Hillsborough - Page 48

MrMichael · 29-06-18, 03:19 PM

Not just him either. Hopefully they charge Bettison too...

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Former Sheffield Wednesday club secretary Graham Mackrell is charged with health and safety, and safety at sports grounds offences.

The trial of Mr Duckenfield and Mr Mackrell is currently listed to start on 10 September.

Former solicitor Peter Metcalf and former police officers Donald Denton and Alan Foster are scheduled to go on trial in January 2019 charged with perverting the course of justice.

A hearing to determine whether former Chief Constable Sir Norman Bettison will be tried has been adjourned until August.

Angryred · 29-06-18, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMichael

Not just him either. Hopefully they charge Bettison too...

Bettison should have that knighthood removed too as he knowingly lied to the authorities & cheated the public while having the gall to accept the award from royalty.

Vermilion · 21-08-18, 10:48 AM

Bettison not going to be tried on charges of misconduct in public office. meh.

Charges dropped against Hillsborough disaster police chief Sir Norman Bettison .

Sir Norman Bettison will not be prosecuted for charges of misconduct in a public office following the Hillsborough disaster after the Crown Prosecution Service said the case would be discontinued at Preston Crown Court.

The 62-year-old was charged with four counts of misconduct in a public office, relating to alleged lies he told about his role in the aftermath of the tragedy in which 96 Liverpool fans died.

Submissions on an application to stay the proceedings against the former Merseyside and West Yorkshire chief constable were heard by judge Sir Peter Openshaw at Preston Crown Court as around a dozen relatives of some of the 96 victims of the disaster sat in the public gallery.

Bettison, who was a chief inspector at the time of the FA Cup semi-final on April 15, 1989, was accused of untruthfully describing his role in the South Yorkshire Police response as "peripheral".

He was alleged to have made the comment to then chief inspector of constabulary Sir David O'Dowd, in 1998, when he applied for the job of chief constable in Merseyside.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ice-chief-sir/

Shaggy · 21-08-18, 11:14 AM

Fuck off

Red_Polo · 21-08-18, 11:15 AM

Obviously disappointing but will go for review. Don't know enough about the basis of the case against him, can it really have been so dependent on eyewitness accounts?

Big-Red-Ed · 21-08-18, 11:16 AM

Predictable outcome. The establishment protects it's own as usual. C*nts.

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Shaggy · 21-08-18, 11:18 AM

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Chris · 21-08-18, 11:21 AM

That is fucking sickening but not in the slightest bit surprising, I hate this country sometimes.

Leyton388 · 21-08-18, 01:03 PM

Its a Corrupt nonce protecting establishment so this isn't surprising.

Charly · 21-08-18, 03:42 PM

Duckenfield is responsible for the 96 deaths, and has had to live with that, and will probably be convicted. But the cover up, and deflection of blame onto the fans... that cannot be ignored and should always have been the focus of any prosecutions.

There is surely enough evidence elsewhere of the coverup from the rank and file police who have admitted that they were told to change their stories. Even these conflicting stories sound like they have been engineered as another coverup.

brightred · 22-08-18, 08:19 PM

I'm not from Liverpool so was initially hesitant to comment on this.

The radio news report I was listening to said that the case was dropped because two witnesses changed their story and a third died. I'm reluctant to comment on that but it sounds a bit strange?

poorscousertommy · 06-12-18, 02:22 PM

Duckenfield will face manslaughter charge after his appeal has been kicked out. Tftf

Buzzo · 15-01-19, 01:55 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-46878778

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Match commander David Duckenfield's "extraordinarily bad" failures contributed to the deaths of 96 football fans at Hillsborough, a court has heard.

The former chief superintendent, 74, denies the gross negligence manslaughter of 95 Liverpool supporters at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final.

Ex-Sheffield Wednesday club secretary Graham Mackrell, 69, is charged with safety offences.

The jury was sworn in earlier.

Opening the case at Preston Crown Court, prosecutor Richard Matthews QC told the court the youngest of the victims had been 10-year-old Jon-Paul Gilhooley.

Of 96 people who died as a result of injuries sustained at the ground, Mr Matthews said, 94 died on the same day.

'Substantial contribution to deaths'
Lee Nicol, 14, died two days later and Tony Bland, who suffered "terrible brain damage" was in a permanent vegetative state until his death in March 1993, jurors heard.

Under the law at the time, there can be no prosecution for the death of the 96th victim, Tony Bland, as he died more than a year and a day after his injuries were caused.

"Each of the 96 was a Liverpool FC supporter who had travelled to Sheffield to enjoy the ticket-only FA Cup semi-final," Mr Matthews said.

"Each was an individual who formed part of what was the anticipated 50,000 crowd of spectators, whose attendance, entry and accommodation at the Hillsborough Stadium should have been properly planned for and safely facilitated."

He added: "It is the prosecution's case that David Duckenfield's failures to discharge this personal responsibility were extraordinarily bad and contributed substantially to the deaths of each of those 96 people who so tragically and unnecessarily lost their lives.

Former South Yorkshire Police chief superintendent Mr Duckenfield, from Bournemouth, was the police officer in charge at the match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989.

