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Old 06-02-19, 03:12 PM   #601
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Dunno why Clyne was egging for a move in the last transfer window as we are in contention for the EPL...He would have won his place back by now & TAA would have been content on the bench for the next while.
Methinks there is more than just us letting him go!
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Old 06-02-19, 03:21 PM   #602
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Dunno why Clyne was egging for a move in the last transfer window as we are in contention for the EPL...He would have won his place back by now & TAA would have been content on the bench for the next while.
Methinks there is more than just us letting him go!
Klopp liked to use Gomez ahead of him, and he was due back this month (didn't know it'd be longer back then). Clyne may be thinking he needs games, and could still get a permanent move elsewhere to a reasonably big club if he does well on loan. (Arsenal?).
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Old 06-02-19, 03:41 PM   #603
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Klopp liked to use Gomez ahead of him, and he was due back this month (didn't know it'd be longer back then). Clyne may be thinking he needs games, and could still get a permanent move elsewhere to a reasonably big club if he does well on loan. (Arsenal?).
I sold him to Arsenal in FM2019, although Klopp was their manager so maybe it's not too realistic
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Old 06-02-19, 05:17 PM   #604
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I think what no one here is looking at is that Clyne was effectively "injured" for over a year with some rather dubious non-information about his "injury" being issued by the club.
Maybe (probably), there was something shady happening in the background during all that time where he was "injured" (wasn't it some back injury... and when he was supposed to come back it took another 6 months or some shit for him to even be in contention?)

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned it. There will have been something going on behind the scene (Sakho-style, Toure pills, that-January-defender with alcoholism/gambling whatever) where Klopp had probably made up his mind ages ago about letting Clyne leave.

Everyone here is banging on about how "How could Klopp/the club let him go", as if this were some Championship Manager/FIFA19 game, where human/real life complexity doesn't come into play. They (manager/club) aren't idiots and I'm absolutely certain Clyne was let go because of something beyond football skills. We shall never know (most likely).

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Old 06-02-19, 05:21 PM   #605
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I think what no one here is looking at is that Clyne was effectively "injured" for over a year with some rather dubious non-information about his "injury" being issued by the club.
Maybe (probably), there was something shady happening in the background during all that time where he was "injured" (wasn't it some back injury... and when he was supposed to come back it took another 6 months or some shit for him to even be in contention?)

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned it. There will have been something going on behind the scene (Sakho-style, Toure pills, that-January-defender with alcoholism/gambling whatever) where Klopp had probably made up his mind ages ago about letting Clyne leave.

Everyone here is banging on about how "How could Klopp/the club let him go", as if this were some Championship Manager/FIFA19 game, where human/real life complexity doesn't come into play. They (manager/club) aren't idiots and I'm absolutely certain Clyne was let go because of something beyond football skills. We shall never know (most likely).
It was mentioned a few times, but I'm not sure how much we can read into it. Whatever it was he did come back and play since so if there was anything more than an injury to it, it obviously wasn't a deal-breaker.
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Old 06-02-19, 05:22 PM   #606
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I think the Clyne loan was a sweetener in the Solanke deal.
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Old 06-02-19, 05:51 PM   #607
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Everyone here is banging on about how "How could Klopp/the club let him go", as if this were some Championship Manager/FIFA19 game, where human/real life complexity doesn't come into play. They (manager/club) aren't idiots and I'm absolutely certain Clyne was let go because of something beyond football skills. We shall never know (most likely).
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Old 06-02-19, 06:13 PM   #608
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I think what no one here is looking at is that Clyne was effectively "injured" for over a year with some rather dubious non-information about his "injury" being issued by the club.
Maybe (probably), there was something shady happening in the background during all that time where he was "injured" (wasn't it some back injury... and when he was supposed to come back it took another 6 months or some shit for him to even be in contention?)

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned it. There will have been something going on behind the scene (Sakho-style, Toure pills, that-January-defender with alcoholism/gambling whatever) where Klopp had probably made up his mind ages ago about letting Clyne leave.

Everyone here is banging on about how "How could Klopp/the club let him go", as if this were some Championship Manager/FIFA19 game, where human/real life complexity doesn't come into play. They (manager/club) aren't idiots and I'm absolutely certain Clyne was let go because of something beyond football skills. We shall never know (most likely).
The conspiracy might ring true if there wasn't radio silence on almost all injuries. Maybe Klopp thinks the fans are all drama queens so he doesn't feed the beast.
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Old 06-02-19, 06:36 PM   #609
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He wanted to get back in the international side. Not going to happen playing 7-8 games a season especially as we are out of the domestic cups.

We won’t be the only team to have this problem.
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Old 06-02-19, 11:27 PM   #610
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I think what no one here is looking at is that Clyne was effectively "injured" for over a year with some rather dubious non-information about his "injury" being issued by the club.
Maybe (probably), there was something shady happening in the background during all that time where he was "injured" (wasn't it some back injury... and when he was supposed to come back it took another 6 months or some shit for him to even be in contention?)

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned it. There will have been something going on behind the scene (Sakho-style, Toure pills, that-January-defender with alcoholism/gambling whatever) where Klopp had probably made up his mind ages ago about letting Clyne leave.

