30-05-22, 01:14 PM
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If you fail once....
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I just think too many games took it's toll on a lot of the players. It was a long season and that will have taken its toll, perhaps more mentally that physically. There's a reason the quad is a never-been-done before event, I guess.
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30-05-22, 01:27 PM
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#9122
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Paisley
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by badpiggy
Is there nothing to said about the fact that he's lost 4 out of the five European Finals he's been in? Anyone willing to be devil's advocate here? Something to be said about Klopp's style of play not being suited to finals...? Anyone?
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You bite your tongue.......
I get what you are saying. And I think that there might be something in what others have said about his style of play having the players dead on their feet come May as well. There is a validity to that argument. Watching the game the other night, that was my feeling - that basically these players are fucked.
I think next season will be really interesting to see how he handles it with the fact that we will have 5 subs in league matches and also with the 6 week break for the world cup. Hopefully a lot of our players are not involved in the world cup and LFC can organise themselves really well for the 2nd half of the season next year.
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30-05-22, 02:04 PM
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#9123
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Paisley
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I see what others are saying but for the two topics:
- Klopp’s final record
We got to three finals this year and in all cases we were vs conservative vs the high risk game we normally play. I don’t know if this is instructions or the players bring extra cautious. I genuinely thought we’d go full power vs Madrid and run them off the pitch and flood their box. We played carefully in front of them - until he took Thiago and Hendo off we didn’t stretch them and make them defend last ditch. I wish we played the way we did en route to getting there - balls to the wall and go full throttle
Tired players - physically no, the minutes of the players have never been managed better. All players are around their ideal minutes level and we have a deep squad. If anything it might have been mentally draining - a huge game every 3 days…..all or nothing. As I said above we kind of went into our shell - I think the players were feeling the pressure a bit
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30-05-22, 03:08 PM
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#9124
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Not to be taken seriously
Join Date: Aug 2010
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We played well enough to have won the game. We just weren’t clinical enough.
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30-05-22, 03:11 PM
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Fagan
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
We played well enough to have won the game. We just weren’t clinical enough.
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 simple as- the discussion about whether it was klopps fault ends here.
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30-05-22, 04:16 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by ronanm
How many shots on target did we have in the three finals this year?
Carabao Cup = 13
FA Cup = 2 (from 17 shots)
CL = 9
FA Cup aside, hard to believe we did not score...
Klopp can't get on the end of chances. He looked absolutely knackered yesterday. Poor lad needs a rest.
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30-05-22, 11:35 PM
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Rocket Surgeon
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
We played well enough to have won the game. We just weren’t clinical enough.
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Their keeper played a blinder too tbf. The saves against Mane (onto the post) and Mo at the end were phenomenal.
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30-05-22, 11:38 PM
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#9128
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Paisley
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 10,252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pink
 simple as- the discussion about whether it was klopps fault ends here.
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i think to question Jurgen would be fuckin stupid. In reality we would have been lucky to even qualify for the champions league in the few years before Jurgen turned up. TO have 3 finals in 5 years is fuckin immense.
And he will totally know how to keep this team competitive while also freshening it up.
I was sick of football yesterday.........but by the weekend, I will be missing it again and counting the days until the start of next season
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30-05-22, 11:56 PM
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Fagan
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Originally Posted by frank the tank
i think to question Jurgen would be fuckin stupid. In reality we would have been lucky to even qualify for the champions league in the few years before Jurgen turned up. TO have 3 finals in 5 years is fuckin immense.
And he will totally know how to keep this team competitive while also freshening it up.
I was sick of football yesterday.........but by the weekend, I will be missing it again and counting the days until the start of next season
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I’ve no problem if people want to question him, but at least have a deeper analysis about what he supposedly is doing wrong rather than just saying he lost 4 out 5 European finals, over the past 10 or so years.. without going into all the finals, I don’t think he did anything wrong on Saturday- we were well on top, just couldn’t take our chances.
