thought he was a fantastic defender.
I dont fully buy that. I think its one of those polite things to say. Before and after he left he kept saying he wanted to play, felt good, even when he played did well, but Rodgers kept refusing to play him. Then he went and bought Sakho and Agger pretty much decided thats it and confronted Rodgers over it. Thats when he said it was time for him to leave since he wasnt getting used. That quote is somewhere. Either way I was pretty upset when he left. Brilliant player.
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Old 21-06-15, 10:45 AM   #54
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Old 21-06-15, 11:37 AM   #56
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Given the #12 shirt, perhaps he isn't set for a loan deal and will be part of the squad this season. Interesting.
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Looked impressive yesterday.

Did I read we offered Ilori a new contract? Hard to see how he'll get much of a look in if so.
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Looked impressive yesterday.

Did I read we offered Ilori a new contract? Hard to see how he'll get much of a look in if so.
Might be just safeguarding out investment by offering a new contract, if we did like.
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Old 15-07-15, 08:59 PM   #62
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Looked impressive yesterday.

Did I read we offered Ilori a new contract? Hard to see how he'll get much of a look in if so.
I cannot see either Ilori or Gomez with the first team next season.

We already have 4 CBs so it is highly likely both will be sent on a season-long loan.
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Old 15-07-15, 09:39 PM   #63
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I cannot see either Ilori or Gomez with the first team next season.

We already have 4 CBs so it is highly likely both will be sent on a season-long loan.
I have a feeling that brendan will use the europa and capital one cups as reserve competitions - at least the earlier stages - and so the likes of Gomez, wisdom, teixeria, wilson, rossiter will all get game time via these competitions.....

I wish some of these players would back themselves to get a chance.....flanagan would never have got a look in had he went on loan the season before last....he'd probably be somewhere like wigan now!!!
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Old 15-07-15, 09:47 PM   #64
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I have a feeling that brendan will use the europa and capital one cups as reserve competitions - at least the earlier stages

God I hope not, not for the Europa.

I don't mind mixing one or two kids into the senior squad but we have to go all out to win the Europa, it's a place in the Champions League.

Besides that, I really don't think the kids learn much playing together in the Europa. The best way to learn is to play with the best players at the club and that means only one or two of them starting and maybe one or two on the bench but an almost full strength team on the field.

I want to see us smashing teams in the group stage, not struggling.

Then I want to see us go all out to win the thing, not drop out without so much as a whimper like last season.
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Old 15-07-15, 09:59 PM   #65
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I think Brendan will keep the current fringe players in the squad such as Gomez, Ilori, Wisdom, Teixeira etc rather than loan them out at least until January.

He knows the first half of the season is absolutely crucial for him to keep his job and he'll need a big squad available to cover for injuries, multiple competitions.
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Old 15-07-15, 10:06 PM   #66
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I have a feeling that brendan will use the europa and capital one cups as reserve competitions - at least the earlier stages - and so the likes of Gomez, wisdom, teixeria, wilson, rossiter will all get game time via these competitions.....

I wish some of these players would back themselves to get a chance.....flanagan would never have got a look in had he went on loan the season before last....he'd probably be somewhere like wigan now!!!
All the players you mentioned imo need to play the regular football in the competitive league to continue with their development and using them sporadically regardless of type of competition (e.g. Europa League, Capital One Cup etc.) imo wouldn't be smart.

Personally I'd like to see them all go on a season-long loan (perhaps not Teixeira) in either low table PL team like Wisdom did last year or to Championship league like Teixeira or Gomez did a year ago.
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All the players you mentioned imo need to play the regular football in the competitive league to continue with their development and using them sporadically regardless of type of competition (e.g. Europa League, Capital One Cup etc.) imo wouldn't be smart.

Personally I'd like to see them all go on a season-long loan (perhaps not Teixeira) in either low table PL team like Wisdom did last year or to Championship league like Teixeira or Gomez did a year ago.
IMO we only have enough opportunities in the squad for one of Wisdom, Ilori and Gomez, we need to decide which one is closest to making it with us and let the other two go on loan to PL clubs for experience, presumably Gomez is earliest in his development so him and one other will probably be the ones to go out on loan.
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Old 15-07-15, 11:02 PM   #68
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God I hope not, not for the Europa.

I don't mind mixing one or two kids into the senior squad but we have to go all out to win the Europa, it's a place in the Champions League.

Besides that, I really don't think the kids learn much playing together in the Europa. The best way to learn is to play with the best players at the club and that means only one or two of them starting and maybe one or two on the bench but an almost full strength team on the field.

I want to see us smashing teams in the group stage, not struggling.

Then I want to see us go all out to win the thing, not drop out without so much as a whimper like last season.
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Old 15-07-15, 11:28 PM   #69
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God I hope not, not for the Europa.

I don't mind mixing one or two kids into the senior squad but we have to go all out to win the Europa, it's a place in the Champions League.

Besides that, I really don't think the kids learn much playing together in the Europa. The best way to learn is to play with the best players at the club and that means only one or two of them starting and maybe one or two on the bench but an almost full strength team on the field.

I want to see us smashing teams in the group stage, not struggling.

Then I want to see us go all out to win the thing, not drop out without so much as a whimper like last season.
I think that with the difficult run of fixtures at the start of the season if we struggle a bit I think we might rest a few players and give the kids a run out in the group stages
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Old 16-07-15, 08:22 AM   #70
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I cannot see either Ilori or Gomez with the first team next season.

We already have 4 CBs so it is highly likely both will be sent on a season-long loan.
I think we have to have players around for at least half a season to train our way and see them up close. I agree though that both will probably be loaned out before the end of next season.

None of our 4 CBs can be all that secure in their first team place at the minute.
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Old 16-07-15, 09:02 AM   #71
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I cannot see either Ilori or Gomez with the first team next season.

We already have 4 CBs so it is highly likely both will be sent on a season-long loan.
I wouoldn't expect either to play as CB, I think they'd be eased into the team at FB (if at all). Although when I initially wrote it I was thiniking they'd both be pushing for a RB slot, but now I think about it I think it was LB Ilori played.

I'd definitely keep one or both about until Flanagan proves his fitness.
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I think at this point we need to focus on developing one at a time, I would rather develop one of them into a first team contender by giving them as many minutes as possible rather than splitting time between the 3 of them. I don't think that helps anyone in the long term.
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Old 17-07-15, 12:19 PM   #73
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Rodgers says there's no chance Joe Gomez will go out on loan this season. 'He will stay here and compete for a place.' #LFC
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Old 17-07-15, 12:23 PM   #74
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Good news. Looks like our best defender already
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I cannot see either Ilori or Gomez with the first team next season.

We already have 4 CBs so it is highly likely both will be sent on a season-long loan.
You were saying? Clearly he has enough about him to play anywhere across the back line, I'd expect to see him in the EL and League Cups squads and maybe start games.
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You were saying? Clearly he has enough about him to play anywhere across the back line, I'd expect to see him in the EL and League Cups squads and maybe start games.
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Has he been playing left back in the preseason games? If so I guess there is a good chance for him to get first team experience playing there, I imagine getting games at CB will be more difficult, but the backup left back spot is up for grabs. Moreno is first choice and was rested a few times last season. Enrique is seemingly out of favour so there is an opportunity there.

Edit: Similarly there is an opportunity there for Wisdom or Ilori if they are able to play RB as with Flanagan out we lack a back up to Clyne.
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He played right back the other day. He's clearly not a LB for me and I doubt he will play there much. Looks a hell of a prospect though.
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