22-08-10, 06:40 PM
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Unidentified Rascal
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Rafa Watch
Those of us who are keeping on eye on Rafa's progress might as well do it all in here.
First trophy in the bag, go on Rafa
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22-08-10, 07:13 PM
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Good to see him smiling again
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22-08-10, 09:24 PM
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Dalglish
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Good to see him smiling again
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22-08-10, 09:29 PM
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It's Mourinho's trophy really.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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23-08-10, 03:12 PM
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Dalglish
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Originally Posted by Neil Young
It's Mourinho's trophy really.

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Did Rafa say something along the lines of "If he wants the credit for wins, will he take the blame for the losses?" or am I imagining that?
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23-08-10, 03:13 PM
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Unidentified Rascal
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Yep that's what he said  ....typical Rafa, the man is class.
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23-08-10, 03:17 PM
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Anyone else genuinely think he will ever return?
I do... and I have a feeling Mourinho will be the boss of the Scum at that time.
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23-08-10, 03:21 PM
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It's unbelievable Jeff!!
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Originally Posted by Tee
Anyone else genuinely think he will ever return?
I do... and I have a feeling Mourinho will be the boss of the Scum at that time.
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no i don't think he will ever return and i don't want him too either. been here done it. why come back?
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23-08-10, 03:25 PM
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Unidentified Rascal
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Originally Posted by Tee
Anyone else genuinely think he will ever return?
I do... and I have a feeling Mourinho will be the boss of the Scum at that time.
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I do think he'll be back one day. Just a hunch like.
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23-08-10, 03:29 PM
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El Pistolero
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Originally Posted by the rev leeroy brown
no i don't think he will ever return and i don't want him too either. been here done it. why come back?
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It is his home. He loves the club. Unfinished business maybe?
If we had the right owners, he would have never left. Imagine our team now if he was able to get some of his first choice targets.
Don't really want to hijack this thread with another Rafa debate, but I also have a hunch we haven't seen the last of Rafa Benitez at Liverpool.
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23-08-10, 03:37 PM
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It's unbelievable Jeff!!
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Originally Posted by Tee
It is his home. He loves the club. Unfinished business maybe?
If we had the right owners, he would have never left. Imagine our team now if he was able to get some of his first choice targets.
Don't really want to hijack this thread with another Rafa debate, but I also have a hunch we haven't seen the last of Rafa Benitez at Liverpool.
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nah, i dont beleive this is his home.
he is madrid at heart and he will end up there one day.
he tried here and won us the CL. new owners or not he would prob never have had much more major success here and i think he knew it.
i doubt he'll come back and for the sake of his reputation here i hope he doesnt.
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23-08-10, 03:49 PM
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Unidentified Rascal
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Well, last we heard his wife and kids still live over here and they ain't selling the house. Both he and Montse said as much, this is their home now.
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23-08-10, 04:42 PM
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Dalglish
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Originally Posted by Shaggy
Yep that's what he said  ....typical Rafa, the man is class.
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Thought so. Should say to Houllier to take the credit for putting together a team that was dumped out of the FA Cup by Burnley when he next mentions that Istanbul was down to him.
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23-08-10, 07:25 PM
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i would still love Rafa to be our manager however i think Roy has calmed the waters a bit and we will see the benifit from his approach.
I dont think you should ever go back so I cant see Rafa coming back. It usually is doomed when you return.
still think he was a great man.
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23-08-10, 07:38 PM
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Houllier
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy
Well, last we heard his wife and kids still live over here and they ain't selling the house. Both he and Montse said as much, this is their home now.
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 Ive heard the same also
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23-08-10, 09:44 PM
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Rafa
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23-08-10, 10:12 PM
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Paisley
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Rafa Watch ????
I sure hope Rafa was watching us tonight.
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23-08-10, 10:55 PM
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Dalglish
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He'll be getting a new watch won't he? I seem to remember Montse buys him a watch when he wins a trophy
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23-08-10, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaggy
I do think he'll be back one day. Just a hunch like.
