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Old 07-02-17, 10:24 PM   #3961
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I alway imagined you'd look a bit like the short fella and that Dom9 would look like the big fella



I've always had Dom down as tallish with glasses

But maybe a bit younger?
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Old 07-02-17, 10:31 PM   #3962
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I've always had Dom down as tallish with glasses

But maybe a bit younger?
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Old 07-02-17, 10:34 PM   #3963
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Defo the mental picture I had of them both. Are we sure it isn't them? Another Duncan Jenkins thing.
Ha ha! Dom probably looks like one of them ha ha ha!!
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What a load of crap, he's played 10 league games! And hardly like he was keeping Neuer on the bench, as we've unfortunately come to see.
10 league games is plenty of time... if you are still fucking up and giving corners from your goal kicks you may need to be taken out of the headlights.

But hey if you though he was good enough the way he was playing then, that says it all. How long do you let a player play shite before you drop him? I bet you think Can should keep playing too... like he will miraculously become great after 2 years of showing potential but ultimately being fucking awful.
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Old 09-02-17, 12:22 PM   #3968
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10 league games is plenty of time... if you are still fucking up and giving corners from your goal kicks you may need to be taken out of the headlights.

But hey if you though he was good enough the way he was playing then, that says it all. How long do you let a player play shite before you drop him? I bet you think Can should keep playing too... like he will miraculously become great after 2 years of showing potential but ultimately being fucking awful.
Dont try and twist it on to what my opinions on the players are, using Karius as an example of how stubborn Klopp is is utter shit and you know it.
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Old 11-02-17, 12:03 PM   #3969
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Jesus, just saw this stat posted up on the bbc sport pages from a tweet by Dan Walker...

Jurgen Klopps record after 54 games is the same as the Bodgers.... that has depressed my no end!

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Old 11-02-17, 12:39 PM   #3970
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Jesus, just saw this stat posted up on the bbc sport pages from a tweet by Dan Walker...

Jurgen Klopps record after 54 games is the same as the Bodgers.... that has depressed my no end!

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I don't see it as too depressing. Rodgers did pretty well for a while.

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I don't see it as to depressing. Rodgers did pretty well for a while.


I think its also worth thinking that Klopp has had experience of turning a team around - something that Rodgers has never done really.
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Exactly. Rodgers didn't get sacked for his first 50 odd games did he.
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Old 11-02-17, 02:02 PM   #3975
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Exactly. Rodgers didn't get sacked for his first 50 odd games did he.
And Klopp has shown he can compete in the 'big' games and the way we blew away the smaller teams earlier in the season makes me confident we'all do so in the future with his players
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And Klopp has shown he can compete in the 'big' games and the way we blew away the smaller teams earlier in the season makes me confident we'all do so in the future with his players
26 points against top 10 sides and 23 against bottom 10 sides is gutting really. All that has really been exposed in January is our lack of squad depth. We had no one of the quality/experience to freshen things up when we had injuries and form issues. Absolutely vital that we sign players this summer that can slot in and out of the system. Be interesting to see how we do with what we have for the rest of the season. If we consistently pick up points through March we should be alright.
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26 points against top 10 sides and 23 against bottom 10 sides is gutting really. All that has really been exposed in January is our lack of squad depth. We had no one of the quality/experience to freshen things up when we had injuries and form issues. Absolutely vital that we sign players this summer that can slot in and out of the system. Be interesting to see how we do with what we have for the rest of the season. If we consistently pick up points through March we should be alright.
I've been wondering if it is a system thing, a player thing, an over confidence or what has caused it.

Up until the middle of Dec we were flying and then a combinations of injuries (Matip, Coutinho, Lallana), internationals (Mane & Matip ) and loss of form due to being moved out of position (Lallana, Firmino) caused the drop in form.

