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Old 18-09-20, 02:52 PM   #41
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They really are a troubled bunch. The equivalent thread on RedCafe is far more reasoned , they're pretty gutted:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/thia...uccess.457492/

I always find its amusing to read BlueMoon and interesting to read RedCafe, tbf.

In general there’s level headed discussion. Yes, you’ll get some guys talking shite, but they normally get called out pretty quickly...
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Even on Bluemoon??? A large proportion of them seem like nutters
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Old 18-09-20, 03:43 PM   #43
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Even on Bluemoon??? A large proportion of them seem like nutters
haha god no, I mean on Redcafe. That's what I mean by BlueMoon being "amusing", while RedCafe is "interesting"

Can go on RedCafe to read some discussions, but would only go to BlueMoon if I want a laugh, haha




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Looks like it was all done at Anfield, than the usual indoor Melwood lean/looking at the grass snaps.
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He has quite a lot of presence and gravitas. Looks like a confident lad.
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Amazing signing.

He has quite a lot of presence and gravitas. Looks like a confident lad.
You would be too if you'd won 9 [NINE] league championships
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Jürgen Klopp declared his delight at the completion of Liverpool’s move for Thiago Alcantara as he outlined the benefits he believes the ‘wonderful’ midfielder will bring to Anfield.

Thiago sealed his transfer to the Reds from FC Bayern Munich on Friday afternoon, signing a long-term contract with the club following seven years in the Bundesliga.

The Spain international, also a former FC Barcelona player, arrives with a wealth of experience at the elite levels of European football – most recently as a Champions League winner with Bayern last month.

Klopp is a long-time admirer of Liverpool’s new No.6 and expects Thiago to make a seamless transition to a Reds squad aiming to follow up their successes of the past two seasons in 2020-21.

Jürgen, it’s a major announcement and piece of news for LFC today with the signing of Thiago Alcantara. Tell us your immediate reaction and how happy are you that this is done?

[Celebrates] Great! Absolutely great. I’m really happy that it finally worked out and we could just do it. It’s very exceptional because in our situation, a lot of people around us talk constantly – ‘What are you doing? – bam, bam, bam. Then preparing something like this, working on all different things you have to work in a transfer like this – with thinking about a player like him already is a joy, to be honest, because it gives us obviously some options. Then you get in contact with the boy and then you realise, OK, he obviously likes this project as well pretty much, even before he is here, which was really nice. I learned more and more about him as a person; the player I knew before, the person I learned. So I’m really happy to bring this wonderful person in as an add-on to the squad, which is just good for football reasons – but for all the other reasons as well. So, yeah, absolutely happy that he’s here.

Have you had a chance to speak to him yet today?

Today we texted only, we exchanged some pictures. I sent him a picture of my boner actually. I think he will be part of training this afternoon, if the media duties let that happen – then he will be part of training.

You would have come up against him quite early on in his career at Bayern Munich when you were still at Borussia Dortmund. And we know from what you’ve said in the past you’re a fan of his talent. Is he someone you always hoped you might get a chance to sign one day? Was he always in the back of your mind as a potential?

No, a player like Thiago – settled that much at Bayern – is usually out of reach for pretty much everybody. If the player doesn’t want [to move] massively then you have no chance. You see that Bayern have long, long, long-term contracts with their main players. And Thiago was a main player for Bayern over the years. I know all the people at Bayern wanted to keep him desperately, that’s normal and understandable because he played an important role, in the last season as well. He just was ready for a new challenge and he decided for us. And that’s a compliment actually because he knows the Premier League is tough but he wants to come to the Premier League; he knows we have a good team but he wants to come to this team. When we spoke about all the players, he respects them all massively. He admires them. We played against him when we played Munich in the Champions League two years ago, so he knows what kind of machine we can be and he wanted to be part of that. It is about the club, it’s about the team, that he wanted to join us. That’s really cool. But did I think about him earlier? I thought a lot about him but never as a potential transfer, to be honest.