Everyone here is banging on about how "How could Klopp/the club let him go", as if this were some Championship Manager/FIFA19 game, where human/real life complexity doesn't come into play. They (manager/club) aren't idiots and I'm absolutely certain Clyne was let go because of something beyond football skills. We shall never know (most likely).
To be fair sean, it's only because we all fucking love you on here that you haven't taken a mild hammering for this post. I'm a little disappointed in you

We've never speculated about this sort of baseless shit. It's really negative, I'm surprised you don't feel the cosmos against you (post more though. We need your normal cosmic positivity )

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Old 07-02-19, 12:45 AM   #611
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I think what no one here is looking at is that Clyne was effectively "injured" for over a year with some rather dubious non-information about his "injury" being issued by the club.
Maybe (probably), there was something shady happening in the background during all that time where he was "injured" (wasn't it some back injury... and when he was supposed to come back it took another 6 months or some shit for him to even be in contention?)

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned it. There will have been something going on behind the scene (Sakho-style, Toure pills, that-January-defender with alcoholism/gambling whatever) where Klopp had probably made up his mind ages ago about letting Clyne leave.

Everyone here is banging on about how "How could Klopp/the club let him go", as if this were some Championship Manager/FIFA19 game, where human/real life complexity doesn't come into play. They (manager/club) aren't idiots and I'm absolutely certain Clyne was let go because of something beyond football skills. We shall never know (most likely).
Actually it was discussed on here and you may well be right. Point remains though, that even if these conspiracy theories were true, it would have been just as easy to jack him off at the end of the season as mid way through. It was a poor decision.
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Old 07-02-19, 12:53 AM   #612
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Actually it was discussed on here and you may well be right. Point remains though, that even if these conspiracy theories were true, It would have been just as easy to jack him off at the end of the season as mid way through. It was a poor decision.


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Old 07-02-19, 12:56 AM   #613
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To be fair sean, it's only because we all fucking love you on here that you haven't taken a mild hammering for this post. I'm a little disappointed in you

We've never speculated about this sort of baseless shit. It's really negative, I'm surprised you don't feel the cosmos against you (post more though. We need your normal cosmic positivity )
Thanks for taking my cosmication into account, it means a lot (as it is the sole reason I stopped posting years ago), I really appreciate yours remembering and bringing it up (I'm a soft and gentle spirit really, I buy Bronnley Soap "by appointment of her Majesty the Queen" for 10 quid!).

Read back through this thread, several pages, especially danperk (no offense) (I've had a dozen pints, so it's all I can remember). But the fact of the matter is... we could have DEFINITELY done with Clyne as backup, yet he was sent out to some normal team, even though we had all those injuries and whatnot.
You would have to be a complete blind man to disregard the fact that SOMETHING (beyond football) had domething to do with Clyne disappearance. I mean, Klopps not a fucking idiot "I may not be the smartest person in the world, but I'm not and idiot either".. and the fact is. Clyne left, he played a couple of games beforehand (6.5 out of the 10), but some shit went down.

We NEVER actually found out for REAL why he had gone completely missing for over a year (!!) and he was Mister rock-solid. Granted, he might not have had the whip of TAAs crosses, but he was a proper defender, in my eyes he was the Rafa Finnan. But there he went, never a real explanation for his - extremely - long absence (look at Gomez, Brewster, Ox etc, how we are kept up to date). Just no nothing whatsoever, and when all the world could see we needed him, Klopp still let him go. No fucking way was that "for footballing reasons" only.

Anyways, fuckit, fuck him. We are STILL gonna win the muvvafukkn league mo'focka!!!

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Old 07-02-19, 01:37 AM   #614
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That's all very nice but the real point remains why let him go in the winter rather than the next summer. Whatever it is, he's not dying and isn't going to jail and we needed him. We could have waited.

I think the more mundane answer is that he wanted first team football for recovery after a long injury period, as he is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and we couldn't guarantee it to him and naively thought we had sufficient cover. The latter part being the mistake in all this.
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Old 07-02-19, 07:10 AM   #615
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That's all very nice but the real point remains why let him go in the winter rather than the next summer. Whatever it is, he's not dying and isn't going to jail and we needed him. We could have waited.

I think the more mundane answer is that he wanted first team football for recovery after a long injury period, as he is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and we couldn't guarantee it to him and naively thought we had sufficient cover. The latter part being the mistake in all this.
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Old 07-02-19, 01:34 PM   #616
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I agree that there as some sort of behind the scenes issue that kept clyne out, i said so at the time.
And as for the 'bad back' story
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Old 07-02-19, 01:49 PM   #617
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Thankfully Klopp doesn't make too many bad decisions but unfortunately the decision to let Clyne leave on loan is one.
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Old 07-02-19, 02:07 PM   #618
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On the face of it yes, but we do not know all the facts.
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Old 07-02-19, 03:16 PM   #619
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How come he played against United if things were bad behind the scenes and got hugs afterwards
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Old 07-02-19, 03:28 PM   #620
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Thankfully Klopp doesn't make too many bad decisions but unfortunately the decision to let Clyne leave on loan is one.
Compounded this (apparently) bad decision by leaving Trent on against Bournemouth when he was clearly injured and not affecting the game.

But yeah, he's plenty in the red in terms of calls.
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