18-11-08, 08:36 PM
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Baron Münchhausen
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maradona
and all this nonsense with terry butcher
anyone think "butch" is looking a bit of a tit giving it the i wont shake his hand shite
ffs if the sweaty socks beat ingerland to win the world cup with such a move would he give it the billy big bollix then ?
fuck off "butch" shake the wee mans hand - he was to many the greatest player ever
btw by putting maradona in charge is that the equivalent to putting gazza in charge of ingerland ?
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18-11-08, 09:29 PM
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Shankly
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Maradona hits back by saying...
New Argentinian coach Diego Maradona has re-opened an old debate by saying Geoff Hurst's controversial World Cup final goal in 1966 never crossed the line.
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18-11-08, 09:36 PM
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Baron Münchhausen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanks007
Maradona hits back by saying...
New Argentinian coach Diego Maradona has re-opened an old debate by saying Geoff Hurst's controversial World Cup final goal in 1966 never crossed the line.
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and diego knows a line alreet
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19-11-08, 12:51 AM
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Paisley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elvoz
and diego knows a line alreet 
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19-11-08, 12:59 AM
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Touching cloth
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19-11-08, 01:07 AM
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El Pistolero
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elvoz
and all this nonsense with terry butcher
anyone think "butch" is looking a bit of a tit giving it the i wont shake his hand shite
ffs if the sweaty socks beat ingerland to win the world cup with such a move would he give it the billy big bollix then ?
fuck off "butch" shake the wee mans hand - he was to many the greatest player ever
btw by putting maradona in charge is that the equivalent to putting gazza in charge of ingerland ?
el voz
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scotland 
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lmao at the end bit.
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19-11-08, 10:49 AM
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Passion for fire alarms or extinguishers?
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 - thats exactly what me and my mates discussed at the pub the other day, having maradona in charge would just be like England having Gazza :laugh:
Been listening to talk sport recently and the bookies they have on (paddy power, coral) have slashed the odds from argentina being favourites to win the next world cup, don to like 5th favourites since maradona took over.
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19-11-08, 10:53 AM
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Baron Münchhausen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PTP
 - thats exactly what me and my mates discussed at the pub the other day, having maradona in charge would just be like England having Gazza :laugh:
Been listening to talk sport recently and the bookies they have on (paddy power, coral) have slashed the odds from argentina being favourites to win the next world cup, don to like 5th favourites since maradona took over.
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i was on there the other night talking bout stevie g
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19-11-08, 10:58 AM
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Passion for fire alarms or extinguishers?
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saying?
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19-11-08, 11:12 AM
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Baron Münchhausen
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Originally Posted by PTP
saying?
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the knob on it was saying stevie needed ingerland more than liverpool
i put him right
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19-11-08, 02:51 PM
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humourless curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PTP
 - thats exactly what me and my mates discussed at the pub the other day, having maradona in charge would just be like England having Gazza :laugh:
Been listening to talk sport recently and the bookies they have on (paddy power, coral) have slashed the odds from argentina being favourites to win the next world cup, don to like 5th favourites since maradona took over.
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I largely agree with that although Maradonna seems to have better people around him now and as a figure head I imagine it could work (essentially a Klinsmann - Low partnership with even more emphasis on the deputy or deputies).
Also Argentina have got a surfeit of talent and established pattern of play so maybe someone with strong ideas and motivational skills is more what they need than a truly excellent coach.
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19-11-08, 02:52 PM
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humourless curmudgeon
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Butcher is being a tit.
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19-11-08, 02:53 PM
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Prosecco Socialist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dww
Butcher is being a tit.
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Leopard/spots.
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May the Lord bless this post.
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19-11-08, 03:01 PM
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Fagan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dww
Butcher is being a tit.
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 Answers the original post rather succinctly.
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19-11-08, 03:03 PM
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Paisley
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That poisonous horrible little shit shouldnt be in charge of a prisoner's chain gang. There are few people I dislike more than him.
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19-11-08, 03:23 PM
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El Pistolero
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kev776
That poisonous horrible little shit shouldnt be in charge of a prisoner's chain gang. There are few people I dislike more than him.
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Butcher isn't in charge though is he? I think George Burley is the Manager.
Agree with your sentiment though.
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20-11-08, 12:30 AM
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Benitez
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Maradonna is a shit stirring cheating little prick
Butcher ought to grow up though
Shake his hand and break all the fingers on his 'hand of God'
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25-11-20, 05:57 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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25-11-20, 05:59 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Still remember this as if it were yesterday.
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25-11-20, 06:00 PM
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Micka "don't f*** with me" Wallace
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Christ
Total lunatic but probably the best footballer the world has ever seen imo.
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25-11-20, 06:01 PM
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Shankly
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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Noooooooooo - saw this bumped  an absolute legend - the anti hero - grew up watching football Italia at Maradona in the Napoli shirt is engrained in my memory. I clearly remember Mexico 86........shine on you crazy diamond
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25-11-20, 06:05 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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He didn't bring a smile to my face in 1986
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25-11-20, 06:06 PM
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Paisley
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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First major international tournament I can remember. What a player he was.
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25-11-20, 06:06 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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He was absolute box office. Rock n roll. No fucks given. Maverick. Genius.
Had anyone watched his documentary? It’s brilliant.
