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Old 20-12-20, 08:43 AM   #2441
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Crap first half, much improved second half.
struggled in the first half but when the game opened up, he had a lot of time and space to pretty much do what he wanted. Was like a training session in the second half for us to be honest though.
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Old 28-12-20, 07:37 AM   #2442
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No value for money with this guy, injured once again. I will be very surprised if he isn't moved on in the summer on loan, maybe get the value back up. Players like him and Matip simply cannot handle the rigors of the premier league.
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Old 28-12-20, 08:14 AM   #2443
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Yeah I do like the guy but this is just ridiculous. Anymore injuries before the end of the season and I’d sell him.
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Old 28-12-20, 08:17 AM   #2444
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If he wasnt here it would make zero difference as he is hardly ever available and brings zero to the squad.

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Old 28-12-20, 04:22 PM   #2445
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a disaster of a signing ...so so much promise but seemingly always injured
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Old 28-12-20, 04:44 PM   #2446
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What would we get for him £20m?
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Old 28-12-20, 04:51 PM   #2447
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What would we get for him £20m?
I'd be amazed anyone would offer that. He's been a bad version of Lallana.
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Old 28-12-20, 08:14 PM   #2448
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I think a German club might give us 30 million for him based on previous form in Germany

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Old 28-12-20, 08:18 PM   #2449
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Iíd be surprised if heís sold this summer.
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Old 28-12-20, 09:06 PM   #2450
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Iíd be surprised if heís sold this summer.
If Klopp needs to move him on to provide funds for another transfer - no question he will.
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Old 28-12-20, 09:30 PM   #2451
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If Klopp needs to move him on to provide funds for another transfer - no question he will.
Yeah I agree. If Gini goes I see Jones as his replacement but weíve got a few out on loan that I think will be sold or loaned out again if no buyers are found. Weíve got too many permacrocs in midfield unfortunately
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Old 28-12-20, 09:50 PM   #2452
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We canít just move players without replacing them.
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Old 29-12-20, 09:45 AM   #2453
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I agree. We should have replaced Lovren.

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Old 29-12-20, 11:17 AM   #2454
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Old 07-01-21, 07:23 PM   #2455
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Injured again. Fuck off.

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Old 07-01-21, 07:31 PM   #2456
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Might as well sell him. Pains me to say it tbh but if we can find a taker - and I reckon Bundesliga clubs would be queuing up to sign him - we should sell. A drain on resources at this point.
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Old 07-01-21, 07:41 PM   #2457
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I think heís unlucky. I donít understand how the clubís medical staff canít get to the bottom of his injuries though and heís not the first one weíve transformed into a crock.
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Old 07-01-21, 07:42 PM   #2458
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And the shame with Naby is heís going to go somewhere else and play regularly and become a world beater.
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Old 07-01-21, 07:44 PM   #2459
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Almost certainly. Very frustrating.
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Old 07-01-21, 07:50 PM   #2460
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And the shame with Naby is heís going to go somewhere else and play regularly and become a world beater.
I hope he does recover either way, but Iím not sure why his injury issues would going magically clear up by signing for a new club?
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Old 07-01-21, 07:59 PM   #2461
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I hope he does recover either way, but Iím not sure why his injury issues would going magically clear up by signing for a new club?

Because he wasnít injury prone before. Muscle related injuries can be fixed by understanding why in the first place itís recurring. I donít understand why weíve not come to the bottom of it in his case. He obviously canít fix himself on his own and heís only 25.
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Old 07-01-21, 08:08 PM   #2462
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No brainer innit. Injured most of the time and meh when fit. He's been a flop and needs shifting.
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Old 07-01-21, 08:08 PM   #2463
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Old 07-01-21, 08:14 PM   #2464
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Because he wasnít injury prone before. Muscle related injuries can be fixed by understanding why in the first place itís recurring. I donít understand why weíve not come to the bottom of it in his case. He obviously canít fix himself on his own and heís only 25.
Maybe they do understand it, but thereís no undoing the recurring damage caused by playing in Afcon 2019 the month after he ruptured an adductor tendon in the CL semi final?
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Old 07-01-21, 08:16 PM   #2465
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No brainer innit. Injured most of the time and meh when fit. He's been a flop and needs shifting.
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Old 07-01-21, 08:27 PM   #2466
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Fuck sake



But.....did anyone think he was going to be available for this one ?
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Old 07-01-21, 08:37 PM   #2467
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Maybe they do understand it, but thereís no undoing the recurring damage caused by playing in Afcon 2019 the month after he ruptured an adductor tendon in the CL semi final?

Heís entitled to go and play for his country. He can get a personal medical therapist with him if the club thinks he needs to so that he does the things that he should be doing to avoid injury.
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Old 07-01-21, 08:46 PM   #2468
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I think there's a chance its more mental with him, maybe the club is too big, the pressure is too much?
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Old 07-01-21, 08:54 PM   #2469
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Heís entitled to go and play for his country. He can get a personal medical therapist with him if the club thinks he needs to so that he does the things that he should be doing to avoid injury.


He shouldnít have been playing for anyone so soon after that injury, and heís been paying for it ever since. Iím not saying itís fault.

Iím sure the club medical team have been trying everything possible with him to try and prevent these recurring injuries. But yeah, personal medical therapist, maybe thatíll do it
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Old 07-01-21, 10:42 PM   #2470
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And the shame with Naby is heís going to go somewhere else and play regularly and become a world beater.
I can't think of a single ex-LFC player that applies to. Not even Rushie. Alonso was about the same, maybe even less of a player than he was at LFC.
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Old 07-01-21, 10:49 PM   #2471
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Surely Alonso counts. Won loads with Real and Bayern and was brilliant most of the time. He was inconsistent with us, as much as I loved him.
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Old 07-01-21, 10:50 PM   #2472
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Is this a new injury or just that he's not recovered from his existing injury?
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Old 07-01-21, 11:20 PM   #2473
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I can't think of a single ex-LFC player that applies to. Not even Rushie. Alonso was about the same, maybe even less of a player than he was at LFC.
Suarez was a worldie with us but he went next level at Barca - his numbers there were astounding
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Old 07-01-21, 11:28 PM   #2474
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Is this a new injury or just that he's not recovered from his existing injury?

Klopp said heís close to being back. So I guess itís an existing muscle issue.
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Old 08-01-21, 12:14 AM   #2475
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I think it's time to sell him now. He's clearly never going to get over his injury issues.

Is there a similar type of player out there we could look at?
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Old 08-01-21, 12:20 AM   #2476
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Old 08-01-21, 02:02 AM   #2477
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Old 08-01-21, 03:36 AM   #2478
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I think heís unlucky. I donít understand how the clubís medical staff canít get to the bottom of his injuries though and heís not the first one weíve transformed into a crock.
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Old 08-01-21, 10:14 AM   #2479
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Might as well sell him. Pains me to say it tbh but if we can find a taker - and I reckon Bundesliga clubs would be queuing up to sign him - we should sell. A drain on resources at this point.
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Old 08-01-21, 10:40 AM   #2480
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And the shame with Naby is heís going to go somewhere else and play regularly and become a world beater.
Lucky for us there's absolutely no chance of that, he's nowhere near being a world-beater fully fit.
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