I’m not sure you personally or the team need a sign, but is this move another symbol of Liverpool’s standing in Europe at the moment? It’s a player at his peak, who has just won the Champions League, and he has taken this decision that now he wants to be part of this team…

It’s completely normal with the team when you are as successful as we were in the last two or three years, that it’s a nice story – a really nice story – and we can tell it in the future and these kinds of things. But to write the next chapter we have actually to create a new story, and for a new story you need new actors as well. We knew that always, but we don’t go for some actor just to have different guys, we want to have the right guys in and then everything is fine. That’s what we always tried to do and that’s why I’m really happy. Let’s just write a new story. That’s it. For this, we all have to push ourselves and yes, each bit of quality we can get helps us with that. I’m happy. The players are happy; since they know [about] it they are really excited about it as well. And when they meet him, how I said, as a guy he doesn’t need any special treatment or these kind of things. OK, he won the Champions League this year but all the other guys won it last year. Yes, he became German champion this year, our guys became English champions. It’s not that somebody is coming in and now we have to roll red carpets or whatever, not at all – he wants to be part of the team, work hard and be as successful as possible.

You mentioned in the press conference that his talent and his ability is obvious, but in what ways do you see he will complement what you’ve got and in what ways will he give you something else?

He can demand rhythm, that’s how it is. He can obviously create and use space for other players, all these kinds of things. First touch incredible; vision incredible; passing pretty good! But is quick as well. Work-rate great. His numbers were absolutely special last year in Germany as well, most steals, ball recoveries and all these kinds of things; most passes. But we don’t play like Bayern, so that still will need some time to get settled and nobody should expect – and I don’t expect – the special things immediately, first game, let’s see. It’s a long-term project and we have a good team, so we can give time. But, of course, we want to use him on the pitch, that’s clear. So the work can start now.

Just finally, Liverpool fans will be keen to know when might they first see him on the pitch. Any chance for Sunday or will it be looking like next week onwards?

If they watch LFCTV this afternoon, he will train! You meant the match… we will see. I didn’t make the squad now for Sunday. We will see what we can do. I didn’t meet him now, we had only phone calls and exchanged messages. So, let’s have a look how he feels. Around a transfer like this the days are pretty busy with things you usually don’t do. If he looks alright, we will find the right place for him.
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It all started with a phone call in June.

Thiago Alcantara was close to penning a lucrative new four-year contract with Bayern Munich worth around £12 million per year (£230,000 per week) when his head was turned.

The Spain international was informed that Jurgen Klopp wanted him at Liverpool.

A friend of Thiago’s family told The Athletic: “Earlier this year, it seemed certain that he was going to extend his contract with Bayern Munich but then Liverpool’s interest escalated and this suddenly changed everything.

“The serious talks only began around three months ago with Liverpool. There has been speculation about Manchester United but Liverpool’s interest was absolutely clear and direct from the beginning. He’s been sure he’s been going there for several months.”

Klopp had long since admired Thiago and it soon became clear during their discussions that the feeling was mutual. The 29-year-old playmaker had been on the receiving end of Klopp’s Liverpool juggernaut when Bayern were dumped out of the Champions League in March 2019 after a 3-1 defeat at the Allianz Arena. A few weeks earlier he had been blown away by the atmosphere in the first-leg stalemate at Anfield.

Watching Liverpool’s march to Premier League title glory in 2019-20 had served to strengthen his desire to one day experience life in England’s top flight.

Having enjoyed a trophy-laden seven years in Germany, he informed Bayern that he wanted to pursue a new challenge. The new deal was rejected and having entered the final year of his existing contract, he knew that the Bundesliga champions would have little option but to sell him.

When he said his emotional goodbyes to his team-mates at the end of last season he didn’t think he would be returning to the Sabener Strasse training complex. He had already put his house in Munich up for sale.

But Thiago had to be patient. He ended up starting pre-season back at Bayern after the September international fixtures.

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Thiago in pre-season training with Bayern last week (Photo: Tobias Hase/picture alliance via Getty Images)
Finally, early on Thursday he was informed that the finer details of an agreement between Liverpool sporting director Michael Edwards and Bayern counterpart Hasan Salihamidzic had been struck. He again bid farewell to team-mates and staff, and the Bayern manager Hansi Flick congratulated Klopp on signing “an extraordinary player and a great person”.

