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Old 11-09-19, 05:00 PM   #1161
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His comment about not being and 18 year old who was at the top from an early age is the same for all the squad apart from Trent. I like that they’ve all had to work so hard to become top players and haven’t been stars from early on. They’ve had set backs, moved up the levels through different clubs. It really comes across with the attitude and commitment they all show.
That is a really really good point. That hunger is evident in how we play. You could argue that Klopp has been the same - coming via Mainz.

People have talked about Mbappe as a potential addition. I am not sure that it is any way feasible as a signing but I wonder would that signing upset the apple cart????

I love the way Klopp and the recruitment team really analyse the personality of a player as well. There is a story I think of Robbo getting sick in his medical. And Klopp walking over taking the piss the next morning. Also, of Klopp giving his staff a bit of a bollocking when nobody informed him that Robbo's Mrs was having their first child shortly after he signed too.

I wonder when they got to speak to Fekir, was there a warning light going off around his attitude???
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Old 12-09-19, 07:03 AM   #1162
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IMO John Terry is the best CB of prem era so far.
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Old 12-09-19, 08:25 AM   #1163
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IMO John Terry is the best CB of prem era so far.


Better than Ferdinand?

Nah, and I don't think it's even close tbh
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Old 12-09-19, 08:32 AM   #1164
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Old 12-09-19, 08:51 AM   #1165
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I'm biased but Virgil for me. Never saw Terry, Vidic or Ferdinand be so routinely utterly foot perfect as VVD is. He probably needs to do it for longer, but he will cos he's incredible.
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Old 12-09-19, 09:09 AM   #1166
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No question it will be Virgil if he stays with us a few more seasons rey:

At the moment I'd say it's between Terry and Ferdinand. With Vidic and Kompany behind that.

I'd pick Ferdinand as I preferred his style of play, but there's not much in it.
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Old 12-09-19, 09:50 AM   #1167
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Virgil is basically a combination of the best parts of Ferdinand and Terry. He has the skills and pace of Rio whilst also being as powerful, commanding and good at scoring goals as Terry.

Plus he is a decent chap as well putting him ahead of Terry in particular on pretty much every level.
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Old 12-09-19, 10:07 AM   #1168
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Have to say Virgil as well, he has everything, I've never seen such a complete defender, pace, awareness, height and passing, he's a goal threat as well and can carry the ball out.

Didn't see Hansen but a I doubt he was better tbh. can't see how you can really improve on Virg.
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Old 12-09-19, 11:11 AM   #1169
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No question it will be Virgil if he stays with us a few more seasons rey:

At the moment I'd say it's between Terry and Ferdinand. With Vidic and Kompany behind that.

I'd pick Ferdinand as I preferred his style of play, but there's not much in it.
I think Virgil but from a United perspective I always thought Stam was the best of them. Did it ever come out what happen with Fergie - he was superb in Italy in the years that followed
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Old 12-09-19, 11:30 AM   #1170
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I think Virgil but from a United perspective I always thought Stam was the best of them. Did it ever come out what happen with Fergie - he was superb in Italy in the years that followed
Jaap Stam's book had a lot to do with it i reckon. Later Fergie said it was one of his biggest fuck ups.
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Old 12-09-19, 12:50 PM   #1171
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Jaap Stam's book had a lot to do with it i reckon. Later Fergie said it was one of his biggest fuck ups.
that's it - the book
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Old 12-09-19, 02:13 PM   #1172
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I think Virgil but from a United perspective I always thought Stam was the best of them. Did it ever come out what happen with Fergie - he was superb in Italy in the years that followed
I was going to suggest Stam but when I checked he only played 60 odd Premier League matches! If he'd stayed he'd definitely have been up there. He was a beast.
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Old 12-09-19, 03:09 PM   #1173
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Phil Jones has to be in with a shout.
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Old 12-09-19, 04:09 PM   #1174
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Winning the Prem would help Virgil's case....
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Old 13-09-19, 06:36 AM   #1175
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Better than Ferdinand?

Nah, and I don't think it's even close tbh
It's very close to be fair, it was between Terry and Ferdinand for me. Say what you want about Terry but he was a world class CB.

As for VVD, he looks like nothing anyone has seen in a CB but it is still early days for him in his LFC career, he also has another 7 or 8 years left in him. Terry and Ferdinand played hundreds more games in top class prem sides that won the league several times. Virgil is world class and the best CB in the world the last year. Can only see him getting better.
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Old 13-09-19, 09:51 AM   #1176
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The thing about those two is that there was a profile of forward that troubled them considerably. With van Dijk, he deals with them all and their style doesn't seem to matter. Small, nippy fox in the box types; big powerful target men etc. He adapts and handles anyone, there's not really a weakness or something obvious which can be exploited yet.

I would agree with Jaap Stam as being an all round superb player, but when you speak of Premiership players, he is pretty much the equivalent of Virgil for us in terms of games and achievements (other than winning the league multiple times). In terms of influence on the team and the CL runs etc. If we won the league this season then flogged him abroad for disgusting cash their legacies would be similar, although that would be ignoring what Virgil did at Southampton. Either way, I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon and has to be in the discussion among the better modern day players.
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Old 13-09-19, 11:22 AM   #1177
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If virgil helps us win the league, then he will be catapulted into the greatest Liverpool players of all time. He could be in the top 10 pretty much overnight
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Most passes today with 121, 96% completion. Insane
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