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Old 01-08-11, 12:03 PM   #81
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Some right doom mongers on this site. A Gerrard running at half his normal ability is still better than a good 90% of the players in this league (or any other). He will be back and I don't believe for a minute he is finished. It's tragic that he hasn't ever won the league when you think of some of the dross players that have.

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That's a fair point but it would be negligent for us to not plan to play a significant amount of any season without him now. I've said so for a while now but this setback makes it even more important.
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That's a fair point but it would be negligent for us to not plan to play a significant amount of any season without him now. I've said so for a while now but this setback makes it even more important.
Absolutely, I think that's true of any players around that age particularly if there are injury concerns but I don't think his delayed return to the first team means he is done in. He has had this injury many times and you could take the pessimist's approach and say it will finally do him in or one could be a little more positive and point to the fact that he has dealt with similar in the past. He hasn't even played that poorly for us but it's credit to him that we expect superman whenever he steps on to the pitch.

We should definitely plan for a future without him but I do hate all this negativity.
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Old 01-08-11, 12:23 PM   #83
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Absolutely, I think that's true of any players around that age particularly if there are injury concerns but I don't think his delayed return to the first team means he is done in. He has had this injury many times and you could take the pessimist's approach and say it will finally do him in or one could be a little more positive and point to the fact that he has dealt with similar in the past. He hasn't even played that poorly for us but it's credit to him that we expect superman whenever he steps on to the pitch.

We should definitely plan for a future without him but I do hate all this negativity.
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Old 01-08-11, 12:27 PM   #84
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The problem is that he hasn't been superhuman since the 2008-09 season. That is two years ago. He is also getting older. Another problem is that he will lose a bit of pace everytime he get the same old hamstring injury. Nothing he can do about that. Look at Torres and Owen how much pace you can lose. It could simply destroy a career and that happened many many times.

It would have been better if he had broken a leg or both legs because that is easier injuries to deal with that a very problematic hamstring injury.

I think that Gerrard will have to change his game just like Giggs did if he want to continue at the top. He will have to do less running, less runs into the box. He will simply have to use his head more than his legs.

That means that we won't be able to use him in the same way. We will have to think about how to best fit him into the team.
Gerrards problem isnt hamstrings

Its is a groin injury
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The problem is that he hasn't been superhuman since the 2008-09 season. That is two years ago. He is also getting older. Another problem is that he will lose a bit of pace everytime he get the same old hamstring injury. Nothing he can do about that. Look at Torres and Owen how much pace you can lose. It could simply destroy a career and that happened many many times.

It would have been better if he had broken a leg or both legs because that is easier injuries to deal with that a very problematic hamstring injury.
I think that Gerrard will have to change his game just like Giggs did if he want to continue at the top. He will have to do less running, less runs into the box. He will simply have to use his head more than his legs.

That means that we won't be able to use him in the same way. We will have to think about how to best fit him into the team.
Are you being serious here!!!
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Gerrards problem isnt hamstrings

Its is a groin injury
I saw my mistake but I can't edit it now because you quoted me You're to quick for me Lec
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I edited it now. I think even Lec will like it. He will call it one of my best posts ever.
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I edited it now. I think even Lec will like it. He will call it one of my best posts ever.
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Reading the media reports over the past few days on Gerrard's injury has made me more than a bit worried. The parallels with what I've heard of Gerrard's injury and rehab and what Ireland rugby international and Munster captain Paul O'Connell went through for most of 2010 are pretty stark.

At first O'Connell was ruled out in spring 2010 with a groin problem. The injury proved persistant and an infection was then diagnosed. The problem is that apparently infections of this nature can be hard to accurately identify and the initial treatment for the infection did not work with the result that it then spread to the pubic bone. O'Connell had to go into hospital for treatment with IV antibiotics (sound familiar?) and although this ultimately cured the infection the rehab after that was long. This was due to the fact that, apart from the normal rehab from a groin problem, the bone had become brittle and needed considerable time to strengthen. Through all this period O'Connell was constantly being reported as being 3-4 weeks from a return. In total he was out for 8 months.

