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Old 01-12-20, 06:49 PM   #8881
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Do you have anything constructive to contribute or ask? Otherwise it's a fair opinion because we all have one, but weird place/context to voice it.
My original reply above was a fairly lengthy post querying what it was people found enjoyable about boxing but I removed it as I found it difficult to verbalise in a way which wouldn’t have riled some people.

You’re right though, what I ended up posting was a waste of time - sorry!
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Old 02-12-20, 12:03 AM   #8882
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My original reply above was a fairly lengthy post querying what it was people found enjoyable about boxing but I removed it as I found it difficult to verbalise in a way which wouldn’t have riled some people.

You’re right though, what I ended up posting was a waste of time - sorry!
No stress, was just curious. You're wondering if we're all psycho, passive aggressive masochists for enjoying such a 'violent' sport?

In short, for me it's about the competition, skill, techniques, strategy determination, tactics and showmanship. As mentioned before, I had a couple of amateur bouts at light welterweight and I don't think I've ever been so 'up' for anything. Not just the fight, the training, camaraderie for an individual sport and a weird inner belief that you're pretty good (not that I was particularly). Also a sense of your own mortality/vulnerability - both emotionally and physically.

To witness 2 domesticated/sophisticated humans go full primal and put everything on the line to write their legacy and obscene amount of money for our entertainment purposes is exhilarating. It's controlled aggression; calm, calculated and nothing like a bar fight. The characters involved are often interesting because it takes a special breed to voluntarily do this for a profession, therefore automatically a lot of them make really fascinating media characters.
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Old 07-12-20, 01:43 AM   #8883
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Old 07-12-20, 07:12 AM   #8884
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WTF? I'm no expert but this seems like a bit of an embarrassing mismatch, is it for charity or something?
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Old 07-12-20, 08:57 AM   #8885
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Old 07-12-20, 02:59 PM   #8886
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Old 08-12-20, 08:32 AM   #8887
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It's not a proper fight, not going on Mayweather's record. Still, it's a farce regardless.
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Old 08-12-20, 08:39 AM   #8888
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Old 08-12-20, 01:48 PM   #8889
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No stress, was just curious. You're wondering if we're all psycho, passive aggressive masochists for enjoying such a 'violent' sport?

In short, for me it's about the competition, skill, techniques, strategy determination, tactics and showmanship. As mentioned before, I had a couple of amateur bouts at light welterweight and I don't think I've ever been so 'up' for anything. Not just the fight, the training, camaraderie for an individual sport and a weird inner belief that you're pretty good (not that I was particularly). Also a sense of your own mortality/vulnerability - both emotionally and physically.

To witness 2 domesticated/sophisticated humans go full primal and put everything on the line to write their legacy and obscene amount of money for our entertainment purposes is exhilarating. It's controlled aggression; calm, calculated and nothing like a bar fight. The characters involved are often interesting because it takes a special breed to voluntarily do this for a profession, therefore automatically a lot of them make really fascinating media characters.



Balls to that. A couple litres of years out of date White Lightning whilst sat in the park and then shout at the other drunks until someone offers you a straightener. Now THAT'S the sweet science.
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Old 09-12-20, 10:54 AM   #8890
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Old 09-12-20, 11:11 AM   #8891
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Balls to that. A couple litres of years out of date White Lightning whilst sat in the park and then shout at the other drunks until someone offers you a straightener. Now THAT'S the sweet science.
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Anyone on here box themselves?
Well as mentioned, I briefly had a few amateur and white collar bouts. Trained and sparred in gyms for a several years but nothing of note. I'm really interested in getting into training fighters, so considering trying to do a 4 rounder next year. I'm in my mid 30s so a bit old to trying to turn pro - but it would be for educational/empathy reasons. It's not much but I would find it difficult (credibility wise) to instruct others without having stepped into the ring with small gloves and no headgear myself.

I vaguely recall Jaco saying he was a decent heavy at some point and considered turning pro. He can correct me if I'm wrong. Not sure about anyone else.
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Old 09-12-20, 12:26 PM   #8892
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I boxed as a youth at a good club (our captain was an 8 x ABA winner and commonwealth gold winner) but drifted out of it when "distractions" came along. Did a fair bit of thai boxing in my twenties - far too old now to even consider anything but made sure my son knew how to throw a right hand by taking him to a local club for a couple of years age 8-10.
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Old 09-12-20, 12:37 PM   #8893
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Well as mentioned, I briefly had a few amateur and white collar bouts. Trained and sparred in gyms for a several years but nothing of note. I'm really interested in getting into training fighters, so considering trying to do a 4 rounder next year. I'm in my mid 30s so a bit old to trying to turn pro - but it would be for educational/empathy reasons. It's not much but I would find it difficult (credibility wise) to instruct others without having stepped into the ring with small gloves and no headgear myself.