Our first 11:

Mig, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Hendo, Gini, Lallana, Phil, Bobby, Mane

has proved that it can beat the good and the bad teams alike but we haven't had them all fit and playing together for almost 2 months. If we can keep them fit for the rest of the season I fancy us to get top 4 comfortably.

We need depth in the summer and that is buying first team players who move the current players to the "squad depth".
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A bit of everything I would say. Without certain players in our side we seem to struggle, if even one of the 3 forwards is out the system seems to break down. I have no doubt in my mind that the lads have look knackered over the last few months & pressing has gone out the window. And I do think that the lesser sides have figured the worst way to play against LFC is the open up, so sitting compact and countering seems to be a common trend vs us. That coupled with not being anywhere even in the vicinity of being clinical and defensive brainfarts have put a nail in the coffin of any silverware this season.

We are still in a good position though and have a chance to push on.

The squad outside of the first 11 is clearly not great and we've struggled when we've had to rely on it.
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A bit of everything I would say. Without certain players in our side we seem to struggle, if even one of the 3 forwards is out the system seems to break down. I have no doubt in my mind that the lads have look knackered over the last few months & pressing has gone out the window. And I do think that the lesser sides have figured the worst way to play against LFC is the open up, so sitting compact and countering seems to be a common trend vs us. That coupled with not being anywhere even in the vicinity of being clinical and defensive brainfarts have put a nail in the coffin of any silverware this season.

We are still in a good position though and have a chance to push on.

The squad outside of the first 11 is clearly not great and we've struggled when we've had to rely on it.

i rememember reading that old cliche on Klopps teams that are like a machine and well one cog is not working it fails. Well thats the problem...replacing Firminho with Sturridge, Moreno for Milner or shifting players around just doesnt work. We need to ensure next season that we have a squad of at least 18 first team players that can fit into Klopps system
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It still comes down to multiple defensive mistakes by individuals. A quality pairing at centreback would have conceeded less, defended better, and possibly boosted the confidence of the keeper. We still score enough goals, or create enough chances in most of the games we have dropped points. Its the lapses in concentration that seem to cost us, and I think that comes down to quality ( and quantity).
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I'd liked to have seen Moreno play further forward, certainly has pace (no brain)
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i rememember reading that old cliche on Klopps teams that are like a machine and well one cog is not working it fails. Well thats the problem...replacing Firminho with Sturridge, Moreno for Milner or shifting players around just doesnt work. We need to ensure next season that we have a squad of at least 18 first team players that can fit into Klopps system
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I'd liked to have seen Moreno play further forward, certainly has pace (no brain)
I don't want Moreno anywhere near the field.

Actually it would have been worthwhile keeping Markovic this season - just to cover for Mane in January.
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i rememember reading that old cliche on Klopps teams that are like a machine and well one cog is not working it fails. Well thats the problem...replacing Firminho with Sturridge, Moreno for Milner or shifting players around just doesnt work. We need to ensure next season that we have a squad of at least 18 first team players that can fit into Klopps system
Bingo. Hopefully Klopp is more aggressive in this window.
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Jordan Henderson, Sheyi Ojo, James Milner, Sadio Mane, Kevin Stewart, Philippe Coutinho, Daniel Sturridge, Joel Matip, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Alex Manninger, Adam Lallana, Ragnar Klavan, Divock Origi, Conor Masterson, Simon Mignolet, Georginio Wijnaldum, Alberto Moreno, Nathaniel Clyne, Harry Wilson, Emre Can, Connor Randall, Joe Gomez, Lucas Leiva, Yan Dhanda, Ben Woodburn, Loris Karius, Roberto Firmino.