Hopefully I'm being paranoid but the media reports I've heard over the past few months have sounded eerily familiar.
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Reading the media reports over the past few days on Gerrard's injury has made me more than a bit worried. The parallels with what I've heard of Gerrard's injury and rehab and what Ireland rugby international and Munster captain Paul O'Connell went through for most of 2010 are pretty stark.

At first O'Connell was ruled out in spring 2010 with a groin problem. The injury proved persistant and an infection was then diagnosed. The problem is that apparently infections of this nature can be hard to accurately identify and the initial treatment for the infection did not work with the result that it then spread to the pubic bone. O'Connell had to go into hospital for treatment with IV antibiotics (sound familiar?) and although this ultimately cured the infection the rehab after that was long. This was due to the fact that, apart from the normal rehab from a groin problem, the bone had become brittle and needed considerable time to strengthen. Through all this period O'Connell was constantly being reported as being 3-4 weeks from a return. In total he was out for 8 months.

Hopefully I'm being paranoid but the media reports I've heard over the past few months have sounded eerily familiar.
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Sorry to open on a such low note lads! The last few weeks have been like watching history repeat itself though and I'm worried for Gerrard.

If there is a silver lining it's the fact that, while he is still a very valuable player, I don't see Gerrard as the pivotal figure he once was. Rafa built a system which allowed him complete freedom to express himself while he was at the peak of his powers. I don't think he has the energy to cover the ground he once did and Kenny seems a little more intent on playing two up front which will require more orthodox central midfielders. At times Gerrard has struggled to curb his natural instincts and maintain the positional discipline required by that kind of set up.

On the other hand maybe Gerrard needs this kind of a challenge to his status. He always struck me as a proud kind of guy and I can't see him giving up the star mantle without having one more big tilt at the windmill.

Interesting times ahead.
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Sorry to open on a such low note lads! The last few weeks have been like watching history repeat itself though and I'm worried for Gerrard.

If there is a silver lining it's the fact that, while he is still a very valuable player, I don't see Gerrard as the pivotal figure he once was. Rafa built a system which allowed him complete freedom to express himself while he was at the peak of his powers. I don't think he has the energy to cover the ground he once did and Kenny seems a little more intent on playing two up front which will require more orthodox central midfielders. At times Gerrard has struggled to curb his natural instincts and maintain the positional discipline required by that kind of set up.

On the other hand maybe Gerrard needs this kind of a challenge to his status. He always struck me as a proud kind of guy and I can't see him giving up the star mantle without having one more big tilt at the windmill.

Interesting times ahead.
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From those pics it looks like he has been doing a bit of "groin work" there for a few years.
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Sorry to open on a such low note lads! The last few weeks have been like watching history repeat itself though and I'm worried for Gerrard.

If there is a silver lining it's the fact that, while he is still a very valuable player, I don't see Gerrard as the pivotal figure he once was. Rafa built a system which allowed him complete freedom to express himself while he was at the peak of his powers. I don't think he has the energy to cover the ground he once did and Kenny seems a little more intent on playing two up front which will require more orthodox central midfielders. At times Gerrard has struggled to curb his natural instincts and maintain the positional discipline required by that kind of set up.

On the other hand maybe Gerrard needs this kind of a challenge to his status. He always struck me as a proud kind of guy and I can't see him giving up the star mantle without having one more big tilt at the windmill.

Interesting times ahead.
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I must say I hadn't realised we already had 75 users called Scipio. It's a far more popular username than I would have imagined.
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Liverpool stalwart Steven Gerrard has expressed his delight at the calibre and quality of signings the club has made this summer.

The Reds have spent big in the transfer market this summer with manager Kenny Dalglish adding no less than four new faces to his squad.

The Anfield club have added the likes of English talent Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing from Sunderland and Aston Villa respectively along with landing Blackpool ace Charlie Adam and Brazilian keeper Alexander Doni from Roma.

Gerrard, who is set to miss the start of the new Premier League season, believes the signings will be beneficial because they will add strength in depth ahead of a long and hard campaign.

"I believe we've made some very good signings this summer, with Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam, Stewart Downing and Doni all coming in," he told the club's official website.

"Hopefully there will be one or two more arriving before the transfer window closes. You always want competition for places because it's a long season.

"Obviously it gives the manager more options and it also pushes the players on because they know not everyone can start every game."
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We're signing a newborn?

