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Old 08-08-20, 07:02 PM   #8801
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Wins Europa League - sacked. Wins Serie A - sacked.
Harsh business.
Hard not to win Serie A with a teams that's won the previous 8. He's not very good at handling big egos.
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Old 08-08-20, 07:47 PM   #8802
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Hard not to win Serie A with a teams that's won the previous 8. He's not very good at handling big egos.
Of course, but Juventus knew both these things when they gave him a 3 year contract. So has he essentially been sacked for not winning the Champions League in year 1?
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Old 08-08-20, 08:02 PM   #8803
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Of course, but Juventus knew both these things when they gave him a 3 year contract. So has he essentially been sacked for not winning the Champions League in year 1?
And only winning the league by a point and losing the Italian Cup.

Italy has always been a harsh environment on managers.
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Old 08-08-20, 08:09 PM   #8804
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Well it seems they a have appointed Pirlo as his replacement

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53709835
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Old 08-08-20, 08:09 PM   #8805
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And only winning the league by a point and losing the Italian Cup.

Italy has always been a harsh environment on managers.
I doubt winning the Coppa Italia final would have saved him. Sacking him if he hadn’t won the league I could get.
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Old 08-08-20, 08:56 PM   #8806
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I think it's fair to say that Scotland was a trailblazer in terms of empowerimg its super clubs and killing competition.

I used to chuckle at the sheer ridiculousness of the duopoly there. But now in Italy, Germany and France there are apex clubs on 5, 6, 9 leagues in a row. Spain is an equal embarrassment.

Then the next tiers down all over Europe are even worse.

Football in Europe is in a complete state.
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Old 08-08-20, 09:00 PM   #8807
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I think it's fair to say that Scotland was a trailblazer in terms of empowerimg its super clubs and killing competition.

I used to chuckle at the sheer ridiculousness of the duopoly there. But now in Italy, Germany and France there are apex clubs on 5, 6, 9 leagues in a row. Spain is an equal embarrassment.

Then the next tiers down all over Europe are even worse.

Football in Europe is in a complete state.
How did they do that? (that's not a challenge, I have no idea)
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Old 08-08-20, 09:12 PM   #8808
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How did they do that? (that's not a challenge, I have no idea)
It's just economics I suppose. But the league business model facilities it.
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Old 08-08-20, 09:44 PM   #8809
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It's just economics I suppose. But the league business model facilities it.
What about their business model facilitated it?

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Old 08-08-20, 10:42 PM   #8810
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What about their business model facilitated it?
The way the leagues are structured basically.

Contrast with American sports. The most capitalist country on earth has, somewhat ironically the most egalitarian sports leagues on the planet.

The way that revenue is shared and distributed, the draft system. It completely ensures that short term domination can never become a long term dynasty.

In Europe, success compounds success, more than ever. To the point where too many leagues are now just a procession.
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Old 09-08-20, 12:54 AM   #8811
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I was just having a look at some of the least varied leagues in Europe working down the UEFA coeffficient rank for the first 6 (and then Scotland).

Celtic or Rangers have won 50 of the 54 league titles since England won the world cup. The post war years to 1966 were positively diverse with 7 different winners in 20 seasons.

Portugal 4 different winners in the last 20 season but only 2 different winners in the last 18.
France 8 different winners in the last 20 years which is surprising given it includes 7 in a row for Lyon and 7 in 8 for PSG. Essentially any year not won by those two was a unique winner
4 different winners in Italy and 1 year no title. 1 unique winner 20 years ago but the last 9 for Juve.
Spain 4 unique winners but RM or Barca 15 of the last 16
Germany 5 different winners but Bayern 7 in a row
England, 6 different winners but even then 16 of them are MU, MC, or Chelsea.

Pretty grim
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Old 09-08-20, 01:05 PM   #8812
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Champions League qualifying 20/21 starts 18th / 19th August
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Old 10-08-20, 10:18 AM   #8813
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Looks like HMRC are clamping down on image rights in lieu of salary.


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Old 10-08-20, 10:32 AM   #8814
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Definitely something they should be tackling and such an easy win with the attitude people have to footballer incomes (even compared to other entertainment industry figures like actors and musicians) but still chickfeed compared to corporate tax shenanigans
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Old 10-08-20, 10:48 AM   #8815
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Seems like they are fairly slow on the uptake if they have only just realized this...
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Old 10-08-20, 10:48 AM   #8816
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Definitely something they should be tackling and such an easy win with the attitude people have to footballer incomes (even compared to other entertainment industry figures like actors and musicians) but still chickfeed compared to corporate tax shenanigans
No doubt the government can make a big deal about it so that it looks like they are doing something to tackle the rich and inequality etc without hurting themselves or any of their mates. ...not that I'm cynical at all
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Old 10-08-20, 11:40 AM   #8817
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How many City players?

Dont they all get paid their image rights offshore, by a third party?
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Old 11-08-20, 08:14 PM   #8818
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Macclesfield relegated because the football league are malicious unsporting fuckfaces.
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Old 11-08-20, 09:56 PM   #8819
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Sevilla through, wolves looked completely shot.

Without upsetting Fredo, hope they whip the mancs arse....
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Old 11-08-20, 10:08 PM   #8820
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Old 11-08-20, 11:35 PM   #8821
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He looks amazing, 32 year old brazilian, good back up. Starter even

His contract runs out in june...
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Old Yesterday, 08:31 PM   #8822
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Possibly a little premature but PSG
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Old Yesterday, 08:37 PM   #8823
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didn't realise this was on. watchin now
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Old Yesterday, 08:37 PM   #8824
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Old Yesterday, 08:38 PM   #8825
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Old Yesterday, 08:45 PM   #8827
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Old Yesterday, 08:50 PM   #8828
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just seen his 1st miss; must be on a barca retainer?
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just seen his 1st miss; must be on a barca retainer?
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shows what billions do for you, PSG chucked forward after forward at it; City will do the same........ Depressing going forward no FFP, so these richest will hoover up over the next few seasons.
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