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25-11-20, 06:08 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
First major international tournament I can remember. What a player he was.
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Same. I remember ‘82 a bit, but I was only 7.
That game v England was pure Maradona. Zero fucks given and absolute insane talent.
And then what he did with Napoli was absolutely stunning.
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25-11-20, 06:12 PM
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Dressed up as Batman?
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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Same. Me and my Dad. I think I was wide-eyed with my head in my hands. I remember my Dad going "WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" and I was just open mouthed. Must've been similar reactions all over England.
Remember how good he was against Belgium
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25-11-20, 06:21 PM
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Paisley
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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Yeah, it was on channel 4 earlier in the year.
Well worth checking out for anyone who hasn't seen it.
He went totally off the rails at Napoli. Probably the worst club in the worst he could have joined. Drugs and the Camorra What could go wrong?
Here's a great article on his time there and the documentary
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...es-documentary
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25-11-20, 06:22 PM
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Paisley
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Originally Posted by Buzzo
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Aye.....was brilliant, just like he was.
Seem to recall the Gary Lineker one being decent before
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25-11-20, 06:24 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy
Same. Me and my Dad. I think I was wide-eyed with my head in my hands. I remember my Dad going "WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" and I was just open mouthed. Must've been similar reactions all over England.
Remember how good he was against Belgium 
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I remember thinking (obviously with a slightly different POV) that the hand ball goal was a problem. Imagining the media narrative if he had won it with that. I mean it was bonkers anyway but that... just after the war.... it felt like he knew that, and that the way he could fix it was by scoring one of the most beautiful and audacious goals you’ve ever seen. It was staggering. I’d never seen a player just get the ball, run at goal, beat everyone and score!!!
The only other goal that left me like that was Van Bastens volley.
He dismantled a very good Belgium team with similar skills. I absolutely adored him. And he was a rebel  His love of the marching powder clearly had a lasting effects, the doc alludes to a lot of his late nights with the Mafia when he was playing the day after  He was nuts. Didn’t know how to say ‘no’.
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25-11-20, 06:30 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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25-11-20, 06:31 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishnev
Noooooooooo - saw this bumped  an absolute legend - the anti hero - grew up watching football Italia at Maradona in the Napoli shirt is engrained in my memory. I clearly remember Mexico 86........shine on you crazy diamond
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25-11-20, 06:35 PM
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Paisley
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25-11-20, 06:42 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Originally Posted by McDermotX
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 You can tell he is absolutely loving this.
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25-11-20, 06:44 PM
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Not to be taken seriously
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Fuck. He's the greatest. My idol when I was a kid.
RIP Diegito.
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25-11-20, 06:45 PM
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Dressed up as Batman?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzo
I remember thinking (obviously with a slightly different POV) that the hand ball goal was a problem. Imagining the media narrative if he had won it with that. I mean it was bonkers anyway but that... just after the war.... it felt like he knew that, and that the way he could fix it was by scoring one of the most beautiful and audacious goals you’ve ever seen. It was staggering. I’d never seen a player just get the ball, run at goal, beat everyone and score!!!
The only other goal that left me like that was Van Bastens volley.
He dismantled a very good Belgium team with similar skills. I absolutely adored him. And he was a rebel  His love of the marching powder clearly had a lasting effects, the doc alludes to a lot of his late nights with the Mafia when he was playing the day after  He was nuts. Didn’t know how to say ‘no’.
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He and the rest of Argentina probably enjoyed the first goal even more. 'viveza criolla' at its best
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Loosely translated as ‘native cunning’, viveza criolla is the art of mischievous deception particular to Uruguay and Argentina. In the words of anthropologist Eduardo P. Archetti, it encourages a “capacity to cheat where necessary”.
One of its central principles is to “gain a psychological edge wherever and whenever possible” – and, rather wonderfully, it is all the more welcome if it is against your biggest rivals. Daniel Rosa, a journalist with Uruguayan publication El Pais, said:
"There’s an expression in Uruguay about how you want to win. If it’s in the last minute and with a moment that enrages your opponent, all the better. That is viveza: knowing how to gain any advantage."
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25-11-20, 06:48 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Originally Posted by Shaggy
He and the rest of Argentina probably enjoyed the first goal even more. 'viveza criolla' at its best 
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 Wow. I just listened to the translation of this in his Lineker interview, but, I didnt know it was part of the culture!
You can't compete with that. You have to, begrudgingly admire it.
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25-11-20, 06:49 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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I can't recall the details (it is in the documentary) exactly, but that fight was connected to this, slightly late, slightly high, shocker.
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25-11-20, 06:50 PM
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Dressed up as Batman?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzo
 Wow. I just listened to the translation of this in his Lineker interview, but, I didnt know it was part of the culture!
You can't compete with that. You have to, begrudgingly admire it.
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Absolutely. It entirely explains away Luis Suarez as well.
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25-11-20, 06:51 PM
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Paisley
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More from Brazil legend Pele.
"What sad news. I lost a great friend and the world lost a legend. There is still much to be said, but for now, may God give strength to family members. One day, I hope we can play ball together in the sky."
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That's a wonderful last sentence.
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25-11-20, 06:51 PM
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Donald Buzzworth
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Originally Posted by Shaggy
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Based on this, he must have mainly been wondering what all the fuss was about?
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