A source with experience of working with Thiago says: “He is a top guy and one of the most professional players in this world. As for Liverpool, it’s a dream come true for him. The dream for him for years has been the Premier League.”

By then Liverpool’s club doctor Jim Moxon had flown to Munich to oversee his medical. A four-year deal worth around £200,000 per week was already in place. His favoured No 6 shirt was conveniently vacant following Dejan Lovren’s move to Zenit St Petersburg in July.

Klopp had secured the services of a man he regards as “a game-changer”. The manager had pushed hard for the deal to get done and ultimately FSG president Mike Gordon and sporting director Michael Edwards delivered.

For Liverpool, it was always about trying to make the numbers work after revenues were hit heavily by the COVID-19 pandemic. They had long since known that Bayern’s asking price was €30 million (£27 million).

Until recently the club’s stance was that they would only proceed with thrashing out a deal if another central midfielder was to leave the club. Liverpool had been braced for a bid from Barcelona for Georginio Wijnaldum, who has entered the final year of his contract. However, with no offers forthcoming and with the Dutchman not pushing for a transfer, earlier this week Liverpool made their move for Thiago.

Edwards is a famously tough negotiator and the passage of time had strengthened Liverpool’s hand. Thiago’s heart was set on Anfield and Bayern were keen for the saga not to overshadow the start to the new Bundesliga season.

The breakdown of the fee is extraordinary given the calibre of the player Liverpool have signed. They will pay a guaranteed £20 million with the rest to potentially follow in add-ons related to team success and individual awards. However, The Athletic understands that the £20 million will be spread over the course of Thiago’s contract with an initial outlay of just £5 million. Put into context, Edwards sold striker Dominic Solanke to Bournemouth for £19 million last year.

“It’s a fantastic deal for the football club,” says a Liverpool source close to the negotiations. “With Thiago having some time off and then the international fixtures at the start of the month there was no rush to get it done. Klopp wanted the player, the player wanted Liverpool and Bayern were willing to deal.”

It’s a statement signing and the sense of excitement among supporters when the news of a fee being agreed was broken by The Athletic was replicated at Melwood when Klopp’s squad arrived for duty on Thursday.

“All the boys were talking about it,” one dressing-room source tells The Athletic. “A signing like this gives everyone a boost. It shows that the club really means business and extra competition for places puts even more hunger in the squad.

“We’re not talking about someone coming in as back-up, we’re talking about an elite player who has won loads of trophies and can really make a big difference on the field. He fits the ilk of the kind of player you want to see Liverpool bring in.

“The midfield is one area that Klopp regularly rotates and, with the schedule as it is, the more options we have in there the better.”

The signing of Thiago, whose father Mazinho was a World Cup winner with Brazil in 1994, represents a significant departure from the transfer policy that helped Liverpool win the Champions League, the Super Cup, the Club World Cup and the Premier League title in the space of 13 months. FSG have always favoured a model of investing in younger talent with big potential.

Klopp has traditionally elevated players into the world-class bracket rather than bought gems at the peak of their career who didn’t need polishing. Even big-money buys like Virgil van Dijk and Alisson weren’t serial winners like Thiago.

In fact, prior to Thiago, the only player over the age of 26 who Liverpool had paid a fee for during Klopp’s Anfield reign was Estonian centre-back Ragnar Klavan, a modest £4.2 million stop-gap purchase from Augsburg in 2016.



This wasn’t a signing being pushed over an extended period by Liverpool’s esteemed team of data analysts. In fact, he was outside of their prescribed remit. However, when Edwards came to them and asked them to examine the numbers on Thiago their findings backed up why Klopp was so desperate to bring him on board.

His expert range of passing and creative spark was well-known. But just as important to Liverpool was the data in terms of winning back possession and operating in tight spaces by keeping the ball under pressure. He ticked all the boxes.