I vaguely recall Jaco saying he was a decent heavy at some point and considered turning pro. He can correct me if I'm wrong. Not sure about anyone else.


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Old 13-12-20, 12:02 AM   #8894
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Another riveting heavyweight contest with about 5 punches landed in the first 2 rounds.
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Old 13-12-20, 12:08 AM   #8895
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Really is shite stuff although I think we all expected it beforehand to be fair.
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Old 20-12-20, 06:06 AM   #8896
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Watching the Smith vs Canelo fight, my god the commentary on DAZN is dreadful, spent the first 6 rounds just talking about Canelo.
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Old 20-12-20, 06:31 AM   #8897
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Impressive from Canelo, clear winner of that fight, looks incredibly comfortable at that weight which is nuts in itself.
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Old 20-12-20, 06:46 AM   #8898
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Impressive from Canelo, clear winner of that fight, looks incredibly comfortable at that weight which is nuts in itself.
Definitely a candidate for the juice, people have been saying it for years. Would be shocked if he's clean.

Woke up still drunk and forgot about it. Only caught the last round. See almost everyone had Smith losing every round. Bit disappointing considering he's been speaking so much these last few years then completely bottles his first big test.
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Looked like Smith had an arm injury - not that it would have made much difference against the talented juicer.
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Old 20-12-20, 03:18 PM   #8900
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Definitely a candidate for the juice, people have been saying it for years. Would be shocked if he's clean.

Woke up still drunk and forgot about it. Only caught the last round. See almost everyone had Smith losing every round. Bit disappointing considering he's been speaking so much these last few years then completely bottles his first big test.


I imagine his pee glows in the dark.
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Old Yesterday, 09:05 AM   #8901
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Looks like it will be very well made and Frank will no doubt be hyped to the rafters in it as the world class but still Plucky underdog going up against a prime Tyson..

But seem to recall that fight as being the early stages of Tyson buying into his own hype and ignoring things like his lovely head movement, his perfect transistions between defence and attack, and his at times underrated footwork. Him becoming pretty much a brute force artist that kept looking for that big knock out shout. Basically a past his best Tyson in terms of attitude and certainly in terms of application of technique

Also recall a horrible amount of hype trying to persuede the public that Frank Bruno was a world class perfromer and an all round Mr Nice guy.


Must watch the fight again, but think Bruno did ok against a less that stellar Tyson performance but time seems to have made getting stopped in the 4th or 5th round out to be some sort of massive triumph and I remember him being stopped even quicker in the rematch.
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Found the fight so figured might as well pop it up.

LMAO at the second comment "I wish a woman would hold me the way Frank Bruno holds mike Tyson"
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Old Yesterday, 02:16 PM   #8904
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As I remember it - and I haven't seen the fight back since - it was Bruno's "HE'S HURT TYSON!" moment that feeds most of the triumphant or 'nearly' narrative for Bruno. Harry Carpenter roaring "HE'S HURT TYSON!" in the first round...me and me Dad on our feet. Haha. Great days.
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Watched the fight back and damn had forgotten just how much holding and hitting in the clinches Bruno did. Tyson was also a lot worse than I remembered. No finesse at all, just loading up for the big shot over and over. He was just so open to being hit, as we found out a few fights later when he took on a much better big heavyweight than Bruno. Was also interesting that Tyson showed no fear at all for Bruno's vaunted power.


You are right about that nearly moment feeding the narrative that Bruno almost had him, but in reality he just briefly stunned Tyson and never had Tyson in any real trouble.

Watched the second fight as well and that one was over in the third round.

My own take on Bruno was he was very limited, very mechanical and for the most part carefully matched but brilliantly marketed. Like a taller more mechancial Bruce Seldon albeit with the public hoodwinked into thinking he was top class. He was not a crap boxer, but the reality for me is that he was a mid tier heavy that was promoted so so well.

Even that comment from Bruno from the documentary about how he would have reigned supreme shows the sort of delusion that the public was spoon fed about Bruno.
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I remember it well also, it was my first experience of how late you had to stay up to watch US prime time boxing.

Harry Carpenter was such a memorable commentator and he truly cared and worried for Frank, that line was so hopeful.


Kevin Macdonald is a brilliant documentary maker - that looks excellent.
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