Jurors were selected from a panel of 29.

On Monday, Judge Sir Peter Openshaw told 100 potential jurors the trial could last up to four months and warned them not to research the disaster on the internet.

They were asked if they recognised either defendant and to fill out a form asking if close family members or friends had ever worked for any criminal justice agency.

After completing the questionnaires, 68 panel members were excused from serving on the jury.

shanks69 · 25-03-19, 12:27 PM

Jury has retired to considered their verdicts.

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Red_Polo · 01-04-19, 04:15 PM

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Hillsborough jury given majority direction

The Hillsborough jury at Preston Crown Court cannot reach unanimous verdicts and has been told to consider majority verdicts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-47777593

Red_Polo · 03-04-19, 12:29 PM

Hillsborough jury fails to reach verdict in Duckenfield case

No verdict against ex-police chief but club safety officer found guilty on charge of breaching safety duty

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ckenfield-case

Shaggy · 03-04-19, 12:33 PM

Does this mean a retrial?

Red_Polo · 03-04-19, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Does this mean a retrial?

Will be a mistrial, whether it's tried again or not is up in the air I believe

Red_Polo · 03-04-19, 12:37 PM

Assassin · 03-04-19, 01:07 PM

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https://twitter.com/david_conn/statu...04545563074566

Good news

Charly · 03-04-19, 06:20 PM

TBH, I think this is a distraction from all the stuff that came afterwards. He was clearly incompetent, but who put him in that position, and then tried to cover it up?

I havent followed it as closely as most of you. Will we see any prosecutions for the coordinated lies and evil shit that followed?

fidget · 03-04-19, 06:36 PM

Never

rodo · 03-04-19, 06:40 PM

never in doubt

rodo · 03-04-19, 06:41 PM

imagine the non copper getting found guilty

Vermilion · 04-04-19, 08:03 AM

Graham Mackrell still works in football for the LMA.

Shaggy · 15-04-19, 01:51 PM

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Red_Polo · 15-04-19, 02:27 PM

Incredibly poignant, that clip

Hillsborough: Liverpool to mark 30 years since disaster
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-47933911

YNWA

Harv · 15-04-19, 02:56 PM

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https://twitter.com/darrenrichman/st...81867409563649

Man, those are some haunting words.

Cant even imagine what it would've been like trying to commentate that game seeing the tragedy unfold, and try to do your job and have to convey the absolute heartbreaking scenes to people listening on radio or tv.

shanks69 · 15-04-19, 03:04 PM

i was just19 when i went to that match and now 30 years later and 49 years old and still cannot believe what happend i also guess i am lucky not just the fact i came home but i seem to have blanked large chunks of it out of my head then again i can't talk about it i can only mention parts of the day to people.
Jft96.

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Buzzo · 15-04-19, 03:15 PM

Difficult to know what to say even all these years later.

I was massively affected even without being anywhere near the game as an avid 14 year old Liverpool supporter. So I can’t even begin to comprehend what those of you who attended went through and are still going through.

Grief and trauma are complex emotions, so take it easy today Shanks69

shanks69 · 15-04-19, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzo

Difficult to know what to say even all these years later.

I was massively affected even without being anywhere near the game as an avid 14 year old Liverpool supporter. So I can’t even begin to comprehend what those of you who attended went through and are still going through.

Grief and trauma are complex emotions, so take it easy today Shanks69

cheers

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RoadEnd · 15-04-19, 05:45 PM

Shanks - It was my 21st birthday that day which was the only reason i wan't there. My family spent the evening waiting to hear from other members that were at the match just to know they were safe. Back then, no-one had a mobile phone. By grace of God they were all safe but like you, to this day they have blocked out a lot of what they witnessed. Although 95 died that day and the 96th a couple of years later, there are more that have taken their own life since. Thoughts to everyone affected by the tragic events that day.

Angryred · 16-04-19, 01:02 PM

With all respect to the 96 that have passed on, why are the ones who have taken their own lives since not mentioned?...Their lives matter too, they simply couldn't cope with their trauma of that dark day & the support for them wasn't enough to help them...That number should have gone up in due respect as they were present on that day.

calvoboy · 21-04-19, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shanks69

i was just19 when i went to that match and now 30 years later and 49 years old and still cannot believe what happend i also guess i am lucky not just the fact i came home but i seem to have blanked large chunks of it out of my head then again i can't talk about it i can only mention parts of the day to people.
Jft96.

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I was 11 and have the same. The queues round every phone box as we walked away from the ground in complete silence stick in the memory, but lots of the rest of it has been blanked and comes back in dribs and drabs. Make sure you talk about it to those who know though. I feel lucky that I have a good support network of mates who were also there, but it's tough each year around the anniversary. JFT96 YNWA.

shanks69 · 23-04-19, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by calvoboy

I was 11 and have the same. The queues round every phone box as we walked away from the ground in complete silence stick in the memory, but lots of the rest of it has been blanked and comes back in dribs and drabs. Make sure you talk about it to those who know though. I feel lucky that I have a good support network of mates who were also there, but it's tough each year around the anniversary. JFT96 YNWA.

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