Thiago suffered a serious knee injury back in 2014 which ruled him out for a year but Liverpool had no concerns on that front. He had proved his robust nature by clocking up 220 games for club and country over the past five seasons.

The absence of any real sell-on value given that he will be 33 when his contract runs out was deemed unimportant given the relatively low transfer fee and the commercial benefits that his signing will undoubtedly yield. Shirt sales since Nike took over from New Balance this summer are already up in excess of 20 per cent and Thiago’s arrival is bound to fuel demand further.

“The player made a strong, early commitment to come to us,” a senior member of staff at Melwood tells The Athletic. “Looking at the fixture list, we knew we needed depth in midfield. Thiago can play the final ball and that’s something that was missing. He’s also outstanding in terms of being press-resistant and he has a superb football brain.”


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Klopp and his backroom staff had a drink together in Hotel Gut Brandlhof, close to the picturesque town of Saalfelden, watching the Champions League final during last month’s training camp in Austria. All eyes were on Thiago, who ran the show and was integral to Bayern’s triumph over Paris Saint-Germain.

It was a performance which reinforced Klopp’s belief that he was an elegant player who could give Liverpool a new dimension. Klopp regards him as one of the most complete and balanced midfielders he’s ever seen.

The manager and assistant Pep Lijnders often talk about the need for Liverpool to stay “unpredictable”. They like to keep opponents guessing. It’s why they work to ensure that the style of the team evolves from year to year.

So much of their attacking threat currently comes from the wide areas with the quality provided by full-backs Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andy Robertson. But with Thiago on board they will have someone capable of dissecting defences from central areas. The front three of Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino should be licking their lips.

“Improving this title-winning team isn’t easy,” says another senior Melwood source. “But Thiago is one of the few who can. In the end the deal was a no-brainer.”

His presence will give Klopp give greater flexibility in terms of whether to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. It also makes signing another centre-back to replace Lovren less important given that Thiago’s presence frees up Fabinho to play in the backline when needs must.

Liverpool insist the arrival of Thiago doesn’t mean that another senior midfielder is inevitably on the way out. Wijnaldum has indicated that he wants to stay put for the coming season following positive talks with Klopp but a number of fringe stars will depart to generate cash. The first of those appears to be the Holland youth international Ki-Jana Hoever, who looks set to join Wolves for a fee upwards of £10 million.

“Klopp knows he needs to sell but he wants to as well,” says a source close to the owners. “He’s wary of the squad becoming bloated.”

Having suffered at the hands of Bayern cherry-picking the likes of Robert Lewandowski, Mats Hummels and Mario Gotze when he was in charge of Borussia Dortmund, Klopp has now lured an elite midfielder in his prime away from the European champions.

It’s testament to Klopp’s pulling power and Liverpool’s current status globally. Six years ago Liverpool’s attempts to sign Toni Kroos involved Brendan Rodgers asking Steven Gerrard to text him.

Thiago had also been linked with Manchester United this summer but although they held discussions with his representatives there were no direct talks with Bayern.

He had been pursued by both Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years. Bayern put the feelers out to them once again in the hope of creating a bidding war with Liverpool but it never developed. Sources indicate that other potential suitors were quoted salary demands of £17 million a year (£327,000 per week). Barcelona considered re-signing him but swapping Arthur for Juventus’ Miralem Pjanic was deemed a more sensible financial decision.

Thiago and his wife Julia Vigas had previously expressed a wish to live in London so when Liverpool became an option some around him weren’t sure if it would appeal to him but he soon put them right. A move to Manchester City and a reunion with Pep Guardiola, who took him to Bayern in 2013, was never on the cards.

“They had a good professional relationship but as with many players under Pep’s management, the experience together was too intense. Very, very few go running back to him,” one source close to the player and Barcelona explains.

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Thiago and Guardiola during their time at Bayern (Photo: Gonzalo Arroyo Moreno/Getty Images)
Thiago really should have graced the Premier League long before now. Back in 2013, the deal was effectively done to take him from Barcelona to Manchester United. United had tracked him for years and had a mountain of scouting reports, from his days playing for Spain Under-16s right through to life as a full international.

