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Really? Im sure Ayre said there would be no DOF, but more of a team structure around Rodgers. No?
Ayre said there would be a "continental" model, but Brendan implied that the new team of technical people - a technical board, would be at least at the same level as him, or even he would be the head of it. That's how it came across to me, and in my opinion is significantly different to what I broadly understand the "continental model to be" where the Manager has far less influence. Maybe they are playing with words, but I can't see there being much difference between having a single person (DoF) above the Manager, or a "technical board" above the Manager - either way the Manager has diminished responsibility so if Brendan is refusing to work under a DoF it's logical to conclude that he'd refuse to work under a technical board performing essentially the same function except with more people.
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Very impressive. Came across as decisive, knowledgeable, respectful, ambitious and humble.
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It's just my opinion really. He's not suited to playing on the right wing, no way which he has done over the last year for the reserves. I think he needs to be moved back to midfield but not the "hole". I would say slightly deeper as he is an amazing passer. He could be like Joe Allen or like Alonso alongside Lucas. I hope he gets a few opportunities next season - he is stilll very young and I think he could be a first team regular in a couple of years.
I don't know mate. Reading that article where Rodgers laid out his philosophy, and explained the types of players he saw in each role, he said the defensive midfielder had to be:

* Extremely comfourtable in possession, especially under pressure
* A good passer of the ball
* Good defensively

The other two central midfielders:

* Box to box midfielders with the stamina to get up and down the pitch
* Hard working to create 'triangles' with other players
* Good passers of the ball

So he doesn't really play with a Alonso-esq deep lying playmaker. It's more Lucas-esq, in that the player should be more mobile and better defensively. Basically, Busquets is the template. Suso doesn't really fit into either category, so he'd have to adapt his game somewhat in my opinion.

I think Sterling could make it as a wide player in his system though, as he pretty much matches what what Rodgers sets out word for word (or at least, potentially he does).
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Ayre said there would be a "continental" model, but Brendan implied that the new team of technical people - a technical board, would be at least at the same level as him, or even he would be the head of it. That's how it came across to me, and in my opinion is significantly different to what I broadly understand the "continental model to be" where the Manager has far less influence. Maybe they are playing with words, but I can't see there being much difference between having a single person (DoF) above the Manager, or a "technical board" above the Manager - either way the Manager has diminished responsibility so if Brendan is refusing to work under a DoF it's logical to conclude that he'd refuse to work under a technical board performing essentially the same function except with more people.


Thats what I understood from the Press Conference comments

Yet when you look at the statement from FSG it appears they want the continental model & structure in place

At best it creates a state of ambiguity at worse Brendans view is completely contrary to what FSG's view is
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It really should be removed, but I can't see a way to do it. Will have to check with someone with more powers.
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Old 01-06-12, 11:42 AM   #131
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I don't know mate. Reading that article where Rodgers laid out his philosophy, and explained the types of players he saw in each role, he said the defensive midfielder had to be:

* Extremely comfourtable in possession, especially under pressure
* A good passer of the ball
* Good defensively

The other two central midfielders:

* Box to box midfielders with the stamina to get up and down the pitch
* Hard working to create 'triangles' with other players
* Good passers of the ball

So he doesn't really play with a Alonso-esq deep lying playmaker. It's more Lucas-esq, in that the player should be more mobile and better defensively. Basically, Busquets is the template. Suso doesn't really fit into either category, so he'd have to adapt his game somewhat in my opinion.

I think Sterling could make it as a wide player in his system though, as he pretty much matches what what Rodgers sets out word for word (or at least, potentially he does).
Suso definitely more than meets most the bullet points above! Defensively he has definitely started to get stuck in more but I highly doubt he will ever be as good a tackler as Lucas or Alonso. I agree with your Lucas comment though.
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I don't know mate. Reading that article where Rodgers laid out his philosophy, and explained the types of players he saw in each role, he said the defensive midfielder had to be:

* Extremely comfourtable in possession, especially under pressure
* A good passer of the ball
* Good defensively

The other two central midfielders:

* Box to box midfielders with the stamina to get up and down the pitch
* Hard working to create 'triangles' with other players
* Good passers of the ball

So he doesn't really play with a Alonso-esq deep lying playmaker. It's more Lucas-esq, in that the player should be more mobile and better defensively. Basically, Busquets is the template. Suso doesn't really fit into either category, so he'd have to adapt his game somewhat in my opinion.

I think Sterling could make it as a wide player in his system though, as he pretty much matches what what Rodgers sets out word for word (or at least, potentially he does).


Sterling could play the same role as someone like Nathan Dyer imo
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I guess. Something about the way he said it made me think he'll want to bring a player or two from there.
Fair enough.. There is only really Allen and Vorm I'd take from them and that'd depend on Pepe.
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It turns out his nickname is Buck - true story.