Dejan Lovren, Danny Ings, Adam Bogdan, Ovie Ejaria and Marko Grujic have remained at Melwood to continue their rehabilitation programmes after injury.
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i rememember reading that old cliche on Klopps teams that are like a machine and well one cog is not working it fails. Well thats the problem...replacing Firminho with Sturridge, Moreno for Milner or shifting players around just doesnt work. We need to ensure next season that we have a squad of at least 18 first team players that can fit into Klopps system


I agree, but based on that we definitely need this summer:

A keeper - even if he thinks Karius is the future, surely Mignolet will go now?
A left back - we need one at least
A centre back - Matip, Lovren, Klavan then....we need one more to rely on, even if we're hoping Gomez will come good
Right-back is probably sorted.
Midfield - we probably just need one. We've got the option of Milner moving back in there, along with Hendo, Gini, Can and Lallana. Plus kids.
Wide players - at least one - we've only really got Mane with pace and guile out wide
Striker - we need one that Klopp trusts when Firmino is out. Origi and Sturridge don't fit that description at the moment, though Origi is still young and there's always Ings to come back (in god knows what state after the injuries he's had).

So that's at least 6 that we need to get in this summer. That's a big task given the quality we're looking for. We'd do well if even 4 of them worked out and were able to hit the ground running. It could take us a couple of seasons to get to where we want to be.
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I agree, but based on that we definitely need this summer:

A keeper - even if he thinks Karius is the future, surely Mignolet will go now?
A left back - we need one at least
A centre back - Matip, Lovren, Klavan then....we need one more to rely on, even if we're hoping Gomez will come good
Right-back is probably sorted.
Midfield - we probably just need one. We've got the option of Milner moving back in there, along with Hendo, Gini, Can and Lallana. Plus kids.
Wide players - at least one - we've only really got Mane with pace and guile out wide
Striker - we need one that Klopp trusts when Firmino is out. Origi and Sturridge don't fit that description at the moment, though Origi is still young and there's always Ings to come back (in god knows what state after the injuries he's had).

So that's at least 6 that we need to get in this summer. That's a big task given the quality we're looking for. We'd do well if even 4 of them worked out and were able to hit the ground running. It could take us a couple of seasons to get to where we want to be.
You see unless you work in the press or at the club, that is a better shout at what may happen, than Pearce could muster with all of his contacts/snippets.

I agree with it totally.

email it to Pearce, he can print it as inside info.
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You'd need to see those stats for all the teams for them to be relevant.

'Sports team requires rest' is hardly a revelation. They are fitting the stat to be fact. The underlying point is M, as we all know, that we need a stronger squad.
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You'd need to see those stats for all the teams for them to be relevant.

'Sports team requires rest' is hardly a revelation. They are fitting the stat to be fact. The underlying point is M, as we all know, that we need a stronger squad.
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You'd need to see those stats for all the teams for them to be relevant.

'Sports team requires rest' is hardly a revelation. They are fitting the stat to be fact. The underlying point is M, as we all know, that we need a stronger squad.
not just rest but preparation and pretty sure that stat would apply to any top team!
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You'd need to see those stats for all the teams for them to be relevant.

'Sports team requires rest' is hardly a revelation. They are fitting the stat to be fact. The underlying point is M, as we all know, that we need a stronger squad.
I agree and I should have put my opinion on it but had no time....it suits their narrative.
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I agree and I should have put my opinion on it but had no time....it suits their narrative.


It's such an obvious attempt at creating an angle for continued press coverage. The biggest problem with 24 hour sports news is they have to fill it with this sort of shite....
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I dunno, I do think there is something in that.

Our players cant go from footballers to supermen in one season.

I think anecdotally, as I dont have any other stats to hand, and I cant be arsed to look it up... we have had more possession and passes than any other team.

We seem to work harder pressing off the ball too. That has got to take a toll, especially if you are not used to that intensity.

I dont think our slup was down to any one factor, but I believe a bit of tiredness was going to be inevitable having played two games a week.

Of course extra players would have helped, but hopefully by next season we will be even fitter, have a bigger squad, a sound defensive core... all to help support our assault on the European Cup.
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Klopp's also come under question for leaving subs too late.

Which I think is down to lack of quality, or players that don't fit that system on the bench.

Improve both and starters will play less minutes.
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