He was 22 and the departing United manager Sir Alex Ferguson viewed him as one of two leaving presents. The other was to bomb out Wayne Rooney following their fallout. However, incoming manager David Moyes decided to keep Rooney and dithered over Thiago.

Both the fee and personal terms had been agreed but Moyes got cold feet. He decided that he didn’t feel comfortable spending money on a player he had never seen play live.

Moyes even had a clause in his contract that allowed a certain number of private jets each season for watching players.

The deal collapsed and Moyes ended up signing Marouane Fellaini for £27.5 million on deadline day. Moyes had wanted Cesc Fabregas but that failed to materialise.

Seven years on, Thiago has finally arrived in the Premier League and Klopp’s Liverpool have the show of ambition in the transfer market which will fuel the belief they can retain their crown.
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Today we texted only, we exchanged some pictures. I sent him a picture of my boner actually. I think he will be part of training this afternoon, if the media duties let that happen – then he will be part of training.
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It all started with a phone call in June.
Thiago Alcantara was close to penning a lucrative new four-year contract with Bayern Munich worth around £12 million per year (£230,000 per week) when his head was turned.
The Spain international was informed that Jurgen Klopp wanted him at Liverpool.
A friend of Thiago’s family told The Athletic: “Earlier this year, it seemed certain that he was going to extend his contract with Bayern Munich but then Liverpool’s interest escalated and this suddenly changed everything.
“The serious talks only began around three months ago with Liverpool. There has been speculation about Manchester United but Liverpool’s interest was absolutely clear and direct from the beginning. He’s been sure he’s been going there for several months.”
Klopp had long since admired Thiago and it soon became clear during their discussions that the feeling was mutual. The 29-year-old playmaker had been on the receiving end of Klopp’s Liverpool juggernaut when Bayern were dumped out of the Champions League in March 2019 after a 3-1 defeat at the Allianz Arena. A few weeks earlier he had been blown away by the atmosphere in the first-leg stalemate at Anfield.
Watching Liverpool’s march to Premier League title glory in 2019-20 had served to strengthen his desire to one day experience life in England’s top flight.
Having enjoyed a trophy-laden seven years in Germany, he informed Bayern that he wanted to pursue a new challenge. The new deal was rejected and having entered the final year of his existing contract, he knew that the Bundesliga champions would have little option but to sell him.
When he said his emotional goodbyes to his team-mates at the end of last season he didn’t think he would be returning to the Sabener Strasse training complex. He had already put his house in Munich up for sale.
But Thiago had to be patient. He ended up starting pre-season back at Bayern after the September international fixtures.
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Thiago in pre-season training with Bayern last week (Photo: Tobias Hase/picture alliance via Getty Images)
Finally, early on Thursday he was informed that the finer details of an agreement between Liverpool sporting director Michael Edwards and Bayern counterpart Hasan Salihamidzic had been struck. He again bid farewell to team-mates and staff, and the Bayern manager Hansi Flick congratulated Klopp on signing “an extraordinary player and a great person”.
A source with experience of working with Thiago says: “He is a top guy and one of the most professional players in this world. As for Liverpool, it’s a dream come true for him. The dream for him for years has been the Premier League.”