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I hope so, really do. Top bloke!
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23-08-10, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by johnly
He'll be getting a new watch won't he? I seem to remember Montse buys him a watch when he wins a trophy
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Doesnt he buy her a watch when he wins a trophy
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24-08-10, 01:09 PM
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Benitez closes Inter training to public, so a fan get motorized hang-glider and watches from above. Last yr, Jose might have called a sniper
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24-08-10, 03:12 PM
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I'm still gutted he went, the guy was a touch of class.
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24-08-10, 03:25 PM
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Same here.
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24-08-10, 03:30 PM
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It's unbelievable Jeff!!
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 a touch of class maybe, but not good enough to win the big one for us. let it go people.
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24-08-10, 03:30 PM
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No
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24-08-10, 03:52 PM
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I'm Slovakian really!
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why?
what's done is done, roy's our manger now, forget rafa.
i found it a bit tastless last night when fans were chanting rafa's name..talk about a vote of confidence for roy..
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24-08-10, 03:54 PM
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Prosecco Socialist
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Originally Posted by SlovenianKopite
why?
what's done is done, roy's our manger now, forget rafa.
i found it a bit tastless last night when fans were chanting rafa's name..talk about a vote of confidence for roy..
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They were Man City fans.
On the main issue, I agree with Reecie.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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24-08-10, 03:56 PM
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I'm Slovakian really!
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They were Man City fans.
On the main issue, I agree with Reecie.
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didn't know those chants came from the home crowd..fair enough
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24-08-10, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the rev leeroy brown
 a touch of class maybe, but not good enough to win the big one for us. let it go people.
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Disagree, you dont win La Liga if your not good enough.
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24-08-10, 03:59 PM
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I'd have him back in a heart beat.
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24-08-10, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SlovenianKopite
why?
what's done is done, roy's our manger now, forget rafa.
i found it a bit tastless last night when fans were chanting rafa's name..talk about a vote of confidence for roy..
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Why should I forget Rafa? Should I forget Shankly? Paisley? I'd still much rather he was our manager than not.
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24-08-10, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex
Disagree, you dont win La Liga if your not good enough.
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or you might if your predecessor assembles a team that goes to two CL finals, and then Real fuck up a 12 point lead..
anyhow rafa's gone, roy is here.
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24-08-10, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reece
Why should I forget Rafa? Should I forget Shankly? Paisley? I'd still much rather he was our manager than not.
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24-08-10, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Reece
Why should I forget Rafa? Should I forget Shankly? Paisley? I'd still much rather he was our manager than not.
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let the fact, he's no longer the manager of liverpool, go.
don't forget all the good things he's achieved, nor forget all the bickering, subborness etc.
he played a big part in getting the club to where it belongs, but he's no longer the manager, roy is
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24-08-10, 04:04 PM
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or you might if your predecessor assembles a team that goes to two CL finals, and then Real fuck up a 12 point lead..
anyhow rafa's gone, roy is here.
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Still won the thing though
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24-08-10, 04:05 PM
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Still won the thing though 
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Twice. Must've been two flukes.
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24-08-10, 04:05 PM
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Still won the thing though 
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i wish he'd done it at liverpool aswell
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24-08-10, 06:43 PM
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I'd really like to smack this cunt in the mouth.
Liverpool were in terminal decline under Rafael Benítez, says Jose Mourinho
Jose Mourinho claims Roy Hodgson is battling to achieve success at Liverpool with a team that became “worse, worse and worse” with each passing season of Rafael Benítez’s six-year reign at Anfield.
By Mark Ogden
Published: 4:25PM BST 24 Aug 2010
Liverpool’s 3-0 capitulation against Manchester City at Eastlands on Monday brought into sharp focus the problems facing Hodgson on the pitch at a club whose off-field future remains paralysed by the increasingly fruitless search for new owners.
With co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett driving the club heavily into debt since their 2007 takeover, Mourinho insists that Hodgson is faced with the unenviable situation of working with a team who have been on a progressive decline.
