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Old 16-05-19, 03:31 PM   #4441
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The more I think about this. The more a ban is the correct decision. First time they got caught out they had pay a fine of 49 mill. This time it should be ban, with a further warning of a life long ban if they offend again
Has to end with a ban, no other logical conclusion really. Otherwise the could just cancel the FFP altogether, and I think 9 out of 10 clubs are in favor of the FFP, the others being run by billioners.
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Old 16-05-19, 06:02 PM   #4442
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I really hope that behind the scenes there are loads of clubs calling for their blood.
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Old 16-05-19, 06:45 PM   #4443
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I really hope that behind the scenes there are loads of clubs calling for their blood.
The European elite would be more than happy to exclude City and PSG
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Old 16-05-19, 07:20 PM   #4444
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Old 16-05-19, 08:02 PM   #4445
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Gotta say, City's PR are now working their notice, could/should have handled everything better, all they have done is sent a big FUCK YOU to everyone......

Can't wait for Karma to kick in....
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Old 16-05-19, 08:07 PM   #4446
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Gotta say, City's PR are now working their notice, could/should have handled everything better, all they have done is sent a big FUCK YOU to everyone......

Can't wait for Karma to kick in....
That's your classic marketing experts: "Let's mitigate this by diffusing the situation as much as possible and coming across as non-aggressive and entirely reasonable".

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Old 16-05-19, 08:10 PM   #4447
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Gotta say, City's PR are now working their notice, could/should have handled everything better, all they have done is sent a big FUCK YOU to everyone......

Can't wait for Karma to kick in....

I never understand the point of PR companies and departments.

Highly paid people who give the wrong advice about 95% of the time in my experience.
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Old 16-05-19, 08:14 PM   #4448
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Old 16-05-19, 08:39 PM   #4449
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I never understand the point of PR companies and departments.

Highly paid people who give the wrong advice about 95% of the time in my experience.
There would largely be no need for them if people actually thought about what they said before they did it. It always amazes me the number of public figures who say really stupid shit which they most know will look bad.
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Old 16-05-19, 10:17 PM   #4450
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If this "one down, six to go" uefa thing is right then them brown envelope chasers will want to crucify the financial dopers good and proper and string them up by their bollocks.

The Whistleblowing hackers Football Leaks also obtained an email from City's club lawyer Simon Cliff, who allegedly wrote 'One down, six to go' when informed of the death of Jean-Luc Dehaene, one of the lead UEFA investigators.
A further email, written by Simon Cliff, was also obtained. A day before the agreement was reached, Jean-Luc Dehaene, who led a team of around seven UEFA investigators until falling ill in early in 2014, had passed away. 'One down, six to go,' Cliff allegedly wrote to a City employee who had informed him of Dehaene's death.
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Old 17-05-19, 07:45 AM   #4451
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It's not an admission of guilt but it is in the poorest of taste and shows exactly their disregard for anyone. Disregarding culpability they need to be seriously punished for this alone.

What a horrible institution they are, rotten to the core and a vessel for laundering money without any regard for sportsmanship
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Old 17-05-19, 08:44 AM   #4452
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Wow, if that is for real it is an admission of guilt.
Its definitely real, they were hacked and all of those emails were leaked, including that one. There's pages and pages of them. I've read them all.
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Old 17-05-19, 09:30 AM   #4453
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It's not an admission of guilt but it is in the poorest of taste and shows exactly their disregard for anyone. Disregarding culpability they need to be seriously punished for this alone.

What a horrible institution they are, rotten to the core and a vessel for laundering money without any regard for sportsmanship
Surely they're taking clean money (legitimately earned by businesses such as airlines) and making it dirty (paying agents, hiding it in accounts, disguising it as something else).

They're the opposite of money launderers. Is there even a term for that?
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Old 17-05-19, 09:48 AM   #4454
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Surely they're taking clean money (legitimately earned by businesses such as airlines) and making it dirty (paying agents, hiding it in accounts, disguising it as something else).

They're the opposite of money launderers. Is there even a term for that?
Reverse Money Laundering
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Old 17-05-19, 09:49 AM   #4455
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Depends how long their ban is or additional compliance requirements. If they have to trim the squad or players want out it will hurt them
Or if it makes Guardiola leave
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Old 17-05-19, 10:11 AM   #4456
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Surely they're taking clean money (legitimately earned by businesses such as airlines) and making it dirty (paying agents, hiding it in accounts, disguising it as something else).

They're the opposite of money launderers. Is there even a term for that?
Money scruffiers?
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Old 17-05-19, 10:21 AM   #4457
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Surely they're taking clean money (legitimately earned by businesses such as airlines) and making it dirty (paying agents, hiding it in accounts, disguising it as something else).

