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Old 26-07-11, 10:16 AM   #41
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God no. I have never seen anything to remotely suggest he could be a manager.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:14 PM   #42
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So the twitters were right. Out till September, not even started pre-season.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:15 PM   #43
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Don't matter, we will do ok without him. But once he is back He's going to destroy teams. I have a feeling he is going to have one of his best seasons ever.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:24 PM   #44
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Till September eh, and in hospital for 7 days undergoing a course of anti biotics to do with his groin op, precautionary, they say.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:24 PM   #45
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Nah, too much blind faith on here regarding Stevie. He's been on the decline for a couple of years now and we'll never see the old Gerrard again. He will keep having injury plagued stop start seasons.

Thats why we need to keep hold of both Meireles and Aquilani
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Old 30-07-11, 12:25 PM   #46
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Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard is expected to be out until September because of a groin problem.

Gerrard, 31, began a course of antibiotic treatment for an infection on Saturday and is expected to remain in hospital for several days.

Gerrard will miss the start of his side's Premier League campaign and possibly England's two Euro 2012 qualifiers against Bulgaria and Wales.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:27 PM   #47
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Not surprised by the news tbh.

I just hope and pray that when he comes back he genuinely will be 100% fit.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:27 PM   #48
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I can understand, given that it's only one year till the euros, why he doesn't fuck off England. That doesn't mean he shouldn't though. Just bin it, Stevie. They'll never win anything man.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:28 PM   #49
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I don't think he'll be back in September.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:29 PM   #50
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I don't think he'll be back in September.
Aye, that's the worry for me. This seems a real biggie, and at this stage of his career it's crucial they get him right. Can see it rumbling on.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:29 PM   #51
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Till September eh, and in hospital for 7 days undergoing a course of anti biotics to do with his groin op, precautionary, they say.
You probably need to add a couple of months until he is match fit and done the pre-season training, at least a part of it.

I don't expect to see a 100% match fit Gerrard until November or early December.

It took Messi and Eto'o around six months to get back to full match fitness after they had the same kind of injuries and operations.

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Old 30-07-11, 12:36 PM   #52
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I think Gerrard is done as a big time player for us, even if/when he returns.
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Old 30-07-11, 12:48 PM   #53
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Old 30-07-11, 01:15 PM   #54
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You've got to wonder if he'll ever get back to full fitness.

Could be a sad end to a tremendous player.
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Old 30-07-11, 01:32 PM   #55
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Old 30-07-11, 02:05 PM   #56
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So that's half of our matchwinners out of action. And Suarez borderline whether or not he'll make the opening day. When i've been banging on about buying matchwinners instead of 'decent and solid' performers, this is kinda why...

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Old 30-07-11, 02:29 PM   #57
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while i dont think gerrards finished i dont think he'll be back before xmas and wont play more than 20 games this season.

the greatest lfc player of our generation is in the twilight of his career and its something that were going to have to accept, might mean we need to bring in another midfield player if aquilani is to be sold.

sad news.
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Old 30-07-11, 02:42 PM   #58
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Whatever will be, will be...Ste Gerrard, Gerrard
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So that's half of our matchwinners out of action. And Suarez borderline whether or not he'll make the opening day. When i've been banging on about buying matchwinners instead of 'decent and solid' performers, this is kinda why...

Who are these so called "Matchwinners that want to come to a club that isn't playing in Europe and are available?

It's only Gerrard here, not half the frickin squad..

I think we are more than covered in the midfield dept..
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Old 30-07-11, 06:10 PM   #60
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If he misses our opening games, he'd better not be in the England squad for those qualifiers
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Old 30-07-11, 06:40 PM   #61
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Is Connor Coady a similar player to Gerrard, when he was younger.
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Old 31-07-11, 06:47 PM   #62
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Is Connor Coady a similar player to Gerrard, when he was younger.
What?

Superhuman?

