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Old 18-10-20, 09:09 PM   #41
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Oh, the wee prick is having a dig at me. Which is odd as i haven't posted in this thread yet. But he's an odd fella at the best of times.
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Old 18-10-20, 09:13 PM   #42
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Keep hearing this is like the Laporte situation with City last season but it’s nothing like it imo. Firstly Van Dijk is top 3 players in the world. He’s up there with Messi and Ronaldo. Secondly, it was assault. Laporte’s injury came about innocuously which we would have all accepted in better spirit. Even a 50/50 challenge. This was just pure recklessness with complete disregard for a fellow professional.
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Old 18-10-20, 09:23 PM   #43
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If our goal was not ruled out Villa would go top with a win. When was the last time they topped the top division?
Villa the only team left with a 100% record
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Old 18-10-20, 09:41 PM   #44
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Our next 5 league matches are Sheffield Utd, West Ham, Man City, Leicester and Brighton.

If we come out of that lot with 11 points then I think we're doing just fine. 13 points and we're doing very well. 15 points and we're front runners for the league.
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Old 18-10-20, 09:45 PM   #45
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I predict 10. Where does that leave us?
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Old 18-10-20, 10:16 PM   #46
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If you look at the start we have had, we have played 3 out of the top 5 and Leeds, Which will be a tough game for many.

Its not going to be a run away for any team this year, But no way can i see any of the likes of Everton/villa/spurs/chelsea/arsenal being 30 points better than they were last season.

Still City and Liverpool for me, Unless Alysson isn;t back soon or sustains another injury than we are fucked!!
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Old 18-10-20, 10:33 PM   #47
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I predict 10. Where does that leave us?
I guess it depends on who we lose to. If it's Man City and Leicester then we're floundering a bit. If it's one of the others then we're still in the mix.
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Old 18-10-20, 11:09 PM   #48
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4 out of those next 5 are at home. Only City away. I reckon 12 points is very doable.
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Old 18-10-20, 11:13 PM   #49
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4 out of those next 5 are at home. Only City away. I reckon 12 points is very doable.
Does it make much difference where the games are at present?
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Does it make much difference where the games are at present?


Absolutely not it seems
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Old 18-10-20, 11:20 PM   #51
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Does it make much difference where the games are at present?
Well, we’ve not lost at home for over 3 seasons or whatever, so it is still a ‘fortress’.

Even though you’ve not got the fans, you also don’t have travel, you have familiarity. I still think it makes a difference.
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Old 18-10-20, 11:26 PM   #52
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Sorry, but this thread is a silly knee jerk reaction to a terrible injury! The lads will adapt, perhaps one of our younger defenders will prove themselves (like Trent), and nothing is over until its mathematically impossible!
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We might not suffer from it in every game, perhaps every 5th game, but you can't lose a player like Virg and not suffer at all
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Old 19-10-20, 07:17 AM   #54
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Keep hearing this is like the Laporte situation with City last season but it’s nothing like it imo. Firstly Van Dijk is top 3 players in the world. He’s up there with Messi and Ronaldo. Secondly, it was assault. Laporte’s injury came about innocuously which we would have all accepted in better spirit. Even a 50/50 challenge. This was just pure recklessness with complete disregard for a fellow professional.
Also Citeh added LaPotty when they’d already spunked £670bn on defenders. The cunts.
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Old 19-10-20, 07:19 AM   #55
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Also Citeh added LaPotty when they’d already spunked £670bn on defenders. The cunts.
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Old 19-10-20, 07:40 AM   #56
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Optimist - this glass is half full.
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2020- It's piss in the glass anyway.
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Old 19-10-20, 08:06 AM   #57
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Title is gone. We have Gomez who is awful in the air and vastly overrated, Matip injury prone and Fabinho a utility centre back. It's obvious. It's gone.
Would u go and fuck off. You would swear we were only a one man team.

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I think he's just kidding, he does it for effect
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Old 19-10-20, 08:55 AM   #59
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TBF Fredo’s lonely child that wets himself looking for attention style posting is a bit grating.
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Old 19-10-20, 08:57 AM   #60
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I think he's whoosed a few people with this comments
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He has & often does but what’s the point? It’s not constructive. People are upset and have a right to be so.

OK the thread title is a bit melodramatic but that’s already been pointed out.