By then Liverpool’s club doctor Jim Moxon had flown to Munich to oversee his medical. A four-year deal worth around £200,000 per week was already in place. His favoured No 6 shirt was conveniently vacant following Dejan Lovren’s move to Zenit St Petersburg in July.
Klopp had secured the services of a man he regards as “a game-changer”. The manager had pushed hard for the deal to get done and ultimately FSG president Mike Gordon and sporting director Michael Edwards delivered.
For Liverpool, it was always about trying to make the numbers work after revenues were hit heavily by the COVID-19 pandemic. They had long since known that Bayern’s asking price was €30 million (£27 million).
Until recently the club’s stance was that they would only proceed with thrashing out a deal if another central midfielder was to leave the club. Liverpool had been braced for a bid from Barcelona for Georginio Wijnaldum, who has entered the final year of his contract. However, with no offers forthcoming and with the Dutchman not pushing for a transfer, earlier this week Liverpool made their move for Thiago.
Edwards is a famously tough negotiator and the passage of time had strengthened Liverpool’s hand. Thiago’s heart was set on Anfield and Bayern were keen for the saga not to overshadow the start to the new Bundesliga season.
The breakdown of the fee is extraordinary given the calibre of the player Liverpool have signed. They will pay a guaranteed £20 million with the rest to potentially follow in add-ons related to team success and individual awards. However, The Athletic understands that the £20 million will be spread over the course of Thiago’s contract with an initial outlay of just £5 million. Put into context, Edwards sold striker Dominic Solanke to Bournemouth for £19 million last year.
“It’s a fantastic deal for the football club,” says a Liverpool source close to the negotiations. “With Thiago having some time off and then the international fixtures at the start of the month there was no rush to get it done. Klopp wanted the player, the player wanted Liverpool and Bayern were willing to deal.”
It’s a statement signing and the sense of excitement among supporters when the news of a fee being agreed was broken by The Athletic was replicated at Melwood when Klopp’s squad arrived for duty on Thursday.
“All the boys were talking about it,” one dressing-room source tells The Athletic. “A signing like this gives everyone a boost. It shows that the club really means business and extra competition for places puts even more hunger in the squad.
“We’re not talking about someone coming in as back-up, we’re talking about an elite player who has won loads of trophies and can really make a big difference on the field. He fits the ilk of the kind of player you want to see Liverpool bring in.
“The midfield is one area that Klopp regularly rotates and, with the schedule as it is, the more options we have in there the better.”
The signing of Thiago, whose father Mazinho was a World Cup winner with Brazil in 1994, represents a significant departure from the transfer policy that helped Liverpool win the Champions League, the Super Cup, the Club World Cup and the Premier League title in the space of 13 months. FSG have always favoured a model of investing in younger talent with big potential.
Klopp has traditionally elevated players into the world-class bracket rather than bought gems at the peak of their career who didn’t need polishing. Even big-money buys like Virgil van Dijk and Alisson weren’t serial winners like Thiago.
In fact, prior to Thiago, the only player over the age of 26 who Liverpool had paid a fee for during Klopp’s Anfield reign was Estonian centre-back Ragnar Klavan, a modest £4.2 million stop-gap purchase from Augsburg in 2016.