They're the opposite of money launderers. Is there even a term for that?
Soiling it isn't it
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Old 17-05-19, 10:43 AM   #4458
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Old 17-05-19, 10:50 AM   #4459
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It's like they're wiping their arses with fifties.
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Old 17-05-19, 11:39 AM   #4460
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Old 17-05-19, 05:40 PM   #4461
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Old 17-05-19, 06:20 PM   #4462
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Old 17-05-19, 06:59 PM   #4463
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Old 18-05-19, 01:00 AM   #4464
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Old 18-05-19, 01:45 AM   #4465
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Old 18-05-19, 01:55 PM   #4466
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Old 18-05-19, 03:23 PM   #4467
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Interesting read but so what.....nothing will happen to them that will result in us getting a retrospective title.

UEFA might kick them out of Europe but that will just make them harder to beat in England. We had hoped that FFP would level the playing field but City and PSG in particular are assuming they are above the rules.

I remember Jack Walker at Blackburn and how he effectively bank rolled a title, then Abramovich and his dirty money funded Chelsea but City are bankrolled by one of the richest COUNTRIES in the world. How do you compete with that over a season.
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Old 18-05-19, 04:41 PM   #4468
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Interesting read but so what.....nothing will happen to them that will result in us getting a retrospective title.

UEFA might kick them out of Europe but that will just make them harder to beat in England. We had hoped that FFP would level the playing field but City and PSG in particular are assuming they are above the rules.

I remember Jack Walker at Blackburn and how he effectively bank rolled a title, then Abramovich and his dirty money funded Chelsea but City are bankrolled by one of the richest COUNTRIES in the world. How do you compete with that over a season.
A one season ban from Europe does nothing, even imposing a transfer ban does nothing as they don't really need to strengthen their squad.

What should happen is that they are forced to recover the deficit by which they breached FFP (corrected for 'football inflation' in the time since) and they should face some fairly hefty fines as are deemed appropriate (which should also be included in their current FFP calculations). This should force them to sell players in order to meet the rules and would presumably mean they couldn't buy anyone for a while. This wouldn't put them back to where they should have been if they had played by the rules from the beginning, but it is a start to redressing the balance, if applied properly it would put them in a situation where they their worries about making Europe come from actually qualifying rather than facing a ban, similarly their concern wouldn't be about transfer bans, but having to meet the FFP rules, which puts things back in a more natural position.

Just giving them a fine and/or a transfer ban is just a slap on the wrists and doesn't address the real problem, because it doesn't get them away from the position of dominance that the breaching of the rules created for them. You can be fairly sure that UEFA will just go for the slap on the wrist approach.
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Old 18-05-19, 06:34 PM   #4469
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A one season ban from Europe does nothing, even imposing a transfer ban does nothing as they don't really need to strengthen their squad.

What should happen is that they are forced to recover the deficit by which they breached FFP (corrected for 'football inflation' in the time since) and they should face some fairly hefty fines as are deemed appropriate (which should also be included in their current FFP calculations). This should force them to sell players in order to meet the rules and would presumably mean they couldn't buy anyone for a while. This wouldn't put them back to where they should have been if they had played by the rules from the beginning, but it is a start to redressing the balance, if applied properly it would put them in a situation where they their worries about making Europe come from actually qualifying rather than facing a ban, similarly their concern wouldn't be about transfer bans, but having to meet the FFP rules, which puts things back in a more natural position.

Just giving them a fine and/or a transfer ban is just a slap on the wrists and doesn't address the real problem, because it doesn't get them away from the position of dominance that the breaching of the rules created for them. You can be fairly sure that UEFA will just go for the slap on the wrist approach.
UEFA will fine them Ä100m and it'll make not one iota of difference to them and the world of difference to UEFA
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Old 18-05-19, 07:20 PM   #4470
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UEFA will fine them Ä100m and it'll make not one iota of difference to them and the world of difference to UEFA
The only thing that would make UEFA sit up and do something is if the elite clubs of Europe threatened them some how. The thing is Iím sure the real European elite dislike City but because they arenít winning in Europe they arenít a threat yet. Itís the English clubs that will suffer as theyíll dominate here and win everything domestically and you can be sure the FA will do fuck all.
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Old 18-05-19, 07:41 PM   #4473
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State of that fat prick. Incredible they think they are somehow victims of something, they get off very, very lightly. But no surprise really, City seem to use the Trump/Farage method to whip up a frenzy with their support. Utter scum.
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Old 18-05-19, 07:58 PM   #4474
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More difficult to win than the CL ? Pep has gone full Trump mode with his bullshit.
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What a knob. Why does he care?

They so desperate to be loved. Fucking pathetic.
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Old 18-05-19, 08:47 PM   #4478
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WTF is wrong with these clubs? They get a bit of money, come out of nowhere and start winning things, get all billy big balls and a few years later, once they realise they'll never be anywhere near the size of LFC, they become obsessed and start hating.

Plastic tossers.
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