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Old 04-11-19, 12:23 AM   #2321
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Old 22-11-19, 03:27 PM   #2322
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Old 22-11-19, 03:47 PM   #2323
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How is this still a thing?
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Old 22-11-19, 04:37 PM   #2324
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Bernardo Silva: Pep Guardiola defends Man City forward after FA charge

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"He has been accused of something he is not"

He wasn't accused of being anything. He was accused of doing something. You daft twat.
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Old 05-12-19, 07:15 AM   #2325
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Old 05-12-19, 08:00 AM   #2326
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No hope is there with headlines like that. Assuming the headline fits the article of course
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Old 05-12-19, 03:45 PM   #2327
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Fucking hell.

They’ve got a long way to go. That’s unbelievable.
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Old 05-12-19, 04:15 PM   #2328
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No hope is there with headlines like that. Assuming the headline fits the article of course
It wasn't. It was apparently an article against racism but the headline was a misstep.
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Old 05-12-19, 05:19 PM   #2329
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Im sorry but that’s quite a convenient misstep!
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Old 05-12-19, 05:34 PM   #2330
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...that might be a Boris reference?
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Old 05-12-19, 07:26 PM   #2331
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Old 05-12-19, 09:12 PM   #2332
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Kevin Campbell apparently not aware of 'Black Friday'
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Old 05-12-19, 09:18 PM   #2333
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Old 06-12-19, 12:57 AM   #2335
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I think the Italians just need fucking off from European football until they get their shit together.

Their away support is a vast majority of hooligans rather than a few dickheads, going to Italy for a game isn't safe. Add in all this racist stuff happening all the time.

They deserve no place in the game.
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Old 09-12-19, 12:31 PM   #2336
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Old 16-12-19, 06:14 PM   #2337
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Wow

Is it just me or has the world dropped into some parallel universe where Trump, Johnson and stuff like this seems normal

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Old 16-12-19, 08:53 PM   #2338
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How fucking detached are the Italian FA from what is and what's not appropriate
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Old 16-12-19, 10:55 PM   #2339
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Actually just came to post that very thing. If it wasn't the BBC I'd have thought the headline was straight from the onion.

Staggering.
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Old 17-12-19, 08:45 AM   #2340
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Wow.

If this is how the people in power deal with these issues is it any surprise that they have a problem
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Old 18-12-19, 12:36 PM   #2341
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I know it's only peripherally related, but I often wonder what footballers really say about fans behind closed doors. I know the whole "doing it for the fans" in front of the camera carry on and they're brilliant at ignoring the fat red-faced wankers at every corner flag and pass it off as "banter" but seriously - this repulsive racism isn't the only horrible shit that happens in football grounds. I often thought fair play to Cantona for pole axing that twat years ago - like, it was totally wrong but also fuckin excellent - and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if some POC player walloped some racist goon some day, aside from it being totally wrong etc.
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Old 18-12-19, 02:48 PM   #2342
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Serie A anti-racism campaign: League apologises for monkey artwork

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"I realised it was inappropriate," said the league's chief executive Luigi De Siervo in a statement.

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Old 22-12-19, 08:22 PM   #2343
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Not sure why Dave Jones had to make that statement at the end there.

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Old 22-12-19, 08:33 PM   #2344
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Poor fucker probably has some shit scared lawyer yapping in his ear and has to make himself look a nob.
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Old 22-12-19, 10:24 PM   #2345
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The caveat added by SKY at the end is ironically the problem.
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Old 22-12-19, 10:30 PM   #2346
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Definitely not Dave Jones' fault....or rather he was clearly told to say that. Maybe someone else would've - and probably should've - ignored that and held the line. But he'd probably have lost his job. But Murdoch's Sky are obviously a part of the problem.
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Old 23-12-19, 12:36 AM   #2347
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Definitely not Dave Jones' fault....or rather he was clearly told to say that. Maybe someone else would've - and probably should've - ignored that and held the line. But he'd probably have lost his job. But Murdoch's Sky are obviously a part of the problem.
Murdoch doesn't own Sky or any part of it.

Sold his stake a few years back to Comcast
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Old 23-12-19, 12:37 AM   #2348
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I had no idea

Still, their news coverage panders to a lot of this shit. Feel a bit sorry for Jones.
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Old 23-12-19, 12:41 AM   #2349
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On the subject of racism we get this gem from Danny Murphy on MOTD2

'Something needs to happen'

errrr.....Thanks Danny.
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Old 23-12-19, 12:57 AM   #2350
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I have a lot of respect for Gary Neville for actually attempting to tackle the issue head on, pointing out how sanctimonious the FA have become, as opposed to sidestepping it and hoping the issue sorts itself out with a banal statement like The one Murphy gave. It’s rare in football that a white person expresses a point of view or any genuine outrage about racism and it needs to happen more.

I understand that Dave Jones has a job to do and undoubtedly had someone shouting in his ear, but the words must have stuck in the craw a bit.

It’s a bit like when Trump said people ‘were out of order on both sides’ when those race riots happened with the folk carrying burning torches in the US. One side doesn’t really need it’s POV defended or a neutral position offered.

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Old 23-12-19, 04:16 AM   #2351
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Neville was a cunt whilst a Utd player but he's garnered a lot of respect as a pundit on football and political matters.
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I thought it was the old Southampton boss that had said something and wondered what he was doing on the show
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Old 23-12-19, 10:19 AM   #2355
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So he wasn't made to intervene by his employers yesterday?

If so his comments are indefensible.
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So he wasn't made to intervene by his employers yesterday?

If so his comments are indefensible.
Seems like it.

The more people seek a ‘balanced’ debate, the more the racists are entitled.
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Seems like it.

The more people seek a ‘balanced’ debate, the more the racists are entitled.


The ubiquitous Farage on QT syndrome.
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Old 23-12-19, 03:09 PM   #2358
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All football’s fault says Downing St:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other
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Seems like it.

The more people seek a ‘balanced’ debate, the more the racists are entitled.
I don't think there's much wrong with disassociating Sky from specific statements that are potentially political in nature. The presenter's choice of the words 'balanced debate' was a mistake as it wasn't about balance, or a debate. But that's probably why he's presenting a football show, it isn't anticipated that it will require actual journalistic acumen.

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I don't think there's much wrong with disassociating Sky from specific statements that are potentially political in nature. The presenter's choice of the words 'balanced debate' was a mistake as it wasn't about balance, or a debate. But that's probably why he's presenting a football show, it isn't anticipated that it will require actual journalistic acumen.
I just don’t think it’s relevant.

Would it be the worst thing in the world if SKY just left Neville’s statement to take root. They could have waited until the end. But to say that just as he finished torpedoed his point.

And given the route football is heading down perhaps they need presenters with an awareness of how to navigate such a discussion.
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