In terms of the squad maybe running out of steam, they have looked knackered but we’ve been the most in form team in the league over the last few months, and in general we seem to finish seasons much stronger than other teams- apart from 2020 when the title was wrapped up. No one would be talking about that if we’d won on Saturday, and we should have, if we’d just taken 1 of our chances.
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30-05-22, 11:58 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pink
I’ve no problem if people want to question him, but at least have a deeper analysis about what he supposedly is doing wrong rather than just saying he lost 4 out 5 European finals, over the past 10 or so years.. without going into all the finals, I don’t think he did anything wrong on Saturday- we were well on top, just couldn’t take our chances.
In terms of the squad maybe running out of steam, they have looked knackered but we’ve been the most in form team in the league over the last few months, and in general we seem to finish seasons much stronger than other teams- apart from 2020 when the title was wrapped up. No one would be talking about that if we’d won on Saturday, and we should have, if we’d just taken 1 of our chances.
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totally agree with ya.
I was sure we would get a fuckin equaliser and then go on to win it in extra time!!!
I think the 5 subs will be a game changer for us. Hopefully our young players will get more football and develop quicker and better.....whereas some of our others won't be flogged to death!!!
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31-05-22, 12:17 AM
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Run the Jewels
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banditos
Their keeper played a blinder too tbf. The saves against Mane (onto the post) and Mo at the end were phenomenal.
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If Pickford was playing in goal for them, we'd be holding the CL cup for sure.
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01-06-22, 07:18 AM
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Shankly
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 9,695
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never leave and never change
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01-06-22, 09:12 AM
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Paisley
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,074
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What a guy!
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01-06-22, 09:39 AM
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Shankly
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 8,640
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Can’t believe his dancing has got worse since he came here…
What a loon!
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02-06-22, 12:31 PM
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#9135
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Still sulking...
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,679
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His dancing is top draw!
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16-06-22, 12:50 PM
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Benitez
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16-06-22, 02:53 PM
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#9137
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Bite my shiny metal ass!
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36,775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Myo
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Thanks pal
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16-06-22, 08:34 PM
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#9138
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Donald Buzzworth 
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16-06-22, 08:39 PM
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Dan Ashcroft
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 55,671
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16-06-22, 09:09 PM
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Donald Buzzworth 
Join Date: Jun 2010
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  This is the sort of stuff that will bring Pep out in hives and give him anxiety dreams.
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16-06-22, 09:33 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,911
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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He’s the guy from…….. we saw the European cup, but Madrid had all the fucking luck
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16-06-22, 09:55 PM
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#9142
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Expect the Wurst
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16-06-22, 09:58 PM
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Expect the Wurst
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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It is definitely great as Liverpool fans but we can't ignore the crowd shot halfway through when the novelty had worn off and they all looked a bit unsure
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17-06-22, 02:44 AM
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#9144
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Benitez
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saveloy
It is definitely great as Liverpool fans but we can't ignore the crowd shot halfway through when the novelty had worn off and they all looked a bit unsure 
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We can definitely ignore that!
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17-06-22, 06:02 AM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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Does their name translate as 'the dead trousers'?
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17-06-22, 09:34 AM
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#9146
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I'm only the bassist
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzo
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That's absolutely mental 
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17-06-22, 04:53 PM
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#9147
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Token Yank
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
Does their name translate as 'the dead trousers'?
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yes. classic band, been around for ages.
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17-06-22, 06:40 PM
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#9148
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Donald Buzzworth 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 52,432
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Quote:
Originally Posted by little dave hedgehog
yes. classic band, been around for ages.
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 Yep, I have known of Die Toten Hosen for a lot longer than I have known of Klopp!
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17-06-22, 06:54 PM
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#9149
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Token Yank
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 29,161
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est 1982
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19-06-22, 07:37 PM
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#9150
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Befuddled
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,587
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I've just ordered all their albums from Amazon.
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19-06-22, 08:28 PM
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#9151
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 36,483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brightred
I've just ordered all their albums from Amazon.
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