I seriously doubt we will just unearth another Stevie G. I would settle for someone who is just "very good" or even "decent". I think we have been a little spoilt with some of the players that have come through. I doubt we will see another Stevie G come through in this country, let alone for Liverpool (at least not for a while).

Thing is, Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea all won the league without Stevie G. He will never hit the heights of the Houllier reigeme, and nor should he need to at 31, with hopefully better players around him. Unfortunately, most top players start to wind down at that age, so if we need to start planning for a post SG Lfc, we may as well start now.

I do see elements of Stevie G in other youngplayers we have, but SG seemed to roll up everything in one package. Like for like he is irreplacable.So its probably a good time to start to think differently

Who knows how bad we might have been under Houllier and Benitez without Gerrard, but Kenny has come in without that luxury. The biggest shame for me is that Gerrard would have probably thrived in the system Kenny is likely to employ.
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Old 31-07-11, 08:13 PM   #63
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Think this is the end of gerrard now.....he will now become a bit part player.......injuries now seem to be taking there toll on him........what a legend
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Old 31-07-11, 08:25 PM   #64
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Like he didn't thrive up front for Rafa.
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Like he didn't thrive up front for Rafa.
Did not say that he didn't.

He was wasted that far forward though, in my opinion. Good partnership with Torres, but he had Alonso and Mascherano in the side, and Rafa wanted to accomodate all 3. Didnt work after Alonso left though.
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Did not say that he didn't.

He was wasted that far forward though, in my opinion. Good partnership with Torres, but he had Alonso and Mascherano in the side, and Rafa wanted to accomodate all 3. Didnt work after Alonso left though.
I think he was at his best that far forward, he lacks the discipline for a centre mid.
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Did not say that he didn't.

He was wasted that far forward though, in my opinion. Good partnership with Torres, but he had Alonso and Mascherano in the side, and Rafa wanted to accomodate all 3. Didnt work after Alonso left though.
Wasted?!

He scored and created loads of goals!
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I think he was at his best that far forward, he lacks the discipline for a centre mid.
I actually preferred him on the right. I though he played his best football there under Houllier.
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Wasted?!

He scored and created loads of goals!
AFter Alonso left, he scored 9 and assisted 7 in a forward position in the league. Roughly what he was getting in midfield. And the whole midfield became shit. He should have moved Gerrard back.
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I actually preferred him on the right. I though he played his best football there under Houllier.
didnt he do that under Rafa on the right?

of you think he was best on the right that is
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didnt he do that under Rafa on the right?

of you think he was best on the right that is
I think Gerrard had his best season on the right, during Houlliers reign (cant remember Rafa playing him there consistantly). After that, he seemed to dial it down a notch. I preferred him all gung ho. Discipline is for defensive players. You dont shackle your best player, imho.
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I don't think he'll be back in September.
Neither do I.

Even if some how that happens it will take him at least a month before he gets full match fitness.

Wonder what impact if any this will have on the decision to let Aquilani go or stay..
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Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.
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Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.
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Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.
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Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.
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Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.


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I think he was at his best that far forward, he lacks the discipline for a centre mid.
Agreed

The most disciplined performances hes given for years was when he played central midfield against United at Anfield this year

However you could argue that he was disciplined because he physically couldnt do any more (because he was carrying the injury)

I think a fit Gerrard will still bomb on and evacuate the central ground too much
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So that's half of our matchwinners out of action. And Suarez borderline whether or not he'll make the opening day. When i've been banging on about buying matchwinners instead of 'decent and solid' performers, this is kinda why...

Craig, Craig, Craig. There's always a bird who you see in a bar that you want to bang but no matter how much YOU want it, she's out of your league. You have to just let it go buddy.

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Some right doom mongers on this site. A Gerrard running at half his normal ability is still better than a good 90% of the players in this league (or any other). He will be back and I don't believe for a minute he is finished. It's tragic that he hasn't ever won the league when you think of some of the dross players that have.

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