Monday’s defeat against City highlighted the challenge that Hodgson has taken on at Anfield, but with Roberto Mancini’s expensively-assembled team likely to be a direct rival in Liverpool’s attempt to secure Champions League football, former Chelsea manager Mourinho believes that the odds are stacked against Liverpool this season.
Mourinho said: “It is very difficult work for Roy to do it with Liverpool as, over the last years, they have been getting worse, worse and worse.
“The Liverpool of 2004 was better than the Liverpool of 2005, 2005 was better than 2006 and 2006 better than 2007. And they arrive at a situation now where, but for Jamie Carragher, Steven Gerrard, Pepe Reina, Fernando Torres, if his head is there, it is very difficult for Roy to make Liverpool champions.
“He needs time and it’s not easy because I don’t think they went in the right direction.”
Despite their financial problems and failure to qualify for the Champions League this season, Liverpool have been able to retain the services of Torres and Gerrard.
Mourinho’s Real Madrid had courted the services of Gerrard, while Chelsea and Manchester City both made clear their interest in luring Spanish forward Torres from Anfield.
But while City were ultimately unable to land Torres, Mourinho admits that the Abu Dhabi-fuelled spending power at Eastlands is unmatchable and the Real coach backs Mr. Ferguson’s warning of “kamikaze” spending.
Mourinho said: “When Mr Ferguson spoke about kamikaze spending, if he was talking about (City) eating the market, I agree with him. But if they have the money, they can do it and, if they have the ambition to win the Premier League, they can do it.
“If someone wants to compete with them for a player it is very difficult because they are dominant in the market.
“The player they say they want is the player that they get. I was interested in [Aleksandar] Kolarov when I came here to Madrid, but I couldn’t compete with City as they went to values that I couldn’t.”
Mourinho, who won two league titles with Chelsea during his three years in charge at Stamford Bridge, admits that City’s financial muscle has propelled them into the race for this season’s title. But the Portuguese insists it will be a three-horse race, having dismissed Arsenal’s prospects of ending their five-year wait for silverware.
Mourinho said: “I don’t think Arsenal can win. Year after year it looks like they will but no. It’s always the same type of comment, ‘It’s a young team, it will be next season’.
“I remember we played them in a Carling Cup final [in 2007] with a team of young boys, but they are no longer a team of young boys. They are now a team of 25, 26, 27-year-olds.
“Cesc Fabregas, Theo Walcott, Gael Clichy, Alex Song, Bacary Sagna – they’re not a team of kids any more, they’re of an age to win things, but I don’t think they will do it.
“I believe Chelsea and Manchester United can win the title and, of course, Manchester City because they have a great squad. That’s it.”
Having arrived at Real this summer after guiding Inter Milan to the treble last season, Mourinho could not resist another dig at his Benítez, his fierce rival from the pair’s time in England, by warning the former Liverpool manager that he will be unable to repeat his success at the San Siro.
Mourinho said: “Inter is a dream job because he has three trophies (to defend). I don’t have that at Madrid. He is lucky, but I wish him well.
“One thing is certain, Benítez won’t do better than me at Inter. Another thing is also true that, should he lift the Intercontinental Cup, he will have only won two games compared to my 13. Therefore it will be my trophy and not his.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-Mourinho.html
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24-08-10, 08:32 PM
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if Rafa is soo crap why is the special one soo worried by him?
he didnt worry about spending when he was chavs boss.
This is why i dont want him anywhere near our club. Classless
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24-08-10, 09:36 PM
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Rafa will be loving this, Maureen has been talking about him constantly, which proves that more than any other manager in Maureens career... Rafa got to him, he can't stand the thought of Rafa getting any credit from anyone...  must be eating away at him good style.  I bet every time he hears Maureen moaning about him Rafa does a shortened version of that little jig he did on stage for the Istanbul play....followed by a little jump and a click of his heels..... i can just see him now...
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