16-05-22, 05:43 PM
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Fagan
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Jake Daniels
Well done lad. We will hopefully now move into a new era.
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16-05-22, 06:40 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Had to Google him
Totally agree
And Jake
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16-05-22, 08:07 PM
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Token Yank
Join Date: Mar 2009
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respect
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16-05-22, 08:07 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Yeah good for him, hope this can bring about a change and let more people in the game come out and tell people who they really are.
It takes alot of guts to do so respect to him
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16-05-22, 08:13 PM
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Donald Buzzworth 
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Good for him.
Hopefully his journey will encourage others to do the same.
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17-05-22, 07:38 AM
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Fagan
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Lad spoke very eloquently on his interview on Sky. 
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17-05-22, 07:44 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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I think it is sad that in 2022 that this is even a story.
A man or woman being gay, straight, bi , trans or whatever should really be a non story. It should simply be a case of peole being who they are and nobody bats an eyelid.
But we do not live in that world or at least a lot of people do not live in that world so the lad coming out as he did desrves kudos and I hope that him doing that in some way helps others who are in the same boat as he was.
Well done Jake. Soak in the praise you get and just blank out the knuckle
draggers. And more importantly than any of that, I hope you are with someone you love and who makes you feel loved, and if not I hope you find that in the future.
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17-05-22, 10:51 AM
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaco_Pastorious
I think it is sad that in 2022 that this is even a story.
A man or woman being gay, straight, bi , trans or whatever should really be a non story. It should simply be a case of peole being who they are and nobody bats an eyelid.
But we do not live in that world or at least a lot of people do not live in that world so the lad coming out as he did desrves kudos and I hope that him doing that in some way helps others who are in the same boat as he was.
Well done Jake. Soak in the praise you get and just blank out the knuckle
draggers. And more importantly than any of that, I hope you are with someone you love and who makes you feel loved, and if not I hope you find that in the future.
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17-05-22, 11:27 AM
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Anti-Antipodeanite
Join Date: May 2007
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Really shouldn't be a big deal. Unfortunately it is a huge one.
Let's hope people really support him now and it might make it easier for others to come out publicly if they want to!
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17-05-22, 12:02 PM
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Donald Buzzworth 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 52,432
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We are where we are.
Attitudes are changing (at least on the surface) this will be the acid test of how progressive football crowds are. It will play out well in the media at first, but the reality is everything else is untested. I have my doubts that football fans en masse and society is as progressive as we want it to be.
Which is why it is a big deal. I saw him interviewed this morning and he is an incredibly articulate young man. The great thing about his youth is that he perhaps isnt quite as aware of the massive step he is forcing football to take.
Good on him for being so brave, hopefully his actions encourage the others that have not felt enabled to come out to do so.
And then, one day in the future this sort of thing will not have to be a talking point at all.
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17-05-22, 12:28 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Mar 2008
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totally agree Buzzo......hopefully when he gets abuse at grounds the rest of the crowd show more support and drown out the idiots.....
Fair play to the fella.
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17-05-22, 02:35 PM
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Paisley 
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I think football grounds in the UK will be absolutely fine, Any idiots will be drowned out and singled out same as the racist abuse.
I would worry if a higher profile player came out, how he would be treated in some less progressive ountries
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17-05-22, 02:53 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
Really shouldn't be a big deal. Unfortunately it is a huge one.
Let's hope people really support him now and it might make it easier for others to come out publicly if they want to!
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18-05-22, 05:01 PM
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Donald Buzzworth 
Join Date: Jun 2010
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 Yep. Only took a few days for the bubble to burst.
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18-05-22, 06:41 PM
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Est1892's Fire Warden
Join Date: Jul 2006
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You'd like to think in 2022 it wouldn't matter but given the level of intellect of lots of fans I think he's likely to get a fair old amount of stick.
Sad.
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18-05-22, 06:46 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
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Not much hope when homosexuality is a crime in Senegal, amongst other places. Why are some people so frightened of homosexuals?
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18-05-22, 08:04 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Oct 2010
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There are large parts of the world where the surface has hardly been scratched in terms of progress and tolerance. The replies to social media posts highlight that very much. Several of our fans included although I comfort myself believing they support a player and will move on from LFC when the player does
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18-05-22, 09:38 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
Not much hope when homosexuality is a crime in Senegal, amongst other places. Why are some people so frightened of homosexuals?
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And yet backward fuckers who share the views of the law makers of their home countries don't stay in the homophobic utopias they came from. Strange that.
Same goes for owners and sponsors of clubs that hail from countries that ban sexuality. Maybe stick to owning stuff in your own countries and don't come to countries where sexuality is not illegal if such think offends them so much.
Odin knows why people are scared of something as basic as another person's sexuality. Ignorance? Lack of education? Hatred? Religious dogma?
All I know is that it is that way of thinking baffles me and offends me in equal amounts.
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19-05-22, 07:20 AM
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Big Girl's Blouse
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaco_Pastorious
And yet backward fuckers who share the views of the law makers of their home countries don't stay in the homophobic utopias they came from. Strange that.
Same goes for owners and sponsors of clubs that hail from countries that ban sexuality. Maybe stick to owning stuff in your own countries and don't come to countries where sexuality is not illegal if such think offends them so much.
Odin knows why people are scared of something as basic as another person's sexuality. Ignorance? Lack of education? Hatred? Religious dogma?
All I know is that it is that way of thinking baffles me and offends me in equal amounts.
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19-05-22, 07:28 AM
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Run the Jewels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
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And yet if a footballer refused to swap shirts with another player because they were Muslim there'd be fucking outrage.
Being gay isn't a choice, following one or more of the 2,000 available gods is a choice.
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19-05-22, 07:48 AM
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Big Girl's Blouse
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I think this is probably hardest for the guy men that are also Muslim, living under a shadow of fear.
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19-05-22, 08:06 AM
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Run the Jewels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
I think this is probably hardest for the gay men that are also Muslim, living under a shadow of fear.
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I think it's the same for anyone born into a religious culture. Can you imaging an NFL player in Texas coming out? Yeah fuck that.
It's easy to blame this on religion but it's more than that. Some people can't handle 'different', it makes them uncomfortable and they lash out. They're weak minded.
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19-05-22, 08:16 AM
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Big Girl's Blouse
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I think I'd be weak minded if my fate was to be murdered with a burning tyre around my neck or stoned, tbf
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19-05-22, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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He was calling the small minded homophobes weak minded though, not those who cannot come out for fear of their lives or that of their loved ones.
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19-05-22, 08:00 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Oh yeah, soz FB, my bad
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20-05-22, 02:43 AM
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Run the Jewels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
I think I'd be weak minded if my fate was to be murdered with a burning tyre around my neck or stoned, tbf
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FFS, I think you seriously misunderstood my post..
UPDATE: Yes you did
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