This wasn’t a signing being pushed over an extended period by Liverpool’s esteemed team of data analysts. In fact, he was outside of their prescribed remit. However, when Edwards came to them and asked them to examine the numbers on Thiago their findings backed up why Klopp was so desperate to bring him on board.
His expert range of passing and creative spark was well-known. But just as important to Liverpool was the data in terms of winning back possession and operating in tight spaces by keeping the ball under pressure. He ticked all the boxes.
Thiago suffered a serious knee injury back in 2014 which ruled him out for a year but Liverpool had no concerns on that front. He had proved his robust nature by clocking up 220 games for club and country over the past five seasons.
The absence of any real sell-on value given that he will be 33 when his contract runs out was deemed unimportant given the relatively low transfer fee and the commercial benefits that his signing will undoubtedly yield. Shirt sales since Nike took over from New Balance this summer are already up in excess of 20 per cent and Thiago’s arrival is bound to fuel demand further.
“The player made a strong, early commitment to come to us,” a senior member of staff at Melwood tells The Athletic. “Looking at the fixture list, we knew we needed depth in midfield. Thiago can play the final ball and that’s something that was missing. He’s also outstanding in terms of being press-resistant and he has a superb football brain.”

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Klopp and his backroom staff had a drink together in Hotel Gut Brandlhof, close to the picturesque town of Saalfelden, watching the Champions League final during last month’s training camp in Austria. All eyes were on Thiago, who ran the show and was integral to Bayern’s triumph over Paris Saint-Germain.
It was a performance which reinforced Klopp’s belief that he was an elegant player who could give Liverpool a new dimension. Klopp regards him as one of the most complete and balanced midfielders he’s ever seen.
The manager and assistant Pep Lijnders often talk about the need for Liverpool to stay “unpredictable”. They like to keep opponents guessing. It’s why they work to ensure that the style of the team evolves from year to year.
So much of their attacking threat currently comes from the wide areas with the quality provided by full-backs Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andy Robertson. But with Thiago on board they will have someone capable of dissecting defences from central areas. The front three of Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino should be licking their lips.
“Improving this title-winning team isn’t easy,” says another senior Melwood source. “But Thiago is one of the few who can. In the end the deal was a no-brainer.”
His presence will give Klopp give greater flexibility in terms of whether to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. It also makes signing another centre-back to replace Lovren less important given that Thiago’s presence frees up Fabinho to play in the backline when needs must.
Liverpool insist the arrival of Thiago doesn’t mean that another senior midfielder is inevitably on the way out. Wijnaldum has indicated that he wants to stay put for the coming season following positive talks with Klopp but a number of fringe stars will depart to generate cash. The first of those appears to be the Holland youth international Ki-Jana Hoever, who looks set to join Wolves for a fee upwards of £10 million.
“Klopp knows he needs to sell but he wants to as well,” says a source close to the owners. “He’s wary of the squad becoming bloated.”
Having suffered at the hands of Bayern cherry-picking the likes of Robert Lewandowski, Mats Hummels and Mario Gotze when he was in charge of Borussia Dortmund, Klopp has now lured an elite midfielder in his prime away from the European champions.
It’s testament to Klopp’s pulling power and Liverpool’s current status globally. Six years ago Liverpool’s attempts to sign Toni Kroos involved Brendan Rodgers asking Steven Gerrard to text him.
Thiago had also been linked with Manchester United this summer but although they held discussions with his representatives there were no direct talks with Bayern.
He had been pursued by both Arsenal and Chelsea in recent years. Bayern put the feelers out to them once again in the hope of creating a bidding war with Liverpool but it never developed. Sources indicate that other potential suitors were quoted salary demands of £17 million a year (£327,000 per week). Barcelona considered re-signing him but swapping Arthur for Juventus’ Miralem Pjanic was deemed a more sensible financial decision.
Thiago and his wife Julia Vigas had previously expressed a wish to live in London so when Liverpool became an option some around him weren’t sure if it would appeal to him but he soon put them right. A move to Manchester City and a reunion with Pep Guardiola, who took him to Bayern in 2013, was never on the cards.
“They had a good professional relationship but as with many players under Pep’s management, the experience together was too intense. Very, very few go running back to him,” one source close to the player and Barcelona explains.
Thiago, Guardiola
Thiago and Guardiola during their time at Bayern (Photo: Gonzalo Arroyo Moreno/Getty Images)
Thiago really should have graced the Premier League long before now. Back in 2013, the deal was effectively done to take him from Barcelona to Manchester United. United had tracked him for years and had a mountain of scouting reports, from his days playing for Spain Under-16s right through to life as a full international.
He was 22 and the departing United manager Sir Alex Ferguson viewed him as one of two leaving presents. The other was to bomb out Wayne Rooney following their fallout. However, incoming manager David Moyes decided to keep Rooney and dithered over Thiago.
Both the fee and personal terms had been agreed but Moyes got cold feet. He decided that he didn’t feel comfortable spending money on a player he had never seen play live.
Moyes even had a clause in his contract that allowed a certain number of private jets each season for watching players.
The deal collapsed and Moyes ended up signing Marouane Fellaini for £27.5 million on deadline day. Moyes had wanted Cesc Fabregas but that failed to materialise.
Seven years on, Thiago has finally arrived in the Premier League and Klopp’s Liverpool have the show of ambition in the transfer market which will fuel the belief they can retain their crown.
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Can someone go round and check Shaggy? He's not posted anything on Thiago for 20 mins.

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must say Shaggy you were a brave man to post the "welcome to" thread before he actually signed. You would have got absolute pelters if it had been another knee injury during the press conference photoshoot situation!
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Just watching his interview on LFCTVgo.

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