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Old 27-09-19, 12:51 PM   #2241
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That is a brilliant and well considered article
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Old 27-09-19, 05:54 PM   #2242
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Keep digging Pep


Benjamin Mendy tweet row: Bernardo Silva an exceptional person, says Pep Guardiola - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49855441
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Old 27-09-19, 05:56 PM   #2243
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He is totally missing the point.

And if ever a group of supporters has discussed racism in football... then we are they.
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Old 27-09-19, 06:06 PM   #2244
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To be honest, he could do with going on the same course as the one Silva should be told to go on.

Miguel Delaney made a good point the other day in that countries in southern Europe have not historically had as much immigration when compared to, say the UK or France. So they've essentially not had to deal with and solve the problem of racial integration. This has lead ignorance across the board, and behaviour which to most people here would be classed as completely unacceptable. Be it through jokey banter, misplaced respect (monkey chants on the terraces) or whatever.

They're 30 plus years behind us on that journey.

Remember watching as recently as the 80s sitcoms such In Sickness & Health, Only Fools And Horses or Mind Your Language, or gollywogs on marmalade jars to see how far we have come (and there's a way to go yet).

So there's the context, but that's not an excuse.
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Old 27-09-19, 06:23 PM   #2245
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I was a kid in Scotland when Mark Walters signed for Rangers, I would have been about 12 and the racism was off the scale. I am fairly sure Mark Walters at that point was the only black player in the SPL. I recall hearing all of the jokes at Primary School, not really understanding what racism was, but knowing it wasn't right. When Rangers played Hearts I recall the amount of bananas being thrown on the pitch. It was not jokey banter it was malicious and I remember some kids thinking it was hilarious. I still recall hearing the jokes.

Actually, just found a clip.


And an article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42371953

There remains a massive amount of misunderstanding up here I'd say, but now at least most people are trying, I cant say it is any better than that.

Interestingly, my kids are growing up aware of racism, they watch Newsround at school and the incidents this season have been discussed. They just don't understand it on any level at that age, which is reassuring. And they are instantly involved in a far more multicultural society.
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Old 01-10-19, 07:50 PM   #2246
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Old 01-10-19, 08:32 PM   #2247
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The excuses are embarrassing.

As if we’ve not experienced in the past throughout Europe. At least in the UK we acknowledge we have a problem.
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Old 01-10-19, 10:33 PM   #2248
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