My take? Defence ain’t over but that’s as big a dent as it could’ve taken given the injured party and length of time out, plus people’s ability to recover from these things.
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Old 19-10-20, 09:07 AM   #62
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I think its worth stating again that what's getting served up in the league at the moment is a pale imitation of football.

It's really shit.
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Old 19-10-20, 09:15 AM   #63
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I think its worth stating again that what's getting served up in the league at the moment is a pale imitation of football.

It's really shit.


It's not been the same since we came back from lockdown.
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Old 19-10-20, 09:30 AM   #64
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Not sure where this leaves us regarding winning the league again, but not hearing that it is over, City have their problems too, we'll be having a closer fight now and while this is a setback we might see some players raising their game. Would not rule out us buying a new centre half in January either.

Every set back has made this team raise their game so far, this is a different challenge but the guys will adjust, no doubt in my mind.
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Old 19-10-20, 09:55 AM   #65
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It’s going to be a crazy weird season. I reckon 85 points wins you it this year.

If VVD is out for the season I can’t see us winning it but we will still be there or thereabouts
Agree. Buckle up. We're in for the most batshit-mental and random season ever IMO. This is unprecedented times and there'll be lots more daft results. No one walks away with it this year. I'd say it's nigh on impossible to predict who'll win it, if it even gets finished at all.
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Old 19-10-20, 10:19 AM   #66
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I think its worth stating again that what's getting served up in the league at the moment is a pale imitation of football.

It's really shit.
Do you mean by us or by everyone?
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Old 19-10-20, 10:35 AM   #67
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VVD is irreplaceable. His injury puts additional demand on all parts of the team. Without him we'll miss 5-7 goals a season and his ridiculous dominance in the air as well as his strength in the 1:1.

But most of all, I think the team will miss his passing. The cross field balls he can play to the front three are a big part of our game and make it harder for opponents to pressure the team.

The good news is that Matip and Gomez are great players in their own right who are comfortable with the ball at feet and both are pacey, decent passers. Matip is also a beast aerially.

IF both could stay fit, there's still a great chance to win the league in my opinion although that's a big if given their injury record.

Whichever way you cut it though, all players have to lift their game now, particularly the forwards and occasional goal scoring midfielders because we will concede more goals now.

Lots of different ways to win matches though and the rest of the team is basically world class so it's doable. No way is it over yet.
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VVD is irreplaceable. His injury puts additional demand on all parts of the team. Without him we'll miss 5-7 goals a season and his ridiculous dominance in the air as well as his strength in the 1:1.

But most of all, I think the team will miss his passing. The cross field balls he can play to the front three are a big part of our game and make it harder for opponents to pressure the team.

The good news is that Matip and Gomez are great players in their own right who are comfortable with the ball at feet and both are pacey, decent passers. Matip is also a beast aerially.

IF both could stay fit, there's still a great chance to win the league in my opinion although that's a big if given their injury record.

Whichever way you cut it though, all players have to lift their game now, particularly the forwards and occasional goal scoring midfielders because we will concede more goals now.

Lots of different ways to win matches though and the rest of the team is basically world class so it's doable. No way is it over yet.
His biggest asset is his availability - he never misses games
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Could be the making of the likes of Gomez this. His improvement has been huge over the last 2 years, I don’t think anyone was suggesting him as an international class CB until he began as one 2 summers ago. Matip, Fabinho and to a lesser extent Gomez seem quite quiet guys so someone needs to lead. I think it’s time for Gomez to step forward.

The other problem for me is that Virgil has played left side CB for 2.5 years. Who ever has played with him has always played right side. Someone will need to learn that position quickly.
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Matip gone for a scan on foot injury this morning ...................
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Do you mean by us or by everyone?
Everybody. Just isn't football as we know it. More akin to watching training matches.

This bollocks about wanting to see "more goals" which is peddled by Sky and the rest is bullshit. No one wants to see 4-4s every week. We'd watch basketball or American football is we wanted to see constant scoring.

Football is about nuance; about scoring great goals, but also stopping goals, about building pressure and hunting for that winning goal.

The lack of pressure on players - just turns it into training ground stuff.

It also levels the playing field - as those talented players that do suffer from the pressure of the crowd suddenly try stuff they'd never dream of doing in a full stadium.

So, yeah, this currently getting served up is shit.

And that's not even going into the shitfest of VAR.
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Oh for Fucks sake

Gomez and Fabinho it is then...
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Gomez and Fabinho it is then...
Yes. Even though Matip is not injured. But it is only Monday.
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