I really believe Suso will now finally get a chance. If anyone has been listening to some of Bucks opinions of systems and players, Suso fits in perfectly more so than Raheem Sterling
I'd draft him in straight away. Get him started early and he could develop into our own Xavi.
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After reading about his football philosophies thanks to all the links posted this past week I've started to get excited about our new manager.
Watched his press conference in full at work (and still watching now) The man came across superbly well, and it was a shock to see him correct Ian Ayre - who looks like a rabbit in the headlights, and I think is still out of his depth in his current position within the club - about the DOF situation. Where was Henry today, I would have thought he'd have been there?

Anyway looking forward to seeing Brendan stamp his authority and tactics on our club and I'm pretty sure we'll be okay from now on.

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Fair enough.. There is only really Allen and Vorm I'd take from them and that'd depend on Pepe.
Pepe is perfect for Rodgers. He loves playing the sweeper keeper role. I remember apart from the last 2 years he was always bombing out to clear the ball.
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"I work best around a group of people. It's about a group of people when you come to a big club, you can't do it on your own.

"Of course there has to be leadership but, for me, if it was a sporting director or director of football, that was something I made quite clear that I couldn't work with.

"What you need at a football club is an outstanding recruitment team, an outstanding medical team, sports science team, player liaison. These are all people that will come into the group and then we will form as a football club a technical board, as most clubs do. There will be four or five people around that group who will decide the way forward."

Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre claims the club were happy to meet Rodgers' demands.

He said: "The structure really is to - Brendan is aware of this and it was part of that process of finding the person that fits - is a more continental director of football type structure, where you have got a collaborative group of people working around the football area.

"We don't envisage at this point of time having a director of football per se, but having a group of people who will work collaboratively with Brendan to deliver the football side of it."

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Sterling could play the same role as someone like Nathan Dyer imo
Sterling would be perfect in time. Obviously its a different level but we saw in that reserve game against Southend what damage he can do cutting inside. Most of his 5 goals were scored from coming inside and finishing in style. In Rodgers system the wing backs provide the natural width and the likes of Dyer and Sinclair cut inside and cause havoc, playing more like inside-forwards. Sterling looks very capable of doing this.
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Am hoping to get a good inside track over the weekend on Brendan Rodgers a mate of mine is good friends with one of the Swansea players. hoipefully can find out some info

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Suso definitely more than meets most the bullet points above! Defensively he has definitely started to get stuck in more but I highly doubt he will ever be as good a tackler as Lucas or Alonso. I agree with your Lucas comment though.
From what he said in that article, the defensive midfielder is pretty much the most important position in the whole team. That player is the heartbeat. If we have someone who is weak defensively, the system falls down. Will Suso ever be good enough defensively? Hopefully, but it's definitely an area he'll have to work on. Will he develop his stamina so that he can become an effective box to box player? That's more likely in my opinion.

Agree with Lec on the Dyer comparison with Sterling. He's far more likely to slot into Rodgers' system.

By the way, I reckon Hamann would have been a dream player in the system Rodgers plays. Would be perfect.
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Can't wait to watch this when I get home. Damn, this is an exciting time for LFC! If this works as well as it does in theory then we will be back amongst the elite where we belong
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Think we have to congratulate FSG and the people who advised them.

To a man, I don't think he was top on anyones list but they pbviously did there homework and he cuts a very impressive impression
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Pepe is perfect for Rodgers. He loves playing the sweeper keeper role. I remember apart from the last 2 years he was always bombing out to clear the ball.
I thinks so too.

That said, Pepe admitted today that he wanted Rafa to come back as LFC manager
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To a man, I don't think he was top on anyones list but they pbviously did there homework and he cuts a very impressive impression
I totally agree. There were a few people on here quite outspoken over the way FSG have handled this. In my opinion, they've done extremely well. And there's more to come as well, with the announcement of the technical team.
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I know I'm getting carried away but he just looks right! Who gives a fuck what Ayre said about continental this or that - he probably finds it awful and close to impossible to step outside commercial, corporate PR bollocks-talk. Rodgers set it out clearly - yes there will be a collaborative team to bring in players and drive the football philosophy throughout the club but he's the manager and that's that. He doesn't need some suited gimp to tell him how the team should play. He's already the anti-Roy.
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I thinks so too.

That said, Pepe admitted today that he wanted Rafa to come back as LFC manager
I think he'll leave this summer. You can tell he's not really bothered anymore his keeping has been below par for the past two seasons and I think he wants to go back to Spain, as he's been pretty vocal about Lfc probs in the past two summers. I'd love Vorm to replace him personally.
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The most alarming thing about this is that he's 11 days younger than me, so for the first time in my life the manager of LFC is my junior. I'm an old man and my life is over.
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I think he'll leave this summer. You can tell he's not really bothered anymore his keeping has been below par for the past two seasons and I think he wants to go back to Spain, as he's been pretty vocal about Lfc probs in the past two summers. I'd love Vorm to replace him personally.
I think this is exactly the appointment that will get his Mojo back. Brendan believes in the sweeper keeper, Rioy didn't and don't think kenny embraced it as muchas he could.....for Brendan its integral
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Year older than me, when i found that out a little piece of me died.
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