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Gay men have voted Steven Gerrard the "hottest player" in the Premier League.



The Liverpool and England midfielder topped the table in a poll conducted by Gaydar.co.uk, the UK's largest online gay dating website.

More than 4,200 users responded to the survey in which they were also asked to rank players in categories such as "best legs" and "worst haircuts".

Fernando Torres, who left Liverpool for Chelsea earlier this year, was in second place whilst another former team-mate, Peter Crouch, received only 2% of the vote, leaving him bottom of the list.

Chelsea's Frank Lampard had to settle for third place and Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas, who is linked with a summer move to European champions Barcelona, was named the fourth "hottest".

Reigning Premier League champions Manchester United, who beat local rivals Manchester City in the Community Shield on Sunday, were voted the best-looking team but their star striker Wayne Rooney was identified as having the "worst hair". The 25-year-old received 50% of the vote after opting to have a hair transplant.

The survey also tackles the more serious issue of homophobia in football and 12% of those polled said they would not feel safe at a Premier League match and more than two-thirds of gay men do not attend football matches at all.

Simon Johnson, product manager for Gaydar.co.uk, said: "It's not surprising that only a small number of gay men go to football matches.

"What is shocking is that so many aren't going because they're worried about their safety due to homophobia within the sport."

Anton Hysen, who plays in the Swedish fourth division and is the son of former Liverpool defender Glen Hysen, is one of only a handful of openly gay professional footballers.

In an interview on GaydarRadio, he said: "I have found that my fellow team members and fans have accepted me for being who I am and what I believe in. I hope this will resonate out across the whole footballing world."
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Imagine how harsh it would be if we won the league and he'd only played 8-9 games.
I would feel sad for him I certainly wouldn't be about it.
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Gerrard Injury

I may be jumping the gun a little here, but there have been one or two reports that suggest that Steven Gerrards injury may be worst than first feared and that it could spell the end of one of the greatest ever LFC players..

What's everyone elses views on the injury?

Do you see him back in September? Is it just a precautionary measure, giving Steve more time off so the he's less likely to experience a repeat of the same injury? Or is it Kenny's way of finding a way to get him out of the internationals?

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There is already similar thread "Stevie G to miss the first few games" opened under Liverpool FC section.
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Steven Gerrard will return to light training with Liverpool this week as the club captain continues his recovery from the infection that ruined his start to the new Premier League season.

The Liverpool midfielder has not featured for Kenny Dalglish's team since March due to groin surgery and his scheduled return in August was postponed when he suffered an infection related to the operation. Gerrard was released from hospital almost a fortnight ago and has been granted permission to resume light training. "Stevie will be stepping up his recovery this week," Dalglish said.

Liverpool have not, however, revised Gerrard's comeback date of mid-September and the 31-year-old is expected to miss England's European Championship qualifiers against Bulgaria and Wales at the start of next month.

Martin Skrtel will also return to training at Melwood this week as he recovers from a calf injury suffered in pre-season, but the luckless Fábio Aurélio is facing another extended period on the sidelines having damaged his achilles tendon in training on Friday. Liverpool have yet to discover the full extent of the injury-prone defender's problem.

Aurélio's untimely absence forced Dalglish to hand an immediate Liverpool debut to José Enrique against Sunderland on Saturday, despite the Spanish left-back completing a £6m move from Newcastle United only 24 hours earlier.

José Enrique enjoyed an assured start to his Liverpool career and said Andy Carroll, his former Newcastle team-mate and now Anfield colleague, will justify his £35m price-tag now he has overcome the thigh and knee injuries that interrupted his debut season on Merseyside.

"Andy was brilliant for us at Newcastle and I am sure he will be the same for Liverpool," José Enrique said. "He is a very, very good player. When a club like Liverpool pays £35m for Andy, I know it is not by chance. It is because they think he is a good player.

"I watched him play last season and I knew he wasn't fit here. I don't care if the player is Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo, if a player is not fit, then he cannot play properly. He is playing very well in his position and he is going to be an important player this season."
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Any update on Stevie? Wonder if he will be available for the Stoke game on september 10th?
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Any update on Stevie? Wonder if he will be available for the Stoke game on september 10th?
Stevie loos like he was carrying a few pounds on that pic the other day, think he needs to shed that before starting.
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